/sthg/ - Sonic the Hedgehog General

Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General. Let's talk about Sonic games, old and new, and the entire franchise including animation and comics. Share art, music, talk about new developments, discuss ROM hacks, speedrunning, etc.

/sthg/ - #519 - Tired Johnny Edition

>Link CompilationDrawfag/Writefag Idea WallsNews/DevelopmentsRecent Releases

Other urls found in this thread:

youtu.be/oSB_APVzwyY?t=7m38s
myredditvideos.com/
twitter.com/SFWRedditGifs

Sleep tight Johnny

Post your face when Mania.

>Only have stories about the game cast

How about you fuck off with your Archie hateboner?

>tfw he's almost 50

>This fucking "comics should be 1:1" guy
Fuck me

He's still mostly got it

...

wake up johnny

>Taxman
>Stealth
>Tee Lopes

Like the other user said before, this was originally a series based on the SaTam series.
While you'd have a point in saying "It's not like that anymore though, and the reboot could have done away with them and made this a much more game focused series, the FF's are from a bygone age and ignored outside the comics", and that's a decent point and a fair view, a lot of people buy the comics because of the extended cast.

Personally I believe that the FF's and Eggman's Eggbosses are the base of the whole thing. We're having a lost world arc, and realistically you have that as just the game characters that appeared and we're down to a pretty shitty story with 5 likable characters and 5 fucking abysmal ones. Like in the Unleashed arc, the FF's and Eggbosses are there to have as a background good and bad team. Sonic will still become Super and beat Eggman at the end, it's not like the old days where the fucking Skunk comes over and becomes best character because muh OC.

...

Though depending on who's sound director, this might more accurately be my fave when Project 2017.

Dragging bait into a new thread.

Fucking awesome, guess I'll tab out for another three hours.

You'll still have your FFs, they just won't be important

>they just won't be important

Just like your existence, amirite?

I doubt it'll last 30 minutes

You seem upset. You can have your non game characters, they just won't overshadow the important ones anymore

Why is this allowed in a children's japanese cartoon?

I can't believe this is just the beginning of the fun.

>Sonic Mania taking the best parts of the Classics
>This could mean Tails and Knuckles will have Super forms like 3&K
>Speculation on a secret character being Classic Amy
>Super Amy

I know deep down that Iizuka will kill this dream.

Have super forms been confirmed?

Without the Super Emeralds, I doubt we'll ever see the Hyper forms (or Super Tails) ever again. Iizuka or not, they were never intended to be anything more than a one-time combination bonus.

Japan is full of wonderful people.

Gamexplain did an analysis video with the footage seen so far and apparently spotted a large ring: youtu.be/oSB_APVzwyY?t=7m38s

>Emeralds and Super Forms

Fuck that. I want to cut to the chase and not spend five minutes per attempt for something so needless. No super forms and no emerald special stages.

What if Mania is releasing in the spring so that later next year we can get Mania &Knuckles?

>Fuck that. I want to cut to the chase and not spend five minutes per attempt for something so needless. No super forms and no emerald special stages.
Speaking of cutting to the chase, I hope the story's like 1 and 2 in that it's not present in the game outside of the ending, as it should be

>let's cut out something completely optional that reward the player with game breaking powers

>all this shit taste

I'd like it to be like S3&K personally.
I liked the 5 - 10 second cutscenes that'd play out in the game. The manual told you the backstory and the short cutscenes told you how it was progressing.
Makes it feel more connected over Sonic 1 and 2's "You're in a chemical plant, then Casino, now in a mountain range kinda thing. You just walked there". I don't mind that but if I had the choice.

Gimme Super Amy Goddess form, please.

let's cut bosses as well while we're at it

too videogamey

>Wanting a convoluted bullshit story to get in the way of gameplay
Why though
If there HAS to be a story, then have it be like 3&K, but there really shouldn't have to be one. It's Sonic the Hedgehog, you shouldn't need an explanation as to why you're going to all these weird and colorful level
Fuck you, bosses are one of the best parts of any game and one of the most memorable parts of the classics

...

>It's Sonic the Hedgehog, you shouldn't need an explanation as to why you're going to all these weird and colorful level
But Sonic has always had story. The vast majority video games have, even since arcades.

