Thoughts?

except the clio RS is quicker and handles better

172 or 182?

I had a 172 great cars, they show ALOT of faster cars up with their great handling capability and their power to weight ratio. My friend had a 182 and my old wrx used to struggle keeping up with that.

Remember to check for cambelt/diffuser pulley at that mileage. It has to be done or it WILL fail, should be done around 80k, 90k is pushing it don't buy it unless the pulley and belt has been done.

No since it runs on vagisil, take a look at the steering wheel

Go home americuck.
st is a class below the rs

They are great BUT what an user said is true, the car may be too tricky for a young dumbass. With assists it can drive itself...without it can be one of the quickest ways to get a streetlight inside your asshole.

I once was a friend of such a dumbass. Got a Clio Sport 172 at the tender age of 20 despite being an absolute brute of a driver ( he thought he was fucking god though). Only reason he didnt get kill is because daddy payed for top-notch Michelin Pilot rubber and the asshat never turned TC off so the car basically drove itself.

The TC on the 182 is the laziest TC system around, it literally does nothing.

Op, the 182 is an easy to drive car, the clutches aren't ridiculous and the steering is nice.

It's a 10 year old chavs car, expect MANY problems such as bushes, weeping shocks, general suspension faults.

Cam belt is 75k or 5 years, cam belt AND dephaser both need doing, as if your dephaser goes bad it's a cam belt off job.

Because of the shit way the inlet manifold is designed, the engine cover underneath it also acts as cam caps, you cannot take the top cover off willy nilly.

Timing belt jobs require more expensive specialist tools, if yours needs doing, go to a renault specialist, I wouldn't trust a normal garages with that job, there are a lot of horror stories out there.

Interior will rattle, deal with it.

The gearboxed are pretty bulletproof, don't expect many problems with the gears and synchros themselves.

I owned one, loved it, had about 90k miles, in 14 years it had 15 owners and that was my downfall, I bought a shitter. There are a lot of shitty examples, please take your time finding one so you don't regret having to get rid of it like me.

also liquid yellow best colour

I bought a 172 as my first car for $9k in 2008 (Australia). I still have it and it's still going really well. I've put roughly 130,000 km on it. It's got some quirks but nothing major.

Some issues I've encountered:

> Cracked battery tray. One of the gearbox mounts is attached to this, so pretty important to make sure it's all OK.
> Driver's side CV boot always ripping. There's a sharp corner on the bottom of the block which I needed to file off
> All of the bushes and mounts. All of them.
> Rattles everywhere
> Thumb grips on the steering wheel
> Awful, awful texture to radio/AC/that whole area
> Washer bottle leak
> Wiper mechanism snapped on the drivers side.
> Driver's seat has started to rip, but I'm a big cunt so I was expecting that.

Most have been simple fixes. They're a lot of fun.

Two more things:

> Aux belt tensioner went a few months ago. Changed it in the driveway over a weekend.
> Rear passenger shock shat itself. Really simple fix.

Because these cars are quite rare here their owners tend to be pretty good (not me). I imagine the clios over there would be like our commodores here. P plater shitboxes driven by fuckwits.

Lads, op here.

Thx for all the input.It's been great. It is going to be my first car though I've been driving for some time my mum's car.

I thought about about the clio sport because it seems like a really fun little car that's quite cheap.

I've also considered the focus svt. Thoughts?

Same poster from earlier.

I owned two of these cars. The original 172 and the 182.

It's a stretch yeah, but you can't say those cars aren't sportscars. Everything about them is performance oriented. If they're not as fast as an M3, sure, but they're faster then a lot of other cars out there.

They're fun to drive, they go around bend like go karts tripoding if you really drive them like you stole them.

However, if you don't fuck up with the suspension, and I'd seriously recommend not doing so if the car is to be used regularly on the road, they are a lot tail happy with slight oversteering tendencies which can be very helpful in turns but in the wrong hands, especially in the hands of a 21 one year old, usually pumped up with testosterone and eager to impress friends, it's something that very easily will end up badly. They're not balanced, pretty much all the weight is up front and it's pretty much like driving a pendulum.

They're seriously not cars for someone lacking real experience. Sure they only go as fast as you press the pedal, he may be responsible, whatever. Experience says, most of them on his age interval seriously lack brains.

He sure can get it, it's his money. Should I get it, again, if he hasn't even driven a mildly powered car, did some skids, etc, he shouldn't.

Do you really think a 21y old with his dick jumping in his trousers will have the funds or the patience to upkeep a Clio like the book says?

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Who will be paying for gas, parts and maintenance OP?