/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

>that life bar
panic

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riposting

Am I the only one who'd want to see someone try to run a competitive Souls tourney in real life just to watch the sheer madness and shittiness that would result?

Not so random webm.

Being right

Listen here, I am best JoJo, and posting the same hornet riposte shit every thread does not intimidate me

anally annihilated

DS1 webm. Why isn't it a gif? Must be some Johnny-come-latelys.

I want to invade as a skeleton

I guess it could work if they used that lan shit that some youtuber used with a friend and they have like 1ms ping or some shit.

What kind of a fucking name for a move is "emerald splash"? I guess it would be good for wet T-shirt competitions but for battle? Nah

Out of Jotaro's squad, Kakyoin is the most boring and most devoid of character. Part 3's redeeming quality is when Kakyoin was hospitalized desu.

>tfw no souls bf

A final fantasy one 2bqwitehonest

Listen here nigger, at least I didn't fake die in five seconds to Whore Horse and Pinhead

Had they had the chance to use the painter thing a little more I could've been a wholesomely decent character

DeS webms; they exist for some reason.

Sure, but it'd still be a Souls game. Can you even imagine the kind of autistic shitters that would come out for it? It might go to hell before it even starts if someone brings up the idea of banning certain weapons and equipment.

Which game do you think would be best to use for a tourney, DS3?

Post your face when you see this!
*unzips Havel's gshield and darksword*
*chips away @ u for 30 minutes*
Ur ordeal is over... for now. Not so eager shitpost now, r u? This has been a warning.

beach party with the onion family

Abdulah didn't die though?
>kakyoin can perform voodoo
>nah, let's not use that ever again other than for a minor scene that doesn't even depict what it was supposed to ie star's power

Kakyoin was so unmemorable that Araki actually forgot his powers.

Now talk about Dark Souls, assmunches.

He "died" because /pol/nareff was a racist and was also fighting every halfwit with a stand

Kakyoin is that one friend that claims to be good at video games, but is actually just some pretentious prick.

Woops!

Here's a DeS webm.

At least we haven't reached the point where people start editing and fixing the game on their own or being mocked by other fighters, so we'd never reach the point of Smash.
I think they'd just flock to whichever was the newest since, everything aside, From aren't exactly netplay masters

Post quality netcode

Are there more videos of this strapping young man's exploits?

Eternally mad that there's no shrug in 3

No, neither of them were ever seen again.

You can scratch your ass and ring a bell.

>ring a bell

You mean Eleonora or?

Those don't give off the same "I don't know what is going on or what the fuck you want" feeling

you can use the weapon art to ring chimes

I agree

Are they ever going to fix poise?

they might adjust weapons to make hyperarmor more valuable, but no

having damage reduction while in hyperarmor would be nice

>Beckoner Friendship

This is how edgelords are born

capcha: stop

Oh my can you imagine what it would be like if they announced the DLC right now haha and it had new weapons and rings and armor ahahah it would be interesting

Go back to DS1 faggot.

DaS1 is the only one that could be deep enough for a tournament, especially a lag free one.

fix?
but it's working as intended

It'll always be randomly useful and randomly not with the 30 second-or-stagger refills.

>this picture
God, it's so fucking atmospheric.

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DaS1 with Weapon Arts

or

DaS3 with poise, toggling, and instant backstabs

Yeah, half a minute refills make poise too unreliable to rely on it. Even assuming a great weapon was on the level of others, you couldn't possibly dodge 30 seconds whenever you got hit for the sake of that

>That face

DaS1 with slower back stabs would be the perfect souls game. Poise and toggle escapes made the game deeper.

There is no excuse not to have ful hyper armour from frame 1 of any slow weapons attack animation

Prove me wrong.

then the game will be even more passive than it is now

I'm glad that's not true and that I don't have the need to prove you wrong because you don't have a say in it to be honest.

This will promote even more passive play from both sides
Ultra users will just swing whenever you get close and it dumbs the game down even more
However i do agree that HA could maybe start a bit earlier so its still possible to interrupt but its no longer as easy as it is now

Why do you have porn in your Souls folder?

