I'm studying economics in a mediocre euro university, I have no ambition and I just want a comfy, minimalistic life with a job that will leave me some time for myself.
I heard oil rig jobs required you to work six months per year, is it true? What's it like?
Owen Wood
It's great, they let me drink all the oil I want!
Christopher Cruz
Many people have quit because their life was at risk being of the negligence of their coworkers. You need to get a comfy job not roughnecking.
Ryan Reyes
>life at risk It's that bad?
>a comfy job Like what, though? I live in france so the opportunities aren't plentiful. Wish I could move, but that seems impossible.
Julian Long
It's labor intensive and they fire you or lay you off at the drop of a hat based on oil prices, which are unstable . It has very little crossover skills. My experience comes from living in Texas and watching the same cycle repeatedly with friends /family.
Jordan Jenkins
Yeah, that does sound pretty shitty. Too bad, I thought I had found something worthwhile. I don't know what else I could look into.
David Thompson
What about south west Switzerland (French speaking)? Jobs in abundance and great pay.
Austin Carter
I was in a similar position as yours. hated my degree and wanted to do something crazy like work at an oil rig.
Let me tell you how the story ends.
You end up as a NEET
Dominic Richardson
>Jobs in abundance If you're qualified, that is. Which I'm not and won't be. As I said, I'm not very ambitious, I don't care about the pay since I'm frugal anyways. >You end up as a NEET I want to move out as soon as possible, so that might not be an option. I don't want to do something crazy, just get a job that allows me to lead a comfy life. That shouldn't be too difficult, yet I can't find shit.
Ian Hernandez
Jimmy Carr worked on oilrigs when he left uni. Now he tells dead baby and rape jokes for a living.
Make of that what you will.
Adam White
You'll need some experience drilling on land before you can move offshore. If you can last a year as a roughneck you can survive any job/crew. The money is great but be prepared to say goodbye to your social life.
Matthew Myers
>be prepared to say goodbye to your social life. I don't have one.
But other anons in this thread said it wasn't worth it because of the conditions. Given that I've never really done any hard work I don't know what that entails and if I'd be able to deal with it.
Nolan Russell
You don`t need to be qualified, just speak one of their languages which you do. Pay starts at 20 Franks.
You said you were looking for a job "that will leave me some time for myself". That`s why I mentioned Switzerland. Working part time would be more than enough. I would do it myself if I didn`t have family here.
Wyatt Johnson
>You don`t need to be qualified What kind of jobs are we talking about, then? I thought Switzerland was only open to those who wanted to work in banking and finance. Would I be able to live there or will I have to stay in France? >if I didn't have family here Are you French?
Kevin Davis
>What kind of jobs? Production, warehouse, obviously you can work your way up. >Would I be able to live there or will I have to stay in France? You can live anywhere in the EU and work in Switzerland. Or move there. >Are you French? German
Samuel Young
That sounds deceptively easy. Can I really search for a low-level job there and live a comfortable, modest life just like that? If so, then I guess it's great. I'll definitely look into it. Why doesn't everyone do it, though?
Daniel Cox
>That sounds deceptively easy. The catch is the high cost of living. But if you`re living frugally and don`t have family, it shouldn`t affect you. >I'll definitely look into it. indeed.ch >Why doesn't everyone do it, though? I guess some people like their home too much, others don`t want to make much money, some don`t speak the language,...
Liam Flores
>if you`re living frugally and don`t have family Well, no girlfriend and no kids, yeah. And as long as I'm able to eat, afford a small studio, and occasionally buy weebshit then it's all good.
Thanks a bunch for the link.
>some people like their home too much Well, Switzerland is a pretty great country though, isn't it? In terms of the quality of life and such.
Ryder Baker
I know this has already been said, but let me leave this message for anyone thinking necking is an easy way to live life. I'm an oil field layoff. Not because I didn't perform, but because of fucking oil prices. No matter how hard you work, ultimately your success is determined by it, so it's not a sound career choice unless you're a petroleum engineer. To add to this, working on a rig is fucking dangerous and pretty much everyone on your crew is not going to give a shit about safety no matter how much a company claims they care. People still die more often than people think on rigs, and that doesn't include the guys who lose fingers/limbs or get permanent damage of any sort. The conditions are shit, and although the money may be okay, the company won't give a shit about you either.
tl;dr if you aren't a felon or white trash who can do no better, you aren't going to make it for one reason or the other.
