Ben Brode gets questioned on video about the Firelands Portal and Arena balance
>Brode: I guess we can NOT make more powerful commons for Mage and Rogue, and make more useful common cards for the shit classes like Hunter, Priest, etc
>Brode: Except I don't think that's the solution, what if I change the way I code arena (Which I don't know if I even can do), or the way that draft in arena works (Which again, I don't know if I can do), or what if arena gets replaced by another play mode, or what if we solution it when new technology comes to Blizzard in some years
>Laughs
>Next question please
THIS GUY IS FUCKING RETARDED
Christian Thomas
Firelands Portal will be a good one-of tempo mage card
Cooper Morales
I propose the following changes to the General lingo.
The term "Mill" will now be know as "Milf" >I milf the top 2 cards of your deck >This is a milf deck >Milfing the opponent
Also the term "midrange" no longer can be used when refering to Hunter, Warrior, Shaman or Paladin. >My deck is face hunter or aggro hunter >My deck is aggro shaman with big minions splashed for no reason
Daniel Butler
xd lul
Owen Wood
From yesterday:
Charge becomes a battlecry effect. How much of an improvement is that?
>brann does not mean the unit attacks twice. The minion is already fatigued from attacking the first time.
Nah. Summon>huffer>select target.
William Long
fuck her, priest deserves a better hero yes yes
Brandon Brown
>waaaaaa hes trying to fix arena instead of putting a bandaid on it. do you happen to be a young child?
Robert Russell
someone should ask him about zeriyahs vagina
Evan Butler
>tfw no Tirion I don't have the top deck skill to play aggro/face decks well.
Adam Wright
i defintely want to use it in my reno mage
David Diaz
i definitely want to use it in my reno mage
Dylan Sullivan
is the unicorn priest deck the twisted hogger with volazj after a thaurissan boost?
wow benny brodey
Ethan Roberts
kek
Angel Gonzalez
Samefag, and not even a funny one.
Hudson Bell
How do you pronounce volajz?
I think it's similar to Sajvz. In my head I say it like "vo-lights" (vo as in "vote")
Jack Flores
>doesn't have topdeck skills >plays a deck that's literally called call of the wild
Julian Wilson
They still cost 11 mana total even after one tick.
Though I'm tempted to try it. It probably ends with berserker into ghoul into execute into more balanced removal.
Brayden Lee
Voe - lahj - z The end syllable kind of ends with a hollow juhz noise where your tongue doesnt touch the roof of your mouth
Ian Brooks
It's so unlikely now a days to beat Warrior as Rogue. God this is unfun.
Jose Nelson
What would that even do
Alexander Stewart
The 1/1 copy summons 1 (one) gnoll with taunt after being hit.
Then your entire board dies or other typical priest shit happens.
Tyler Williams
people keep complaining about how shaman is not midrange but face
well, it depends. is it running 2 doomhammers and lava bursts? no? then i doubt it can be anything but midrange or control
is it running Steak and facless taunter? it could be midrange but if it has a pair of the other cards mentioned then it is the hybrid shaman. just as hated as face but with the added bonus of stronger midgame.
frankely, i play dragon shaman with totem golem instead of the 3/5 because of consistancy. other than that, my shamans are true midrange with WINDS, no weapons or bloodlust, and the only face spell is a single copy of lightning bolt
Isaac Flores
>people keep complaining about how shaman is not midrange but face its one or two people and they are only pretending to be retarded.
Owen Bailey
How come I don't see anyone playing healadin anymore? Too expensive? Not good against zoo and warrior?
It was all over the place at the start of the expansion.
Leo Ross
Ladder is full of zoo, dragon warrior, and hunter. Playing N'Zoth paladin in such environment is bullshit.
