The modern V6 Mustangs and Camaros have over 300 horsepower. Why do you guys hate them? I am sure everyone would rather have the V8 versions, but not everyone shits gold bricks or wants to finance it for 100 years.
tl;dr, why is 300 HP too little for Veeky Forums ?
Because the whole point of the cars is the v8. You could buy a 370Z if you wanted a v6.
Ian Young
>buy the shitty budget version of a car for attention >LOL NOT EVERY1 IS RICH GOD
Buy a different fucking car, it's the same story every time. The only reason you'd ever buy a V6 muscle car is so you can brag about it to equally automotive retarded normies
Cooper Morales
>The only reason you'd ever buy a V6 muscle car is so you can brag about it to equally automotive retarded normies That's why YOU would. Other people do it for other reasons.
James Taylor
If you can't afford the V8, you likely won't be able to afford the V6 either... There's nothing worse than somebody being "car poor" where they have a nice car but can't afford the gas or insurance.
Yes 300hp is too little, that's fucking minivan tier.
Bentley Cooper
For the price of any given V6 ponycar, you can get a slightly older secondhand V8 one - with the V8 producing more power, better sound, and generally having more options.
Kevin Watson
>people retarded enough to buy v6 muscle/pony cars buying them for any other reason
Blake Smith
I don't understand your mentality, Veeky Forums
It's like $3000-$4000 USD more for the 370Z
Logan Johnson
I'd get one for cost, fuel economy and because I'm realistic that more than 300 HP is unnecessary.Stop being a benchracing faggot, OP.
Eli Garcia
The V6 isn't muscle car muscle head.
Adam Cook
Bring this back.
Base model trim would probably be a N/A V6
Top Trim (GNX) would be a Turbo V6
It would have around as much Horsepower as the V8 SS trim Camaro or more (basically it would be one fucking powerful V6 Turbo muscle) just like the last GNX.
Dylan Foster
>Yes 300hp is too little, that's fucking minivan tier.
Veeky Forums sometimes the shit you say makes me really wonder if any of you actually own a car.
An older V8 would cost so much less that fuel economy is moot.
A V8 ponycar isn't a muscle car either.
Base model should be a n/a V6. Ricer spec, offer a turbo inline four. SS, R/T or GT trim should be an n/a V8 Offer maybe a Scat-Pack style trim with a bigger n/a V8
Top trim, offer a twinturbo V8.
Brayden James
The V8s aren't that much more expensive, and generally the difference in maintenance, insurance, and fuel mileage is negligible But in return you get so much more power, and they hold their value better as well
William Diaz
Base spec ponycars are always best for big block swaps - or crazy stuff like fullsize truck diesels.
Kayden Gonzalez
A previous generation V8 still costs more than the current generation V6
Do you actually look at cars Veeky Forums or do you just shitpost all day?
Or maybe it is just my geographical location where there aren't many cars
Asher Cruz
THE RS IS AN APPEARANCE PACKAGE. IT'S NOT THE V6 VERSION. THE V6 VERSIONS ARE LT AND LS. FUCK. EVERYONE GETS THIS WRONG.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Nathaniel Hughes
It's your location.
Brody Lewis
>previous generation V8 still costs more than the current generation V6 Do you live in England?
Jeremiah Taylor
v6, i4, pnycrs have always been hairdresser tier. The fact that v6 are increasing in power is kinda irrelevant considering the v8 are as well.
Tyler Sanchez
You can get (or at least could) get like a 1LT V6 trim with the RS package and badge, so, uh.... yeah
middle of farmland USA
John Brooks
Basically my view on it is if you can't afford a V8 muscle car, then look for something that has a turbo 4. I just can't stand the gutless whine of an n/a 4 or 6 cylinder. To me a car needs to sound mean, whether it's growling like a lion or screaming like a banshee.
Jack Cruz
but wouldn't the V8 models have different suspension and other driveline/chassis upgrades that would be better suited for crazy swaps?
Andrew Moore
You could have gotten an SS with the RS package too.
Jordan Perry
>To me a car needs to sound mean, whether it's growling like a lion or screaming like a banshee.
What about those of us who aren't insecure manlets?
>not liking an NA i6
Dylan Butler
>I just can't stand the gutless whine of an n/a 4 or 6 cylinder >He doesn't know about the S2000's screaming engine or Porsche's flat 6s
Logan Reed
This is pretty much what Cadillac is doing with the ATS.