Signed, An oklahoma layoff
Cameron Lee
Specifically what kind of dangerous conditions did you had to work in? What did the job consist of
Sebastian Morris
Thats not true for the french speaking parts of the country, it is completely full because everybody wants to go there especially for a junior. Plus Switzerland is trying its best to stop immigration, qualified or not.
Like many things (especially in France), it was really good at the time but now the contracts are not as advantageous as they were. Besides it has became very dangerous for french people to be in Africa. However it is still way above average salary.
Jack Long
Same sort of experience (Texas as well)
But if you can make it work for a year or two, and don't blow your money like an idiot...you can afford to go to school and not work at school after roughnecking.
Michael Murphy
The oil industry is in the shitter right now and it'll be impossible to get a job on one unless you already have a shitload of experience
Aiden Gutierrez
I'll also add that even when oil prices were high it's hard as fuck to get on an oil rig, it's mostly nepotism, you'd be better off going to bumfuck, north dakota
Camden Hall
I wasn't into all the anal sex End of the day I just wanted to rest I'm pretty progressive and liberal but come on leave me alone when I already told you a thousand times I'm straight
Asher Rogers
bump
Austin Lopez
>comfy, minimalistic life You'd hate the rigs. 12 hour shifts, too cold or too hot, exhausting, often repetitive manual labour, needing to stay sharp through all of this or shit could go sideways... and don't get me started on your coworkers. Minimalism is so far from most riggers' motivations that you'd basically have to be an outsider from day one to keep your values. And being an outsider is a bad idea in a group of people who have to trust each other with their lives.
>That bad? It's not a huge danger, I'd say soldiers on deployment and police in rough neighborhoods face more danger. So long as you follow the proper precautions, you're not actually likely to get injured, but keeping all the precautions in mind adds to the general stress.
>wat tho? Have you considered teaching? One of my comfiest gigs was teaching Chinese preschoolers English. Plus, you get almost as much time off, possibly more if you're a contract teacher.
That was never my experience (in Alberta). All I did was send out resumes to all the service companies and wait until someone no-showed. Of course, I had to quit my retail job with one day's notice. This was pre-2008 though, so I wouldn't be surprised to learn it's changed.
Ayden Kelly
I meant a comfy, minimal life outside of the job. Rigs seemed like a good deal because of the fact that roughnecks work six months per year; I didn't expect the job itself to be comfy.
>Have you considered teaching Well, I'm not very good with kids, but how was your experience with teaching? I guess I could look into it as well.
William Diaz
I've been thinking of becoming a electrician on a rig, working a few years and investing my saved income. Is there any companies that treat you better than others? And from what I hear you get feed like a king and as long as you keep your chin up you can make it out ok. Any thoughts on my idea?
Carson Harris
Any stories?
Eli Richardson
>teaching How do you get into that I thought everyone hated foreign english teachers in Asia
Samuel Martin
Lmao nooooo. Some 12 year old Bonglander has made like 50k or something silly helping slants come up with English names.
Jaxon Flores
I actually looked into this a while ago.
IIRC, you need NO skills to begin at the bottom. Training is all on the job. It's 12 hour workdays, and something like 8 days on, 4 days off. Pay's pretty good, but 12-hour workdays literally doing nothing but lubricating drills.
Thomas Bailey
Also, all the americans here are giving advice on ground-based oil stuff. You'd be applying for North Sea oil in europe, which is literally at fucking sea, then transferred back to land by helicopters that have a habit of crashing.
Kayden Scott
This is a REAL mans job, and you sound like a little bitch. By all means, come try it and waste your time.
Aaron Evans
>acting like a tough guy on the internet You sure showed me bud
Kayden Torres
North sea oil rigs have been laying off people left and right, getting a gig there is difficult unless you are an engineer or machine master
Parker Clark
If you're studying at university, you're not going to be working on an oil rig.
Trust me, I've tried the "tough guy" route and it didn't work out well.
Kevin Allen
What was your experience like
Ryder Lewis
this looks so comfy
Ayden Russell
>oil platforms >comfy
Jacob Lee
I was fresh out of high school and tried joining the military first. I passed all the physical tests, but the psychologists there said my mindset was too young and if I really wanted to join, I'd better wait a couple more years (I was 17 at that time).
