The Mechanical Jew

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That's what happens when you go to non-certified mechanics. They learn by trial and error on people's cars. And of course charge their time and parts experimenting to your wallet.

Perhaps ASE certified mechanics are better?

The type of mechanic hardly matters in the end. Properly diagnosing and repairing a car costs time, and time is often the single most precious resource a shop has. They can't afford to do a proper job; they'd be out of business if they did. Most of the crunch comes on the diagnosing end, though. So if you can figure out what's wrong on your own time and have the shop do that specific repair, they probably won't cut too many important corners.

My mom needed a new transmission put into her car, she got quoted more than the car was worth by someone and was upset that she couldn't afford that. Managed to cut the bill in half for her by just drawing up a list of exactly what the car needs, what parts to get, where they can be found and for how much, and how long it should take, and sending her to the mechanic with that. Yeah doing your own diagnostics and being able to say to the mechanic exactly what you want done helps.

Easier and less expensive to just buy a lifter and do the work yourself.

Play Car Mechanic Simulator 2015, I learned a lot about cars. There need to be more car mechanic sim games.

You need real world experience

Someone could memorize a chiltons manual cover to cover and then freeze at the first frozen bolt they run into

Old farmers and redneck mechanics are the best for that kind of thing, i've learned more from Cletus and his rusty c10 than from any formal training

Not my story because I do my own work but a friend told me this.
>oil light in his Neon comes on
>he though it just meant it was time for an oil change
>lolno it's low on oil
>blows up
>pays to have it towed to a mechanic he found on craigslist
>mechanic says he is going to drop a new engine in it
>lolno a week later he says he tried and it won't fit
>says he has another car to offer him of which he has just fixed the steering rack
>he takes the Neon plus a couple hundred dollars for that car
>friend drives that for a week, then he hits a bump turning into a parking lot and suddenly cantturn
>can't afford a tow or repair so he just leaves it there
>asks me for a ride and if I know anyone selling a car for less than $1k
>he also has to move back in with his mom around this time
>his mom drives an uninsured shitbox with expired registration

Home diag can be shit tho

>Idiot insists he just needs new pads, brakes are grinding etc
>get up on lift
>fucking front wheel bearing is hanging on by caliper
>STOP TRYING TO SCAM ME ALL I NEED IS BRAKES

>There's moisture in your exhaust. It'll be 900$ to fix."
I hope he didn't actually think someone would fall for this

Did you replace your thermostat, too?

Your friend is a dumbass lol. I mean, that mechanic is a terrible human being who takes advantage of dumbasses but still.

Dodge dealer in downtown Los Angeles gave me this line last month. After cleaning injector (not at dealer) all is well.

Bad thermostat wouldn't cause those symptoms.

> stuck open: engine never warms up
> stuck closed: engine would still be super-hot

Also, if stuck closed, he wouldn't have made it to work.

>Go to Jiffy Lube for oil change
>All's good
>Halfway through they come out with a dirty air filter not from my car
>Tell us that this is my air filter, look how dirty, you should replace it
>Tell them that's not my air filter
>Mechanical Jew scurries back into their rat hole and acts like nothing happens when they return my car with fresh oil.

Jiffy Lube never again.

Have an old '86 vannagon at 800k. Second engine is right around half of that. Family friend wants to start driving it so I let her take it, was smooth as silk when it left my driveway. About a month later she brought it back and asked if she could store it until she got time to fix the engine that apparently "broke".

I didn't really care so just threw a tarp over it. The other day (three months later) she is over hanging out and tells me full story.

>Take van in for an oil change
>Everyone super nice, super helpful and inviting.
>After change sounds fine, drives around and then drives home
>Next day huge puddle of oil in driveway so she adds some more oil and drives it back to shop
>When she asks about what happened and if they could take a look they get evasive. One of the guys starts to talk to her then gets pulled away and someone else comes out.
>Engine is shot, no evidence of any oil leak so she must have fucked it up. Also she must be lying about puddle. Also she should buy new engine.
>Had it towed to me

Wish I had time to look into it when it was dropped off. Fuckers left out the drain plug and that I would bet money on. Then lied because she is a girl.