What if the light blue character is Cuisine's Sonikko?

Yeah, but it was mostly in the manual and that's the best way to do it. Though since it's apparently a digital game, have it in a digital "manual" so we can have uninterrupted gameplay

I suppose we should get rid of the title screen and the screens showing the zone name and act as well then, since they're just interrupting gameplay.

I don't think it needs to be complex but I think people appreciate when a bit of thought went into the "Why".
3 and Knuckles just had "The Death Egg Returns, and Knuckles is the resident of the Angel Island and is working with Eggman to stop you!" Which gave us the plot set-up and wasn't complicated and gave us a reason to play.
S1 had an even simpler "Eggman captured all of your friends!"

I think a small non-speaking cut-scene before the gameplay, transitions between levels and small bits here and there wouldn't go amiss in a retro game like this.

I don't think it should be "Sonic and friends beat Eggman up because he is there", that's just kinda lazy. Have Eggman create an even bigger Death Egg and THAT's why you're traversing huge lands to stop him or something.
I don't think it's going to be overcomplicated, it's a retro Saturn esque game, you can't fit 06 tier of plot into it.

No, those can stay because those are staples of the classic games, and most Sonic games in general. It seems like the idea of Sonic without a story bothers you, but the best Sonic games have minimal story. Even 3&K, which had a bigger story than most of the classic games, still had a barebones one. It doesn't need a story to be goo

It doesn't need a story to be good, but having a story doesn't make it worse, which is what you're saying. That's what I'm disagreeing with. I'm in favor of Mania having its story shown through S3&K style cutscenes.

Also it has a story, that's already been confirmed. It'd be strange for it not to anyway.

Johnny is such a gift

Japan

>Also it has a story, that's already been confirmed. It'd be strange for it not to anyway.
If it should, then either have it be presented 3&K style or stick it in a digital manual. Same goes for Project 2017. Sadly Project 2017 looks to be edgy tryhard shit, the same kind that made Sonic look like a joke

all this talk between the classic and adventure fans make sort of glad lost world failed, we didn't need a fourth group in this mix.

btw are there any people who prefer the boost games and want the games to stay that way. I'm sure their around but haven't heard from on here.

The evil mad scientist Dr. Eggman is up to his old nasty tricks again. "Sonic…that annoying, impertinent hedgehog. Thanks to him, my great plans are always laid to waste! Oh, but this time, I'm going to rub him out with the power of science! Ha ha ha ha ha…"

South Island is a treasure trove of gems and ancient ruins. They say that it's the island where the mystical Chaos Emeralds lie. The Chaos Emeralds are a super-material that give energy to all living beings. Also, when applied to scientific purposes, they can be used for nuclear and laser based weaponry. However, nobody knows exactly how to get ahold of these emeralds. At the same time, though, they do say that the reason why South Island is always moving is because the emeralds are somewhere inside the island's hazy depths.

One day, crisis visited upon the island. And who showed up with it but Dr. Eggman and his cronies. "I'll find those emeralds even if I have to dig up the entire island to do it!"

Dr. Eggman set up a fort in one corner of the island, and went about carrying out his plan.

"Eggman, you still haven't had enough?" Sonic hurried as soon as he heard the news. Dr. Eggman never seemed to leave him alone, even though Sonic had beaten him every time so far. It sounded like Dr. Eggman considered Sonic his sworn enemy, but he was never any match for Sonic.

However, this time something is amiss.

"Have you seen it, Sonic? This time is going to be different! Because this time, I've turned all the animals on the island into robots!"

"E, Everybody!?"

"All of them go about in accordance to my orders. In other words, Sonic, everyone on the island is your enemy! Gya— Ha ha ha ha ha ha ^cough^ ^ack^ ^ahem^. This time, the world really will be all mine!"

This is terrible! Hurry! Sonic the Hedgehog - everyone is waiting for your help!

>tfw Iizuka confirmed only male hedgehogs can go Super.

This is bullshit that I refuse to acknowledge, ROBOTS can go Super for fuck sake.

Small and beautiful star, Little Planet. This star appears over a huge lake, called Never Lake, for only one month of the entire year.