After that I went with some HVAC technicians and assisted them working on a construction site for some months. I learned a lot and we had a good time, but ultimately decided this wasn't something I'd want a career in.
Now I'm in university and happier than I've ever been. Believe it or not, you're really going to miss the intellectual challenges an academic environment offers you.
Still I'm happy I've done all those things, I've got more general experience than my peers at uni, and I'm less of an arrogant douchebag than I was right out of high school.
Joshua Cox
>you're really going to miss the intellectual challenges an academic environment offers Not to sound like a dick but most academic environments don't offer a huge intellectual challenge outside of STEM.
Carson Allen
I am in STEM, I don't know about other fields. I thought Economics (like OP is studying) is alright as well?
Mason Robinson
music theory is just as complex as engineering
Lincoln Parker
Money is damn good and where I work it's 12 hour days, 3 weeks on and 3 weeks off. They fly you out to the rig on a chopper so it doesn't take too long. Work is hard, but the food is great, private rooms, private bathrooms, satellite television, internet, a game room with pool tables n shit.
Took home 150,000 last year after tax.
10/10 would recommend.
Caleb Rivera
That truly sounds like my dream job, especially the 3 week scheme how did you get that job ?
Jacob Miller
just put my name in at a job fair they were hosting. East coast of Canada. They provide all your required training such as your MED (Marine Emergency Duties), fire safety, whimis, H2S gas safety, marine survival, etc etc.
Literally went in with no training and worked my way up.
Michael Price
It's like you're not even trying
Levi Cooper
I have bad feet and can't stand or walk around for over four hours each day. Is there a place for me on a rig?
Lucas Foster
Probably not, it's physical work
Jaxon Jones
What are the activities that you do in the 12h period Any people that got seriously injured / died in your time there? How are the coworkers?
Hudson Roberts
You just need to work out the muscles on the top left of the foot and wear a shoe that fits or go barefoot as much as possible man. Fucking retard doctors telling people they're crippled because of muscles weaknesses. It's sad that i see so many people walking around in pain because their muscles are weak and unbalanced who believe they can never recover from it because the doctors told them so
Kevin Hall
Source?
I speak French (I'm Canadian but know "proper" French) so if you have more information, please let me know. I would absolutely love to live and work in Europe.
Levi Long
Is this actually true? I am skeptical about both sides of the claim ("just wear insoles" vs. "just go barefoot"). Have you personally healed your feet? I have been wearing minimalist shoes for several years and my condition isn't better or worse than when I used to wear orthopedic insoles.
Noah Clark
>Any people that got seriously injured / died in your time there?
Lol no. Safety is fucking crazy these days. This isn't China, this is Canada lol. You need to do a marine medical to ensure you're fit for work before you go out. If you're working at heights, you have a harness on 100% of the time, hard hat is on 100% of the time as well as safety glasses, safety boots, and gloves.
Anyone seen showing any kind of disregard to safety is sent home. So no, people don't die out here unless it's some kind of a freak accident.
Christopher Jenkins
as for activities, I do mostly maintenance and support work. If something needs greasing, I go grease it, if something needs oiling, I go oil it, if someone needs chemicals mixed, I go throw on my chemical suit and full face mask/respirator, and go mix it.
Co workers are all great people, of course with any job there is going to be at least one or two assholes, but thats true on any job site.
Jayden Smith
stories?
Daniel Nguyen
The reason they have those seemingly insane safety policies is because it is dangerous. If you're trying to say roughnecking or working on an offshore oil platform isn't relatively dangerous you're out of your mind.
Levi Flores
You said you worked in Canada, do you know if the environment is the same for European offshore platforms?
What would you say are the "requirements" for that kind of work? I'm not talking about the training, but one's character
Kevin Murphy
Go see a podiatrist. Seeing one right now. Got a collapsed arch as well. Work in WasteWater so im on my feet 6 hours a day. B4 they give u custom soles they recommend stiff shoes so they stablize your foot and to strech out your hamstrings. If you have tight hams your foot has to bend to compensate.