>fast weapons can't be agressive against them
>but they still can't be hit by ultras except on reaction
>just becomes about waiting for ultras HA to run out

It's about being punished and learning to time your attacks so your attack still goes through, if you run up and R1 in a fast weapon users face you deserve to get your attack stuffed, because you're being stupid, simply pressing an attack button shouldn't be enough to make you safe.

Alright guys, what are some decent Pyro weapons (infusable) usable at base stats, that AREN'T Straight or Thrusting Swords?

The only ones I've got so far are the Hand Axe and Thrall Axe. Witch's Locks has too high dex requirement.

Daggers maybe? Standard spear?

Everytime someone would run by me after invading to try that shit, I would just dashboard.

use your fucking spells for offense

18 dex is the perfect amount.

Thrall axe is the only one i think
Standard spear is too short for its class
Dagger is ok, but keep it as a quick back-up weapon

Club
Battle Axe

both wreck shit in PvE

>rushing someone down
>they press a button
>bunker with an armored move
>they either trade or get hit
>passive

That's not what would happen though. They would just roll through it and punish your recovery.

So instead Ultra users would just backpedal until you tried to swing then they would tap R1 once and repeat.

>any type of spell build in DaSIII
>not having a melee weapon as back-up/support

Yeah no.

I often see people advise the Thrall Axe over the Hand Axe; what's the reason for that? I'm not near my TV so I can't test and see the differences for myself right now.

I should've added it's for PvP/invasions only. Thanks for the tips though.

Let's talk level design, /dsg/.

This time, let's talk about types of levels that you DON'T like in Souls, or your pet peeves in Souls games' level design :

I'll start :

>over reliance on bonfires over physical shortcuts
>overzealous use of killboxes preventing shortcuts if you could normally survive the fall with Fall Control or Cat Ring
>tight aggro leashes on enemies which makes you unable to lead them to favorable terrain or prevents them from chasing you
>rooms that fill no world purpose (i.e Dark Souls 2 secret rooms that were just empty squares with treasure chests)
>levels being designed with Warp in mind (i.e, you can't backtrack without using a bonfire,transition levels lose meaning)
>overall design being very horizontal instead of vertical

Thrall axe has quickstep WA

Thrall axe has the quickstep WA for shenanigans
I think it also has better chaos/dark scaling? not sure about that

>I often see people advise the Thrall Axe over the Hand Axe; what's the reason for that?
Thrall axe has the quickstep.

i hate ds3 boss rooms. 90% of them are just big squares

>doesn't want to use swords
>doesn't want to use thrusting swords
>12 str 9 dex
hammers and axes are your only option buddy

No, because that button is circoe/B. Any good weapon user won't attack you. They can dodge all your attacks on reaction, but because you can reaction press light attack you could reaction roll out of, they know if they do any attack they attack first, they lose, so they'll simple stop attacking UNLESS you can't attack back, such as roll catching, or attacks with little recovery like most running or 2kats WA.
There is no reason for them to be aggressive at all, and if you try to be aggressive on your part, well, you're still a greatweapon user

>Any good weapon user won't attack you.
Dark Souls 3 pvp in a nutshell

I gotta say that DS3 design even if it's a lot more linear than Dark Souls 1, there's still the option to venture to a high level area like the catacombs in DS1 with the Dancer/Lothric Castle and I fairly enjoyed it. Also some of the shortcuts are fucking stupid like the crystal lizard one at Farron keep or the ones in the Great Archive. Overused much a little bit?

Exactly, however, his proposal would make it even worse. How can someone look at DaS3 and say, yes, let's make this more passive

What level? There's no reason to get some STR/DEX

Profaned Capital is pretty much one of the better places that has some good atmosphere. Too bad it's short as fuck.

You all got fucking baited.