The star, which was also called the Miracle Planet, was a place where the wonderful "Time Stones", that commanded Time, lay dormant.

An event in which the Time Stones caused a miracle to occur, was when it would transform the polluted water, and the surrounding desert around it, into a beautiful lake.

The evil scientist, Dr. Eggman, kept a close watch on it. "The star, Little Planet, where the Time Stones sleep, is suitable for my fortress!"

Little Planet was soon chained over Never Lake, and he began to build a huge fortress. After finding all of the Time Stones, Time flowed freely, and he set forth to attain his world conquest.

Although Sonic, who knew nothing of this plan, was on his way to Never Lake to watch the planet.

"What? Sonic? Coming here? How convenient."

Dr. Eggman heard of of his coming, and had a sparkle in his eye as he wore a fearless smile.

Sonic ran up, and saw the Little Planet attached by a chain, to a rock, and became very upset. He looked at the rock, and saw Dr. Eggman's face, inevitably, in the slope.

"That's Eggman!"

"This time, I will destroy what stops my plans..! And, with the Time Stones, I can conquer the world! Ho, Ho, Ho."

A blue sparkle of light, waited, hidden among the shadows behind Dr. Eggman as he laughed loudly

Although it was Sonic who had destroyed Dr. Eggman's ambitions easily, can the Little Planet be freed?

"OK! As long as I have courage, I can do anything!"

>classic fans
>adventure fans
>boost fans

I just like Sonic, man.

>edgy tryhard shit
>Sonic looking angry at Egg mechs tearing through a city
>runs through and Classic Sonic jumps in with a face full of glee

If you say "THE DARKEST OF TIMES" means we're going to get literal Shadow the Hedgehog tier you're retarded, it's just one of those sub-headlines you put on things to make the situation appear more serious.

Sonic Adventure 1 had more destruction and more of an urgency to be serious than this minute long trailer, and you can hardly call it edgy.

Also at what point do you think Whitehead and Sega are going to try shoving awful fucking writing and deep plots into a Genesis inspired Cd lookalike on Saturn-esque hardware?

You're trying way too hard at this point.

>I just like Sonic, man.
No you're not allowed to like all Sonic, you have to choose one type over the other reeeeeeeeeeee

>edgy tryhard shit
Mmm, I love the smell of buzzwords in the morning.

Sonic running around in a city getting destroyed by giant Eggman robots is no more edgy than Scrap Brain Zone. Especially since he and Classic both looked hype to wreck some shit at the end. The only thing remotely "edgy" in it was Sonic being angry at the beginning, and that's only a problem if you're one of those people who thinks Sonic can't display negative emotions.

the people who prefer the early 3d era have made thier opinions on the ''classicjerk'' clear.

same

I only like the Sonic porn, is that ok?

>implying classicfags haven't been shitposting on adventurefags just as hard

All y'all need to simmer down.

tbf the classicfags are in position of liking the unpcoming games

>Also at what point do you think Whitehead and Sega are going to try shoving awful fucking writing and deep plots into a Genesis inspired Cd lookalike on Saturn-esque hardware?
Hopefully never, which is why I'm confident in Mania

2017's trailer with the city on fire, the whole "Join the resistance" and "darkest of times" shit is going back into retarded territory. It's going to try and tell an "epic" story and fail because you can't tell that kind of story with Sonic.
Unlike Scrap Brain this will have fucking cutscenes and HD graphics so it can look "Darker" and more "mature" and that's not Sonic at all. Sonic is supposed to be silly, lighthearted, and goofy.

...

I'l allow it.

Floating along the spring-like South Pacific, the tiny island not found on any map, Cocoa Island... the beautiful island resting atop coral reefs, said to be home to sleeping Chaos Emeralds since ancient times.

It is on this island that Tails lives. This story from here, occurs before Tails met Sonic...

Tails' real name is Miles Prower, and the two-tailed fox has a research lab on the south side of this island called Tails House. Every day at this lab is the same for Tails.

One day, when Tails was enjoying an afternoon nap under the shade of the forest near Tails House. The green of the forest punctuated by flashes from the sun, the flutter and chirping of the birds, Tails felt very nice by the forest. However...