>Jiffy Lube

you did it to yourself. at least have the self-respect to go to a Firestone or Les Schwab.

Go to mechanical jew to do minor repairs.
Mech jew says it's done, come get your car
All looks fine, but after a week decide to ride with open windown because warm weather.
Hear that engine sounds a bit differen.
Get to the friends garage to check.
Catalysator gone.
Complain to mech jew. Says I cut catalys my self after repair.(1 week passed since repairs)
Cant proof shit, such life in eastern europe

>Jiffy Lube never again.

Same here. I was lied to.

Oh my, you too? I doubt I live in your town or city, but my Jiffy Lube about 15 years ago tried some strange tactics to upsell me a new air filter. Now, I replaced my own air filters and check them regularly because I like to vacuum out any dirt or debri that settles to the bottom of the air chamber space beneath the filter. No mummified cat yet found there like with someone else in this forum.

Because I usually inspect my car before I take it to any place for service, I knew my filter didn't need replacement and it was still somewhat new. Yet, they tried to upsell me a new filter with that "your air filter is dirty and needs replacement line". They don't have to be commissioned because if they have monthly sales target goals in order to collect a bonus, that results in the same effect as a commission; they upsell aggressively to the consumer and are deceptive. I stopped going to JL after that because of their constant upselling.

All right, now you guys get to kick me. I used Fram air filters. They have that pretty orange foamed rubber surround for the filter and I always liked that color. Much nice looking than black rubber. So that's why I only used Fram for the life of the car.

Jiffy Lube. The land of unneeded upselling.

It's a good thing he didn't use that repair opportunity to steal other valuable parts off your car besides the catalytic converter. He could have stripped the airbags out from your dash as those have good resale profit.

>Getting WOF from person I've never been to before
"Looks straight"
'Yeah just got it 4 weeks ago'
>Ask if I can come back in 2 hours due to work
>Come back and find it's failed on handbrake (This was the only problem I actually knew of, rebuild kit didn't arrive in time)
>Leaking rear pistons (Literally bled all brakes last week, I'm surely not the only one that checks for leaks every day after for a week)
>Front pads worn (Replaced while bleeding, greased and cleaned 1 week prior)
>Power steering fluid needs changing (Fully flushed with synthetic with brakes)
>Something about AC pressure
At that point I just stopped him and asked for a quote to get it all done, he said some 4 figure number. The balls on this guy.
'And how much to defend yourself in small claims for trying to rip me off?'
"What?"
'You heard me.'
"Get the fuck off my property"

Couldn't believe it, he's obviously gotten away with it before.

£1700 to fix an Audi fuel pump :'(

>paying people of questionable reliability to play legos with you car

Ex Jiffy lube employee here
We're trained to ask you if you'd like to have your air filter replaced, whether it's dirty or not. It's all for the sale.

this is why you specify the job and what you want done. you then check the job to make sure they performed it properly. I had to have a piece of pipe fabbed and I had to go over each measurement to specify that yes, it had to be these measurements. yes it needs the mounting tabs like in the picture. yes it needs a flare.

>mechanic
>doesnt connect scan tool to diagnose electrical problem
this is surprisingly common. and then they proceed to attempt repairs as if its some ancient analog carby POS.

I would literally never take my car to a shop unless my car broke down, but I live in jew York with required yearly inspections, and a car with a service engine soon light that always comes on even after its "fixed"

I hate mechanic fucks, and the thought of me getting ripped off by these fucks boils my blood, why I never take my car in

>getting oil change done by a mechanic
why?
mechanics will agree to use a higher grade oil but IRL they use drums of the cheapest shittiest 10-40 mineral oil for every car regardless of service spec. they will even up sell you to synthetic but just draw from the same drum.

