/pdg/ - Payday: The Heist & Payday 2 General

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So uhh
When's new stuff?

right now

>he doesn't have Criminal Intent set as main menu song

YEAH

BABY YOU KNOW ABOUT THE AUTUMN

What's generally accepted to be the most useful akimbo weapon? I've been using the crosskills lately, and they're not too bad. I was using deagles before, and despite the low ammo count I really enjoyed being able to one-shot tans in the chest from across the map.

"Please let me die" - /pdg/

Akimbo p90's...if they existed

Akimbo Judges when?
Or Matevers.
Or Sweepers.

Akimbo Krinkovs.

11th for Lucky Clover aka best heister of the game

If the flamethrower left a trail/area on fire using gel, like they actually did when the military used them, would it be better?

Is using the Minigun with Low blow aced actually worth it or just another meme build ?

I miss the old Payday 2. Now I just use it as a mask designer.

Why do people have such an hard-on for the M308 ?

>just did Birth of Sky with a literal 12-year old on my team
help
H E L P

Meme to an extent, Body Expertise Ace and Surefire Ace is enough reliable damage. That, and it lets you actually give accuracy to the minigun.

just like people loved the deagle from few updates back, meta

- Hits the 181.6 breakpoint with pretty much any damage boost, which everyone has in today's Frenzied Berserker meta.
- Can reach 100 Accuracy / 100 Stability without silencer skills.
- Point and click most targets, they die in one shot, tasers die in two, dozers go down like Monica if you remove their face shield with HE and/or turn on the giggle switch.
- Decent mag size with the larger mag skill, and can still get away with 10-round mag because of how powerful and accurate it is.
- Not a DLC weapon and doesn't require DLC or even any mod drops to be amazing.
- Muh 7.62mm Real Fuckin' NATO.

It's basically the new CAR-4 after the Crimefest Unbalance dumpstered all ARs that weren't the M308 for a few months. Now they're only semi-trashcans.

>threeyearsofpaydaymemes.png

>m308 now meta weapon
>left it behind forever when sniper rifles came out
I just don't find it to be competitive with sniper rifles, especially when specials spawn by the dozen.
It's fun on OVK, I guess. And I'll always have PD:TH for M308 sharpshooting.

Personally, I'd rather use the AMR DMR over the M308.
However, the M308 does have that 10 round mag, which makes it appetizing for Lock 'n' Load Ace, but still has only 70 rounds anyway.

Is silenced shotgun build a meme?

Does it work well with dodge?

Is dodge even dw viable anymore?

sniper rifles lack all stability, i can never get/find mods

yes
shotguns don't need it
heck no

they don't need stability

Yes.

Sadly yes, hence the meme.

Yes, but you need to git gud.

Are safes supposed to drop only from multiplayer lobbies with at least two players? I must have done like 15-25 jewstores and I didn't find any.

It's probably not based on number of heists or probability at the end but more of a timer at some random point in the week.

Just do a couple heists a day and don't worry too much about it.

you only get like one a week

ehh, still want auto fire for close in situations were you dont have time for side arm

Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- Speedlock Holmes (slakt_1)
- Vlad Is Mad! (vlad_4_jobs)

Keep those helmets flying! ;)

>heck no

I literally just finished Hoxton Breakout DW as dodge/hostage taker.

Though someone was running frenzy anarchist so that may have helped.

Why would anyone not use AP rounds on Silenced Sentries*?
AP is just better in every way and Silenced Sentries actually survive.
*when available

I know, it's been a week since I last got one.

its annoying as fuck trying to put AP back on after reloading the sentry. I have to jump 20 feet back to keep myself from grabbing it again. Why cant we just keep it in AP state

For the same reason my laser sight turns off when exiting a vehicle.

>overkill
>fixing things

Theres a BLT at least for remembering gadget states

be the one to make the mod

I almost wish there was a second use button.
And, yeah, make sentries into silenced when the skill is bought, and use AP rounds when bought, but it'd still be nice to just have a button to repair and reload instantly rather than having to pickup and replace, though that's fine I guess...

>Why would anyone not use AP rounds on Silenced Sentries*?
Because they're stupid.

It's like maxing out the sentry's firing speed in MvM when you don't need to and it runs out of ammo faster despite not killing more robots over time.

Automated turrets and shit need a limiter on the firing speed so that they can not waste ammo. AP rounds are great not just because they pierce every fucking thing, but also so that 3 blues side-strafing the turret don't cost 40% ammo.

fun enough with just 2 people? I hate playing with randoms so I'm thinking about buying the game for someone

Yes. I usually play in a duo, as long as you don't totally hate the person you're with you can generally enjoy yourselves.

>Is silenced shotgun build a meme?
Yes, but it works surprisingly well.

>Does it work well with dodge?
Oh yes, very much so. I'm enjoying my meme build while looking AESTHETIC af. Adding 40+ dodge to an already disgusting 100+ armor under the effects of Frenzy feels so god damn wrong, but so incredibly satisfying.

>Is dodge even dw viable anymore?
Depends how conservative you are with cover. Nigga have I told you about Frenzy?

It's okay and enough to have fun. You might have some troubles on the highest difficulty although that's another story.

link to build?

>RIP HECTOR 2013-2015
What happened to him?

49th for safehouse customization hype

he died

Here it is from what I remember off the top of my head, should be a few points you can move around.

i.e. I only put a point in stable shot even though it's a shotgun build because I have extreme OCD when it comes to maintaining high numbers.

Not a very team (support) oriented build in the sense of providing deployables, but you can fight off an army of DW cops while acting half retarded.

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Pretty sure you will you not be able to customize anything other than random trophy room

he trusted the ICTV and Izhma 12G at the wrong moment.