Dokaan!! The sound of an explosion suddenly echoed through the forest!!

'Ah! What was that?!!' Tails tossed and flurried out of half-sleep.

'Tails! Tails! Big trouble!' a small Flicky bird shouted to Tails. 'Tails! The Battlecook army has arrived at this island!'

'Battlewhat!?' Tails didn't understand a thing.

'It's Battlecook! The Dictator Great Battlecook's Imperial Army!!'

'Grate Batl Kook? Impryal Armie???

'Great BattleCook is looking for Chaos Emeralds to take over the world!'

'What!?'

I'm going to wait until we have more information, but feel free to judge the entire game off of the minimal amount of information we have. But please try to keep in mind that your opinions of what Sonic is "supposed to be" may not line up with what most fans think, what SEGA thinks, or what the original development team thought.

Suddenly before Tails dumbfounded eyes, one after another the trees of the forest were mowed down, and the silhouette of a giant mecha appeared in the flames. It was true. Scheming to take over the world, Great Battlecook the 15th had lead a massive battalion to Cocoa Island in order to gain the hidden powers of the Chaos Emeralds.

'Finally, finally I've found it! Kokoko..koke-!! With the Chaos Emeralds, world conquest will come naturally! Ok, move out on the double! Bring me the one remaining Chaos Emerald! Kokokokokoke-!!'

The forest, the mountains, everywhere you looked the entire island had gone up in flames. Truly, Cocoa Island is in a big pinch! To stand up to the threat on this island, there is only Tails. Mustering up all his courage, can Tails smash the terrible ambition of Great Battlecook? Can he rescue Cocoa Island from this peril?!

Up til now Tails has no experience, this will certainly be the start of his first great adventure....!!

I'm surprised at "Join the Resistance", but "The Darkest of Times" is kind of one of those throwaway selling slogan things.

Also, did you miss the part where Classic Sonic came in with his goofy ass smile and pose and Modern Sonic flashes him a good ol thumbs up mid jump.
Sonic Adventure was a pretty epic story.
However, all that being said, you're basing this off a minute long pre-rendered trailer meant to sell the game. Of course it's going to look cool and have a sense of urgency in it.

IF - and I doubt it - it has an uber serious story with too much ambition and super serious characters being edgy, then fine, but it's not too fair to call a game an "Edgy tryhard dark mature fest" because of the tone of one trailer.

For all we know this could be the final level and the rest of the levels could be fucking sweet mountains and funfairs.

Along the way of one of his impulsive adventures, Sonic suddenly discovered the island. It was a small island, with pleasant green fields of grass spread throughout it.

"All right, it's time to take a little break." he said.

Drawing an arc of white exhaust, Sonic slid his favorite plane, the Tornado, down toward the island's silhouette…and almost as if it were following him, a shiny little figure came down and suspiciously disappeared on the other side of the island.

--The Legend of West Side Island--
They say that a very long time ago, the people of this island used mysterious stones to advance their civilization, and they achieved great prosperity. However, when those people people tried to use the stones in the wrong way, their prosperity vanished overnight. After that, they say that the gods sealed the stones away somewhere on the island.

One day, not long after Sonic had been on the island, Sonic noticed something tagging along to his rear. He turned around to see a little fox. When the fox realized he had been seen, he scurried into the shadows under the palm trees. But when Sonic turned and ran off, the fox followed behind him as fast as he could.

After a while, Sonic said "Well, he can do whatever he wants." and left it at that, not taking particular interest in whatever it was the fox was doing.

>emerald gathering is just as important as bosses

No, you. Sonic 1 had it basically as a bullshit earned " good ending". Sonic 2 was the same except you could get all the emeralds if you were good enough before Chemical Plant and blaze through the rest of the game. Sonic 3 by itself again showed that you got the good ending with a thumbs up Super Sonic. Even S3&K still gave you Doomsday Zone if you collected at least the original set of emeralds. What I'm saying is, if you're going to make super forms, emerald stages, and "true endings", make the payoff worthwhile.