>get scan tool
>reset service light yourself
even the 5$ ebay scan tools can be used with torque pro to just reset the code on a lot of cars.

Yelp is amazing for this nowadays. No more having to go to your uncles friends cousins place that he suggested in the outskirts of buttfuck nowhere.

I've found two places for my audi which is already saturated in bad mechanics but yelp got me to dedicated , good shops

>workmate doesnt show up one day
>calls me, his company car died
>drive out there and diagnose, cambelt has snapped
>we tow his car to nearest mechanic
>"yeah mate the belt is snapped and the engine is toast, rocker arms are totally smashed... we'll give you $300 for it, as-is"
>company car so we can't say yes or no, arrange to have the car towed back to work for now
>pull rocker cover off out of curiosity
>valve gear... seems alright?
>drop borescope in for a look
>valves.... look ok?
>end up buying car off company and changing belt, tensioners myself
>car fires straight back up to life

fucking cunts

I've turned it off myself before taking it in, it doesn't work, they even said to me smiling "you turned off your service soon light didnt you", you have no idea what bullshit they put the car through for the inspection so just fuck off

It should be a felony to lie about auto repair, but then we'd just end up having well tuned prison buses

>mechanics will agree to use a higher grade oil but IRL they use drums of the cheapest shittiest 10-40 mineral oil for every car regardless of service spec. they will even up sell you to synthetic but just draw from the same drum.

A 55-gallon drum of Havoline motor oil can be just $400 to the oil change shop thru their distributor. In comparison, a consumer would pay $605 for the same drum if you picked it up at hopkinsoil.com/oil-depot/product-pricing/ or some other place like that.

Jewish Internet Defense Force please go.

>autism speaks
I'm not sure what you think wholesale oil pricing has to do with a mechanic buying the cheapest oil on the list.

Where was this?

>medieval europe
>bread is a vital part of daily life for everyone
>bakers found to be adulterating flour/tampering with weights to scam customers get punished harshly

>modern world
>cars are a vital part of daily life for everyone
>mechanics who invent problems/replace functional parts to scam customers get begrudgingly accepted as part of life
Parading disreputable mechanics around town with the offending car part tied around their neck when?

my sister had her twingo's whole exhaust line changed.
After a few week, she started complaining about weird loud vibration noise around the muffler.

Finally had a chance to look at it the other day, and well, picture speaks for itself.

Jesus christ.

This car has been in the shop for 2 years now.
It should be done soon(tm)

Great plan

Thats why i always bring my own oil to my mech.
I mean he is a good guy and been working on my car for years, he wouldnt fuck me over anyway, but still.

Read the code instead of clearing it, fix it and then it'll go away on its own.. That's the point of the light. I have annual inspections too with 0 issues passing each time.

No. Goddamn you guys are awful

>I'm too stupid to repair my vehicle
>mechanic rips me off by trying to charge me for his labor even though I don't know how to fucking do it
>he put wiper blades on and now my transmission is slipping

What's the general opinion about authorized workshops from the dealership/factory?

I work at one, and I never see anything like you guys describe. We've got tall prices, sure, but we rarely if ever rip people off. Granted this is in Europe though, and most of you seem to be having difficulties with US shops.

I have a Co worker that came from jiffy Lube as his last job he told me his boss made him and other guys take people's air filters and rub them with oily rags to make them dirty and to also rip the rubber inserts on wiper blades so customers would buy new ones. I swear jiffy Lube is shit

Dealership Parts Manager Here. The only people who get ripped off are the people who ask for it. Anyone who says "just do what it needs" will get ripped off. They come in for an oil change an leave with an engine flush, power steering flush, transmission flush, emissions service, & a/c tune up. Whatever other things the service writer is getting spiffed on to sell. This month it's in cabin filters. These dumb fuckers actually come in for a 29.95 oil change & leave with a $2000 bill. Oh, BTW next service your cars gonna need 4 tires & brakes all around. Have nice day Mr. Fucknuts. This cunt service writer I work with interprets "just do what it needs" as do whatever she can sell to get a new handbag & a pair of shoes for herself.