Many STR attacks in Demon's had full hyper armour from frame 0 of their animations, the butchers knife/greatclub,dbs etc 2 handed rolling attacks, same as pretty much all the R2's and even alot of the R1's

that game had the most offensive STR play. Right now it's actualy passive because STR people can't fucking attack. They have to rely on mid animation hyper armour. The only way to hit someone with that is

a) a trade
b) the person is stupid and lets it happen

DeS is the only game in the series where STR and DEX were evenly matched

In DaS, your weapons only scale to a certain point, 40 being the soft cap, right? What happens in NG+6 then? Do you just ineffectually wail at the enemies with your weapons that don't scale anymore?
Also, do elemental weapons immediately become useless in NG+

I saw someone else mention this yesterday too: what's the use of Quickstep when you're not 2-handing it anyway? I mean, I might be wrong, but the way I see it you have your Pyromancy Flame in one hand spamming GCFO & Black Serpent and whatnot, and you quickly hit them with Black Flame or your Melee weapon when they roll into you/get too close.

End-game invasions, so SL75-80 max. 35/35 Int/Fai, 24 Att and a bit of Vig. Don't have any other stat points left.

Is doing some fancy ravioli backstabs and other flashy moves--that I assume only looks good on your end--really practical in Souls PvP? Like this, for example

youtube.com/watch?v=dPIuPT4M5eQ

Is it something who wants to git gud in PvP should learn?

And that's it, 3 DMB's and i'm done
Fuck why did i do this
And why the fuck am i thinking of going for a 4th one on my Hexer?

Elemental infusions are only useful for a SL1, for PvE pure physical is objectively better.

What's up with the floor in the greatwood boss area? There is a place under it where clearly people have been before but they couldn't have got there because the floor was not broken. Then again that one guy with the cage brings you to the area even though breaking the floor is the only way in. Is the floor an illusion that was so well made that you can walk on it? What kind of wizard could probably make an illuson that becomes physic-It makes no fucking sense.

a u t i s m

Dark Souls 1
>fastroll had 13 iframes, 11 recovery frames
>25% load or lower

Dark Souls 3
>fastroll has 13 iframes, 11 recovery frames
>70% load or lower
>covers more distance compared to previously
>costs less stamina compared to weapon attacks
>can't be punished by backstabs

Why did they do this?

So far I like elemental because I can have high STR to carry proper shields while also using a spear without gimping myself

>Also some of the shortcuts are fucking stupid like the crystal lizard one at Farron keep or the ones in the Great Archive. Overused much a little bit?

I think Grand Archives was good because it was based around a single bonfire, but eh, we've got our own opinions.

I liked Grand Archives overall a lot, especially the fact that you can choose to avoid the Gargoyle gangbang, if you choose to take on the Knight.

>Also some of the shortcuts are fucking stupid like the crystal lizard one at Farron keep
The shortcut is kinda stupid because there's no real point to there being a shortcut in the first place because lmao just use a bonfire, right? I'm glad that it's there but it just serves next to no purpose.

DS3's absolute high points for me from the level hub perspective were Road of Sacrifices / Farron Keep / early CoTD because it was the only time in the game where you felt like you had some choice of progress (but you actually didn't).

The levels themselves are FOR THE MOST PART pretty well designed, but some, like Lothric Castle, imo have too many bonfires. They should've not given so many bonfires, especially having a bonfire after every boss was pretty redundant.

>i hate ds3 boss rooms. 90% of them are just big squares
That's true, but then you also had :
>Soul of Cinder
>Deacons
>DS Armour
>Crystal Sage
>Ancient Wyvern

Yeah user, HA on STR weapons is the only difference between DaS3 and DeS and reintroducing it would certainly change how the game is now.
Feel free to describe how a STR vs. DEX fight would go in three with one side then the other winning

Secret passage unavailable to the player.

Guy is a mad man.

It might not work on people who can space themselves decently enough as he's playing against pontiff randoms who probably don't know what they're doing.

If you want to get good you'll learn it eventually anyway but there's more important stuff to learn currently.

Who /CHAMP/ here?

S T O P

Pyromancy or hex for DaS2 PvP?