"Miles Prower" was the fox's name. Miles actually had two tails, which is why the animals on the island all called him "Tails". They teased him a lot because of those two tails. But when he saw Sonic come to the island, he changed.

"I want to be cool, too!" he resolved. After that, he started tagging along behind Sonic for all hours of the day.

Then came that one early afternoon. Miles found a beautiful aeroplane down at the beach. Miles loved all sorts of machines and vehicles, and he practically tripped over himself running towards the plane.

That slim fuselage, and those wings that could cut like a knife! Fascinated by this beautiful craft, Miles ran around to see the other side, and there he stopped dead in his tracks. Sonic was taking a nap under the wing. Miles turned right around and went back to the other side of the plane, and then it happened…

A flash shown off in the woods.

Then came an enormous explosion, and up rose a pillar of fire after it. Shards of rock and pieces of tree came showering down from the sky. Miles, who had narrowly escaped being blown away by crawling under the plane, opened his eyes. Reflected in them was the the red of the burning forest, and robots digging at the ground as though they were looking for something. Miles couldn't figure out what was happening.

The explosions continued ceaselessly, and the island was blanketed in flames. Miles was at a loss as he looked on, but then he felt the presence of someone standing next to him. He looked over, and there was Sonic glaring at the burnt up forest. "Eggman, you !" mumbled Sonic as he kicked up some sand and ran off into the forest. Something had started, something truly incredible. This was the hunch Miles had as he reflexively took off in the same direction as Sonic.

>Also, did you miss the part where Classic Sonic came in with his goofy ass smile and pose and Modern Sonic flashes him a good ol thumbs up mid jump.
Which was the best part. Gives me a bit of hope they won't make the story dark and serious but instead lighthearted and goofy as any Sonic story (If it has to have one) should be

Okay, we fucking get it. Stop posting manuals you found on Sonic Retro.

I just realized that Amy has the power to turn Invisible and it will never be explored again because it was in a shit game

Imagine how interesting that would work in tandem with like rouge or something

"Uwa—Ha Ha Ha Ha!!"

From the forest echoed that all too familiar vulgar laugh. It's him - the one and only Dr. Eggman.

"I've found it at last! The place where the Chaos Emeralds sleep! Following Sonic worked out perfectly! Now I should be able to finish my ultimate weapon: The Death Egg! I"ll be waiting for you, Sonic! This time, my friend, this time I will beat you, and all the Emeralds will be mine! Then I shall be the conqueror of the entire world! Gya— Ha Ha Ha Ha!"

The stage is set. Now it's time for you to bring the curtain to a close on this adventure once and for all!

In his Sonic The Hedgehog 2, Sonic destroyed Dr. Eggman's base, the Death Egg; now the debris has started its fall to Earth. And right in the path of the falling base floats a giant cloud-like mass. The giant shadow of Death Egg hides the cloud... Towering mountains, a gigantic forest... the cloud is none other than the legendary floating island, suspended in the sky.

The Death Egg became a fireball and hit the floating island; mountains were destroyed, the forests decimated...

This disastrous event greatly alters the island's path, forcing it towards the Earth.

The island crashes into the sea surface. The impact creates a gigantic wave, but the island doesn't sink. The floating island now sits on the sea surface as if nothing happened.

Many days pass...

I like both classic and adventure games.

It's boost that I despise

Seriously, fucking stop.

>this game was so tryhard edgy it made the fanbase regress into infantilism as a counteraction

it's honestly pretty impressive

On an island far from where the floating island hit the sea surface, Tails, a two-tailed fox, read a strong Chaos Emerald reaction on the Jewel Reader, a machine he has developed.

"Maybe this has something to do with that big wave I saw a few days ago..." he said.

Thinking there may be trouble, he decided to consult with Sonic.

At the same moment, while relaxing on the beach, Sonic found a small ring washed up on shore. Sonic looked at the ring carefully, and noticed some ancient characters carved on it.

The ring reminded Sonic of a legend he once heard about a "mystery island."

In an ancient time, the "mystery island" was part of the main continent. A people with an extraordinary culture inhabited it. That civilization had built a peaceful and happy society using the energy of something they called "The Mighty Stone". But at a certain point, a faction of dark-minded elders tried to steal the energy of the stone, and by accident made that energy explode.