Base model is turbo I4. Next model up is N/A V6. Next model up is TT V6 (ATS-V).
Samuel Green
When you're backhalving a car, adding a solid rear end with a four link, going to front struts, and massively reducing weight - nobody cares.
Kevin Green
>if you can't get what I like, then get something else I like
Speak for yourself, faggot. We're not here to serve you.
Luis Turner
>Guy I went to high school with had his dad buy him a V6 mustang >He spent his retail money on parts to make it look like a cobra >Has a fucking "3.7 Cyclone" badge on the rear deck lid >Cobra grill, spoiler, wheels, etc >Just bought fucking Cobra badges for it >mfw constantly make fun of him for it >He says he'll race me for pink slips at the next meet >mfw I ride a CBR600rr >mfw riced out Mustang will soon be in my possession
Why are Mustang driver's so easy to bait?
Samuel Jenkins
I don't hate them, but I would love to have an EV version of the new Camaro. That would be great.
Ethan Garcia
no
you need a new k-member, new front suspension, new trans in most of the cases which means you need new driveshaft and you might aswell get a new rear end to handle the power
Luis Rivera
>why are stupid people so easy to bait Ftfy There's people like that in every car group I know damn well I couldn't beat a sport bike. But then again I don't pretend to have something I don't.
Brody Parker
>not liking loud cars just for the fact that they're loud I love being outdoors and hearing someone in a muscle car doing a screeching burnout followed by a low roar off in the distance, or cars that sound like sport bikes ripping through gears at ridiculous rpm's. Doesn't have to be my own car making the noise desu.
Carter Myers
I own an na I6, doesn't hold a candle in the feels department to my 5.0 coyote.
Levi Lopez
v6 muscle cars actually compete well with other new cars at their price point. Any time someone brings up the genesis coupe, the response is "buy a 370 or a v6 stang"
Other than the 'shoulda bought a v8' mentality, there isnt really a GOOD reason not to consider one at that price point
Nicholas Taylor
I fucking love loud cars. I havent lived in many places near traffic but getting woken up by a straight piped anything is ok with me. When I go to car shows and meets I just chill in a high traffic area and just listen to the cars cruise by.
Hunter Perez
He literally just explained his mentality in
Austin Allen
That's exactly it, v8s suspension are set up to handle v8s , the v6 ponies drive like shit because they are shit, Ford wasn't going to encroach on v8 territory even though they could
Benjamin Gonzalez
you are a dumb faggot
most of the older pony cars parts from the late 90's and early 00's wont be able to handle the power of a modern v8 swap
LT1 camaros and SOHC 4.6 mustangs barely made over 3002hp
Thomas Long
300whp
Jonathan Gomez
I'm fucking talking and newer cars we all are
Charles Watson
Because they are so worried about their "manhood".
And the biggest question is why anyone would ever ever ever idolize obsolete pushrod V8 when there are so much better engines on the market today.
Brandon Rivera
@15062797
Ryder Thomas
This is not bait, this is fact. A car built in a fucking shed in the UK with less than half of the engine capacity will destroy any stock muscle car in any kind of race.
Logan Anderson
Funny thing is, V6 coupes aren't so common anymore, and I'm pretty sure Mustang and Camaro are the cheapest V6 vehicles in Ford and Chevy's respective lineups.
So, I don't think it's such a bad thing to drive a V6 Mustang/Camaro, if that's the sort of car you want. Just don't act like you're hot shit because it's a mustang/camaro.
Austin Hughes
>any kind of race. Half mile drags.
Elijah Stewart
@15062845 You literally just completely moved the goalposts. I could alo build an FFR cobra replica with a 427 and destroy any mustang or camaro or whatever around a track, what's your point?
Kevin Rivera
Now you've just invited him to post "Drag racing goes on /lgbt" or some shit.
William Richardson
Learn to Veeky Forums you idiot.
Parker Phillips
I'm not giving him (you)s.
Brandon Williams
They do 0-60 in less than 3 seconds and 0-120mph in about 10. I don't think there's any problem.
Andrew Cook
This shit is faster than a hellcat. Has half the cylinders and less than half the power. And it's "wrong wheel drive"
Jaxon Gutierrez
10 second 120mph? That's just not competitive in most pony car drag racing.