Never tried the community custom heists, are they good ? Pic related.

M308 shits all over sniper rifles in DW.

DMR kits still get screwed on ammo pickup rate.

Last thing you would want with DMR rifles is to use the auto-fire feature, especially with dlc dmr kits, so the little clip is fine.

The number one argument for the M308 that totally make the dlc pointless is the fully loaded aced skill. When you have to choose between a comfy ammo pick up or a shitty one, the choice is quickly made.

Convinced 3 of my friends to get this with me.

Any mandatory DLC?

dlc unlocker

None of them are anything special, your pic related is literally just an edited version of Bank Heist with slightly more loot, one extra door you need to go through, and a gen sec truck in the parking lot. There are some recent ones that are completely unique, but they arent really that good compared to the vanilla heists (the fact that they exist however, excites me, because it means that modders are finding new ways to actually mod this game). They are still worth checking out in my opinion however, just to see for yourself what they're like, and just to change things up if they're just edited versions of normal heists.

>trying to get vac banned

Gage courier pack, everything else is skippable but that one gives you a lot of weapon mods.

>doing overdrill with randoms
>host seems cool, prestige 25 n shit
>some asshole fucks up the floor puzzle
>host kicks him
>host stands around doing nothing while I'm trying to get the remaining bags in the truck
>host leaves
>literally didn't even get a couple million for an hours worth of work
>mfw

>playing overdrill with pubbies,

Do you like to hurt yourself ?

well I can't do it alone, and I have no friends

I just like shooting cops. But the fact that I got no reward after all that makes me upset.

>you can now sell and buy FWB, Slaughter, Christmas and Goat safes

Holy shit

>M308 shits over sniper rifles in DW
I also dislike being able to deal with the fucking retarded amount of specials on DW, especially shields.
>muh HE judge
000 Judge kills everything in one hit and so does the R93. The M308 will never gain shield piercing so will never replace SR's for me.

>bunch of retards blowing up the lab after TWO bags
>"only white people can cook meth, you fucking apes"
>they stop picking up ingredients and let me do my fucking work
hallelujah

HE Judge for shield plinking, one shots cloakers, two shots Tasers which the sniper rifles do anyways (except the cumbersome and no-ammo Thanatos). And a bigger mag and much faster to kill dozers and regular cops.

>shitting on the HE judge

My point was with Overkill or Frenzerker the R93 kills everything (not dozers) in one headshot anyway, so you don't need a HE Judge. The M308 may also be able to kill everything in one headshot but shields spawn by the half-dozen on DW and you can't pierce them, then you'd need a HE judge.
M308+HE Judge is as useful as R93/Nugget/Plat+000 Judge but I prefer the latter because I've used SRs almost exclusively since they came out.

>vac

if I get the gage courier pack, do all my friends get to get those mods too if I'm hosting?

no.

I own hotline miami 2 but dont have the HM2 heist, what the fuck

XD

???

Steam ID?

>only 4 secondary shotguns
>12 pistols that are basically clones of eachother
>no pepperbox or double barrel break action secondary shoguns

Also, wtb Calico-brand weapons, a Six12 standalone, Primary weapons that cover secondary and primary slots (IE, Primary is AMR-16, Secondary is it's underbarrel grenade launcher mod), situational weapons as throwables (IE, quick-draw a modified HE Judge and fire a round), and the ability to equip a melee weapon so I don't need to hold down E to charge my melee and strafe with D because it's uncomfortable and is keeping me from using Specialist Knifes over Breaded Axe.

>trying to solo shadowraid DW
this was a mistake

>Implying Shadow Raid isn't easier solo.
>Implying difficulty matters on stealth.

Put thermite by the sewer entrance, burn through both bars down there, loot the warehouse. Easier than the yard and better loot.

>just tried that silenced shotgun anarchist suit meme build
Holy shit guys. This is pretty legit.

m8, I carry armor out solo.

fuck you all

Your build is very bad because you don't have inspire. This build with anarchist will give you 15 dodge, frenzy and a lot of armor. You also regenerate 10 armor when you damage something every 1.5 sec and if you headshot you get 25 armor every 2 secs. You'll also have inspire and doctor bags, which is good for team orientation. You'll also need to get a primary shotgun that is concealable and the judge with he rounds. The he rounds will kill shields easily. You'll need 3 or 4 in concealment. Alternatively, you could aim for 7 concealment but then you'll miss 1 precent of dodge and 3 precent to crit.


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>Customhud shitter.
>Can't even stealth Shadow Raid solo
Figures.

After 37 tries, and forgetting to use preplanning, I finally did it
I'm never touching this fucking heist ever again

but its literally the easiest shit though
its entry level stealth really

Does shock and awe basic work with anarchist?

What's a good mission to do for leveling? 31 here and I just want more skill points

Been spamming Ukranian job in stealth solo

>shadow raid,

Some of you guys are alright , don't stealth Big bank tomorrow

God help that shitter stealthing big bank if he thought Shadow Raid is hard.

Hoxton Breakout, Aftercuck, Bomb:dockyard: all on Overkill if pro version is not possible.

payday doesn't have vac

>trying to solo Beneath the Mountain DW

THIS was a mistake

>Ceiling turret blocks your progress.
>Cops start pushing hard from the other side.
>Bots wander into the path of the turret and get destroyed.
>3 Cloakers are moving in on you.
This game needs an option to quickly kill yourself like GTAO has.

>all drill perks
>still takes 3 minutes to drill TITAN safes

:/

>can trade weapon skins
>can't trade mask material

fffffuuuuuck

>can't open titan safes with the lockpick expert skill

Come on Overkill, Big Oil day one stealth is just boring as fuck.

inb4 suck it

>solo
>3 cloakers
looks like you made the mistake of playing with bots friend