Jackson Roberts
List of common misconceptions of /hsg/
1. Midrange Just because your aggresive deck uses beffy minions for the early or late game it's a "midrange" or "control" deck, 90% of the time your minions and all your resources go to face anyway, so yeah cupcakes, you're playing aggro. This is not Magic the Gathering where actual midrange decks exist and in great variety, in Hearthstone due to the lack of card variety we just have a perpetual aggro format with some small techs to try to go from Level 0 (being the deck to beat) to Level 1 (decks that try to prey on the deck to beat)
Justin Sullivan
>Too expensive? Yes. Paladin is one of my favorite classes but I can't even consider playing Control being f2p and all.
Jonathan Nelson
>Been playing since before naxx >Done every tavern brawl at least once for the pack. >No tirion or ragnoros. 3 Alextrasas. a bloo bloo bloo.
Charles Murphy
>2 dupes=1 legendary And what are you cryig about now
Aiden Gray
Too mana inefficient to play
Isaiah Thomas
>Too expensive?
Yes and is NOT WORTH IT.
Take it from me, an user that basically prostituted himself to money to play competitive Hearthstone. It will only leave your ass sore (in the literall and figurative sense) and your soul broken.
Hunter Hughes
400x2=1600?
Dylan Young
What does it do wrong? I thought it was designed to carry into the late game and then win from there.
Have aggro and zoo really gone this far?
Mason James
Too slow. Too controlly. Doesnt handle aggro qell. Only does well against super control match upz
Elijah Wright
>90% of the time your minions and all your resources go to face anyway no. >we just have a perpetual aggro format with some small techs no. at least try to maintain a reasonable position. hyperbole undermines your point.
Jayden Williams
Going to the lateame means you have to survive leeroyx4 PO, Double highmane double call of the wild, Rag Grom deathwing Onyxia, and 32 charges of doomhammer
Nolan Nguyen
How much until the stream?
Gabriel James
>tfw no bf to cuddle with while playing hearthstone :(
Xavier Gonzalez
are you a cute anime girl
Christian Nguyen
Like 7.5 hours
I still can't wait though, the show matches are always so comfy
Dominic Campbell
Remember to report off topic shitposts like these.
Logan Sanchez
Is not hyperbole in a sense of the word. Those are facts.
You will never trade your 7/7 into small minions, you use it to apply pressure by going face with massive damage early on. Steak Here also makes your totems a small army to chip the face away from the opponent really fast, while having annoying sinergies. For the LIFE BINDER also always goes into face and is your opponent the one that needs to assume a defensive stance to deal with her. If you Call of the Wild on 8 you go face with huffer and the rest of your minions, because at such time due to the nature of your deck you will be about 10 damage away at most from winning.
Grayson Torres
>For the LIFE BINDER also always goes into face Hello shieldbearer.
Gabriel Carter
>You will never trade your 7/7 into small minions, you use it to apply pressure by going face with massive damage early on. Some midrange Shamans run ZERO (0) 7/7s. Some run only one, for precisely the reason to mentioned. It is not a great minion to trade with, and when you do play it you do so to pressure their removal or to rebuild the board lategame. >Steak Here also makes your totems a small army to chip the face away from the opponent really fast, while having annoying sinergies. Steak send the totems in to trade while also pressuring face, but almost always sends the totems to trade unless we are ready to win. His first job is to leave behind a 2/2 totem after he dies.
Charles Lopez
>Rather than balance a broken system we want to rework it entirely Sounds good to me Of course they're entirely too incompetent to do it properly but the thought is nice
Jack Diaz
It's not off topic you fucking retard, its literally all about hearthstone
Jonathan Parker
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Juan Martinez
>>/reddit/
Cooper Morales
>tfw when i can't murder all the gays with my qt hearthstone bf
NIGGER, WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE PRIEST CARDS ALREADY. Khara-go-fuck-yourself
Bentley Gonzalez
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Cameron Edwards
I will translate what you're saying
>Some Shamans players cut objetively powerful cards from their decks in order to build their deck in an objetively inferior way >Creating a game plan where they are playing the class and cards objetively wrong >Resulting in subpar results almost all the time except when they get lucky once every 100 games
And all because they think that "midrange" exist on Hearthstone and that Aggro Shaman suddenly is "midrange" by adding a couple of subpar big minions....