Adam Gonzalez
>immigrating to Switzerland
topkek
Caleb Taylor
absolutely. picked up running and after half a year my medical soles were useless
Julian Sanchez
Horseshit. I dropped out of university to become an electrician. I am very well read but I follow intellectual pursuits on my own time, I certainly don't miss the left-wing circle jerk that passes for an "academic environment" on campus.
Juan Bell
Already saw one when I was a kid. Wore insoles during my teens, never changed my feet or made the problem better. Started wearing minimalist shoes as an adult, feet haven't got better nor worse.
Matthew Clark
Are your feet physically different since you started running? Or they look the same, but you feel better regardless?
Oliver Sanders
Agreed.
Jaxson Cooper
You are a working class plebeian, no matter how much Dan Brown you read you dip
I bet you listened to fancy classical music on youtube and reflected on how sophisticated you are in the last week
Andrew Scott
Anybody know anything about seafaring?
Third-worlder here about to graduate with a degree in psychology. Like the sound of adding to research and working in the field.
Don't need to worry about me having soft hands. Things are a bit different here in the third world.
William Perry
If you havent done any hardwork (i.e. manual labour job) you may hate it for the first 6 months. After that depending on how much of an autistic skeleton you are you will adapt.
Bentley Reyes
Unemployed/underemployed humanities grad detected. I met a guy like you last month. He was applying to rent an apartment in my investment property, and kept insisting that he was only working as a grocery clerk until someone recognized the superior critical thinking abilities he gained while completing his masters in philosophy. I didn't care what he did to make money but I picked a different applicant because he was an irritating knob.
Leo Martinez
Thanks for the answers user, I will add this to my career path list if CS does not work out Enjoy the time off
Hudson Foster
If you dont mind long as fuck shifts and dont spend lots you can save up some pretty good money really quickly.
Adam Cox
Do you take a boat or helicopter to get out there?
Lucas Stewart
>I'm studying economics in a mediocre euro university
why the fuck would they need a fucking accountant on an oil rig? you would be underqualified and overqualified at the same time....
Joseph Martin
My husband is an R&D engineer for a large oil and gas company. Can confirm, it's not a great field if you want to stick around for long. Moreover, it's a boom industry which means when times are good they hire substandard engineers (as many as they can afford) who end up leeching and generally act like stupid, conformist, bigoted assholes. Toxic work environment and no job security.
Dominic Miller
Just check indeed.ch. I don't know if Switzerland is open fot non-EU workers thlugh.
Wyatt Rivera
Easy for EU citizens and OP is one.
Gavin Perry
I'm not sure why you all seem to think that only rig workers are required on offshore platforms. There are many different trades on these things. Electricians, scaffolders, welders, pipefitters, crane operators, power engineers, etc. The list goes on. The actual rig workers are only a small piece of the pie.
Your best bet is to get a trade and do that until you have some experience, then you'll know if you're cut out for this type of work. Plus, without experience you won't be put on an offshore rig, aside from some edge cases like the maritimer from earlier in the thread.
Jayden Reyes
bump
Joseph Wilson
He is right. The amount of doctors that tell people they are permanently fucked up when the issue is really imbalances/lack of muscles is just insane. Things like "yeah your back is bad you can't do X anymore" is very common. When the fix do that would be to do strength training to build the back up to a healthy point again. Makes people believe they are crippled when they aren't. Get in to lifting, work on hip mobility and tight hamstrings as the other user said, do some calf work and squats and deadlifts and you'll be fine. Hire a personal trainer aor see a physician that can help identity the weaknesses/imbalances/mobility problems. Or you can believe the problem is permanent and just watch it get worse over time.
How about fishing? On large boats they are 1 month on sea and 1 month off.
Noah Lopez
Fishing is a hard fucking job and I don't think OP has that sort of dedication. Same with roughnecking on a rig to be honest. Like someone else said, they hire all kinds of people on oil rigs, but right now your chances are pretty low unless you are an experienced skilled tradesman, which OP is not. If (and this is a very big if) the market for oil improves significantly we may go back to the days when any loser can earn a good living as a janitor or something on a rig, but right now I would say that OP is out of luck.
It's unfortunate really. Oil was arguably the last industry where a hardworking man could earn a respectable wage with nothing more than a strong back.
Christopher Bennett
>It's that bad? no fucking shit moron why do you think they're paying you so much? what do you think working on an oil rig entails for fucks sake?