Blake Morris
everyone on Veeky Forums will shit on you unless you drive something made in asia.
dont take what people say here seriously.
James Lee
And it's heavily modded out the ass specifically for that track.
Every argument in this thread in favor of V6 "muscle" cars is basically STOP HATIN OMG FUKIN HATERZ UR ALL DUMB
Jaxon Davis
A stock Caterham 620R does the 1/4mile in under 12 seconds.
Carson Hall
Why would you respond to a CTR poster?
Asher Hall
At this point I'd shell out the extra for the V8 primarily not to be lumped with the other V6 muscle owners. Never met someone with a V6 stang or Camaro that didn't go full douche with it.
You don't buy a muscle car with a V6 for the same reason you don't buy a gaming PC just for Microsoft Office.
Carson Bell
Americans don't make very good V6's, whereas they make pretty good V8's. Why buy an American V6 that can't compare to a German V6, when you can buy a V8 and at least have power where you're lacking handling and ride quality.
I don't want you to think I'm bashing American cars in general, I love muscle cars, but you have to be blind and stupid to not believe that the only good things about the American auto industry are the V8's and the Europeanized areas, like the Focus.
Hudson Parker
Most appropriate response so far.
Joseph Price
>tfw v6 camaro still beats the 1995 honda civic with anime stickers that Veeky Forums drives
Even stangs from 2011 with live-axle suspension were on par with M3s.
>not trying to bring up the Camaro vs BMW shitposting
The Camaro can also be had with Magneride suspension which on the Chevy SS (or VF commodore) was said to "Ride like a M5 but better" (that's what Fatt Farah said anyway)
Dylan Wood
>slower >on par
kek
Samuel Taylor
You're still comparing apples to oranges. If you want a fair comparison, try the Camaro vs the 370z. Even with a V8, the Nissan still beats the Camaro. A V6 Camaro wouldn't stand a chance.
Parker Bailey
And still the M2 is a disappointment for the money.
Christian Harris
delicious ameriburger tears :v)
Adam Morales
I don't own a V6 pony car, I just made the thread because Veeky Forums is full of butt-mad shitbox drivers who defend things like the Miata and the Twingo
A modern V6 2+2 would shit all over most of the things Veeky Forums drives and they are salty as fuck over it
I am gravely concerned about traveling 60/mi a day in this thing when it snows every winter.
Other than that, it looks neat
Michael Lee
>You still own a honda civic and you are 28 Top cuck!
Blake Rogers
V6 camaro / mustang still attract chicks a lot better than a civic
just saying
the styling of the car has an impact on the car as well, just just what's powering it
Ayden Sanders
Just get snow tires.
Or, do they not plow the road where you live?
Ethan Perry
KEK, I own a chevy 350 v8
go ahead, keep defenfing your cuck-tier v6
let me guess, your parents gave it to you for prom, and told you you were not getting a v8 because they don't want you racing
top fucking cuckhold!
the cuckhold is LITERALLY defending v6 models KEK
what a sissy cuck
Kevin Fisher
I can't tell if you are for real or trolling.
James White
guess what, a v8 will attract the same amount except you will not be the cuck with the v6 model
Eli Barnes
stay mad at your cuck-tier v6, cuck
Aiden Bennett
>He put a V8 in his civic
MY SIDES ARE IN ORBIT
Ethan Ward
>Buy a v6 pony car cause slightly cheaper and better gas mileage >Enjoying the car a lot without a care in the world >Go on Veeky Forums >Now regret buying a v8
FUCK YOU Veeky Forums
Connor Jones
what kind of fucking retarded post is this?
Easton Diaz
Because you're a giant faggot
Gavin Allen
you will be a cuck for being too poor to buy the girl dinner because the car payment on the V8
Caleb Jenkins
>He cant defend owning a honda civic at 28
LMFAO
Ian Wright
>tries to make fun of someone by calling them poor >has to buy the cuck-tier v6 car to be able to afford dinner are v6 cuckholds REALLY this fucking stupid?,I mean, are you actually this fucking stupid >j/k of course you are, you are defending v6 models
also
>payment try not to be a fucking debtcuck next time
>mfw he actually has car payments on a v6 cuck model top kek, what a cuckhold