The civilization was wiped out in a second, erased from history. Time passed, and a god descended from the sky to the newly created "mystery island". The sky god restored part of the civilization to the island, and threw the "Mighty Stone" into the open sky...

A ring washed up on the shore - the legend of the "mystery island" - Sonic, feeling his excitement build, made his preparations for another adventure.

Cream needs more love.

I started with the classic era but i like all three, although Boost is my least favourite.

Why is this an issue in the first place? Of course there's a story, be it shown in the manual or implications in the gameplay and levels. No one complained then so why complain now?

Dr. Eggman, who managed to escape from the Death Egg before it fell, had heard that Chaos Emeralds are supposedly buried on the floating island. From the crevice created by the fall of the base, a massive presence of Chaos Emeralds is detected.

"If their energy could be utilized", Dr. Eggman thought, "the Death Egg may be able to fly into orbit again."

Dr. Eggman then quickly built a base on the floating island to harvest the Emeralds. He kidnapped animals and transformed them into robots, and changed the island's environment into a nightmare with his new Environment-Control Machine.

"Yes! Even if Sonic comes to the island, it will be too late! This time the Emeralds are mine!".

The actors and the stage are now ready; here starts Sonic the Hedgehog's newest adventure.

That day, as he always seemed to, he was making his patrol around the alter on the island. Protecting the 7 Chaos Emeralds who sleep and control the power of the "Pillar" is the mission he has been charged with.

His name, Knuckles the Echidna. But to inhabitants of the island, he is an echidna called "Knuckle." Born and raised on the island, all of nature and the animals who live in it are his friends. And that which protects his friends is none other than the Chaos Emerald's crystaline "Pillar."

Suddenly something awoke.

Just as he was verifying that that not one Chaos Emerald was out of place, the Chaos Emerald right before his eyes rose and a strange vibration started.

Knuckles was confused by this phenomenon, which had never occurred before. In the blink of an eye, violent shaking occurred within the Chaos Emeralds. Then, as the shaking reached its climax, a "kiiiin" sound was heard along with a brilliant flash. The next thing Knuckles remembered was his own body, seeming to be lightly floating, and at that moment he was interrupted.

Too much good news; we have to find things to complain about. The Sonic fanbase isn't allowed to be happy. It's a universal constant apparently.

I think it should be cartoony but nothing wrong with a bit of seriousness to help the plot come along and have a good reason for fighting Eggman.
Like, Sonic Unleashed was a pretty corny story but Eggman still blew up the goddamn Earth.
Sonic Heroes was corny but had the Metal Sonic twist with his pretty creepy "THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE" and "I AM THE ORIGINAL" shit.
Adventure 1 is also hilarious and kinda lighthearted but also had Eggman launch a nuke at a city and Chaos flood everything.
ALL'S WELL THAT ENDS WELL

I get you don't want Sonic to go back to 'trying to create an epic story' because it's cartoon animals and S1-3k worked fine with minimal, but a simple story can still have a sense of urgency and character interaction, even cut-scenes and character development.

Same. Although I'm okay with Rush and Advance

Stop with the goddamn manuals.

Yup, there was a ring for the special stage in the demo, but it was just the sprite.

When Knuckles regained consciousness, he found his body thrown outside of the altar. He slowly go up, and what entered his eyes as he looked around was the Chaos Emerald altar--partially destroyed. In a flurry, Knuckles flew into the altar. However, in place of the emerald that should have been there, were fragments left of what had disappeared...

In a daze, Knuckles left the altar. He gazed off into the distance, powerless... it seemed like a peculiar thing had appeared around the lake. The sight of the giant, round, egg-like body that Knuckles beheld sent a shiver down his spine.

"That big egg is the dragon in the legend's...."

That egg appeared in the legend depicted in the Chaos Emerald altar--there was no doubt that it was the egg which would bring disaster to the island.

Some days later, Knuckles was patrolling the altar of the island's seven Chaos Emeralds, but all traces of the Emeralds had vanished. While in his relentless investigation of the island, Knuckles encountered an unfamiliar man in the woods.