Dominic Thomas
ETA for cards reveal?
Connor Martin
I thought we were having a discussion but you just want to post shit. Fuck off then.
Leo Russell
>my enemies top decks after they run out of card >bog creeper into kraken
>my top decks after i run out of cards >mana addict into crazed alchemist
If you chose to cut absurdly good cards from your deck in order to add subpar card and try to play in a way that the deck and class wasn't intended, you're gonna get shit results. That's not midrange.
Then you inevitably return to the point where you know you need the good absurd cards to win, but still like the big minions for X or Y reason? That's not midrange either, your deck is just an aggro core trying to not be all balls deep with the illusion of good late game, but you never get into the late game anyway because the aggro part of the deck wins by turn 5 anyway.
Like I said in HS we have a perpetual aggro format where true midrange cannot exist. And I doubt we will ever be free from it.
William Russell
The meta is heavily teched to deal with turn 4 7/7s, Execute Mulch Deadly Shot Hex PO.
It makes sense to cut one if you find that you're getting ichor executed too much and actually hurting your winrate.
Jaxon Rodriguez
>If you chose to cut absurdly good cards from your deck in order to add subpar card and try to play in a way that the deck and class wasn't intended, you're gonna get shit results. You already show a fundemental misunderstand in how deck building works.
Xavier Jackson
>opponent is priest in arena >2 excavated evil >2 holy nova >mind control
Booty bothered desu
Dominic Lee
The thing i don't like about Mr. Raccoon is that the ladies don't look soft. They look firm.
Julian Long
>need taunt totem to win >already have 2 totems >dont roll taunt
Lincoln Sanchez
who?
Hudson Taylor
so i finally have a rag and sylvanas, what decks can i make now
Parker Morales
You're going into the path of
>Im not going to run good cards because my opponent can answer them
But then you have to run something in place of these good cards you just cut, and the new cards aren't as good and can get countered by the same responces anyway.
In a game with such high variance as HS you can't try to outplay the metagame, it simply doesn't work, you're better off playing the good absurd cards because it's preferible having the consistency they provide on your side and the chance to win easly with them when not answered.
Justin Lopez
in other words, its all down to rng. and we all know how good of a system that is. at least in magic there are cards that let you control your deck and what you can draw so long as you set it up correctly
Kevin Carter
This.
Statistics have shown that even with aggro shaman, playing 477 on turn 4 actually makes your win rate worse in some matchups.
Caleb Wood
when night in karazhan releases is anything rotating out?
Evan Rogers
>tfw want to get to legend but too poor for dragon warrior and token druid baka desu senpai
Julian Bailey
Dr. Graevling Mr. Raccoon
Dominic Taylor
just play zoolock or aggro shaman
Joshua Harris
dragon warrior? does that even use any legendaries?
Michael Nelson
>and can get countered by the same responces anyway. at least try to hide your inexperience a bit better. you don't even know what the cards you're talking about do.
Logan Cox
Sylvanas bothers tempo and specifically midrange, Rag works in control decks, so some sort of control deck. Generally, Grom and Rag are in all of them. Then there's others, too.
John James
Added on the Russian server.
Cooper Hall
I CAN WAIT NO LONGER BY FIRE BE PURGED
Dylan Thomas
post your server and tag dummy
Justin Barnes
they use a lot of brm cards and i never bought most brm because dragon decks have always been just a meme until now
Ryan Gray
Exactly, the lack of healthy tutors make the game much more dependant on the rng of the draw in the first turns, making aggro decks better by default.
In yugioh exist the opposite, the massive amount of tutoring and power plays makes the game revolve around dominance and controled unbrekeable fields from turn 1.
Magic got a middle field, but the lands rng issues also can fuck your entire gameplay anyway.
Blake Lopez
r8 m8s
Jacob Wright
Naeoro#2876 EU please, sir
Camden Walker
badatmtg#1731
Jackson Perez
rickybobby#1228 NA
Dylan Long
is this for real? why would an aggro deck have such heavy legendaries?