The man called himself Dr. Eggman, and already knew Knuckles was the guardian of the Chaos Emeralds. He said to Knuckles:

"I am a scientist who came here to stop (?) that egg. Uumu, since you are the Chaos Emeralds' guardian I knew I had to inform you. The truth is, there is an evil hedgehog named Sonic that has been interfering in my research, he is the one who has stolen this island's Chaos Emeralds."

"The Chaos Emeralds were stolen....!"

With Dr. Eggman's ingenious lies, Knuckles was very easily tricked. That is how Knuckles' challenge to Sonic was started.

>Spamming manuals
It's time to stop
It also helped prove why the franchise should never have serious stories, or voice acting for that matter
>I get you don't want Sonic to go back to 'trying to create an epic story' because it's cartoon animals and S1-3k worked fine with minimal, but a simple story can still have a sense of urgency and character interaction, even cut-scenes and character development.
At most story should be like 3&K. No voiced cutscenes, just an excuse to go from level to level
Unleashed and Adventure went too far with the whole end of the world and angry god shit. You don't need that. Eggman doesn't need to try and nuke a city. That's way too dark

>Eggman nuking a city is too dark
You're right. He should go back to lighting islands on fire with flamethrowers and bombs.

It wasn't really that dark in execution. Go back and play through Adventure and I can almost guarantee it won't seem as "edgy tryhard" as you're making it seem. It's just standard Saturday morning cartoon storytelling.

The nuking a city was pretty fucking over the top, I will admit that.

>no voiced cut-scenes
Like, even Mario, king of keeping the same tone and storylines has voiced cut-scenes in his more ambitious games.

It's been going for 25 years, gotta have some sort of storyline or SOMETHING to change the same old story.
Would you be happy if they made old retro minimal games and ALSO had a more storybased Sonic game every so often?

He doesn't even want story in the classic games, so I doubt it.

>Would you be happy if they made old retro minimal games and ALSO had a more storybased Sonic game every so often?
No, because the latter will bring the franchise's reputation down. Sonic doesn't need voice actors or a serious story. AT MOST, it should be like 3&K, AT MOST.

Just one more manual, then I'm done.

Why

Dr. Eggman's large fortress, the Death Egg, was going to escape into space, but Sonic crashed his 'Egg into the ground again. As he escaped from the falling space station, Sonic was thrown down by the wind and into the "floating island", where huge mushrooms grow luxuriantly inside a deep forest.

The Death Egg's safety was confirmed as it crashed into into the large volcano of the "floating island". Sonic was annoyed that the Death Egg had survived and would not feel totally at ease, unless it was completely destroyed. Sonic realizes Dr. Eggman couldn't complete the Death Egg properly due to the amount of time he had to work on it!

Just as Sonic ponders this, Knuckles appears from the door hidden in a thicket, and looks around cautiously. After a quick look, he ventures out and disappears into the wood. Sonic waits for Knuckles to disappear, and then pushes a button to open the door to the room. As he enters the room, Sonic is astounded by a dazzling bright light, that seems to reflect in his eyes. The light came from the special shining "Super Ring".

"What _is_ this ring?"

>this entire post
Fuck it, at least the Archie shitposter is able to back up his claims and make a valid point here and there.

I think SA2 went a bit over the top at the end, but yeah, SA1 is pretty alright. I think it was just a missile into a building, but you wouldn't get that in Sonic today in this day and age.

Sonic couldn't tear his curious eyes away from this shining ring. He thought the ring was wonderful, but the moment he touched it with his hand, Sonic heard a shrill sound and was catapulted across the dimensions.

When Sonic arrived on the other side, he ended up in a large room he had never seen before. Sonic found it odd that the solem altar that was built into the large room had not collected dust at all. Just as Sonic looked up at the large altar, he faltered in surprise. In the center of the altar, sat the "Master Emerald", a huge deitied Chaos Emerald.

What is up with this strange altar? Just what does this Knuckles guy do here? This island has a massive secret and Sonic bets that Dr. Eggman knows what it is! But Sonic will have to face Knuckles in a final confrontation in order to get to him!

The "Sonic the Hedgehog" adventure on the "floating island" is underway and there is still more to come!

Now we're being sensible here