>his boss made him and other guys take people's air filters and rub them with oily rags to make them dirty and to also rip the rubber inserts on wiper blades so customers would buy new ones. I swear jiffy Lube is shit

I am the poster in and that's what made me quit using Jiffy Lube in the Tukwila washington state area (near Costco of Tukwila). I didn't know they wiped my Fram air filter with dirty rags, but I knew for sure it was clean because not only was it fairly new, I had inspected it and other things before I went to Jiffy Lube. I usually do a pre-inspection before I take the care anywhere for service. So it was annoying to be told I needed to get a new air filter.

I suppose the managers at JiffyLube cannot resist temptation. They see this endless stream of customers not as people, but as wallets walking in the door. So they feel it is their right to "shoplift" a few dollars from each customers' wallet because the customers can afford it and this is a capitalist society based upon the saying "Caveat Emptor" (buyer beware).

Not my story but happened to my dad.

>try to crank up '92 F150 on a particularly wet and humid morning
>truck turns over once and then nothing, faint white smoke and smell of electrical wiring / components burning
>dad normally does all his own work on his vehicles but he can't trace down the problem this time
>loads the truck up on a trailer and hauls it to a mechanic recommended to him by a friend
>truck stays there for over 3 weeks, they finally trace it down to a fried ECU
>replace ECU and charge about $1000
>gets truck back in running condition but the fucking sway bar is now bent to shit

They apparently tied something onto the sway bar to pull his truck from their parking lot into their shop to work on it and bent the shit out of it. My dad replaced the sway bar but was beyond pissed off about the entire situation.

Made that mistake.
>Get filter changed because long hours and fuck you, I don't feel like doing it myself this time
>Take it to Jiffy Lube, I didn't know any better
>Shitbox is now dripping oil
>Get under her, it's coming from the filter itself
>What
>Filter feels funny, cannot get it off, no matter how hard I try
>FUCKIT, take it to Mr. Lube at a nearby Wal-mart, since they've provided great customer service before
>They get it off, slap a new one on, bring me the old one
>Filter is half crushed, Jiffy fucking managed to torque so goddamned hard the actual filter itself is crushed
>How
>Why
>For what purpose
>Take it back to Jiffy, drool oil all over their counter
>Call them a bunch of faggots and leave

Local ford dealer quoted a friend of mine $600 to replace his o2 sensors on his '98 contour.

>6 weeks ago
>Car gradually wasn't steering right
>Bring car in for 2nd service since I bought it, they do the whole 9 fucking yards, fluids and all
>Oh boy, rear suspension is fucked, out of good fortune it's literally the only thing not covered by warranty
>Need to replace, get quotes, kinda mad at having to fork out even more money for a car I bought 6 months ago, get quote from Toyota, think they are trying to rip me off
>Nope, the costs are fine actually
>Order suspension through Toyota (and pay outright)
>Friend offered to fit it for free, but I wanted to preserve my warranty in case something fucks up and they blame it on the suspension not being done by them
>Bring car to Toyota for fitting
>That'll be $550 pls
>Find out that specific toyo servicing centre I brought it to doesn't even have an affiliation with the warranty company I'm stuck with
>Need to bring the car for another service at a different place within the end of this upcoming week otherwise I lose my warranty
>Already down close to 1.8k
Fuck.

Now I need to figure out a way to get them service the car to keep it under warranty, but minimise the servicing costs

"O2 sensor" sounds scary and complicated to people who don't know what or where they are.

Did you buy some sort of "extended warranty" on that vehicle?

>2000 jeep tj
>pop and no heat
>mechanic I trust says clogged heater core
>quotes $1800 most all labor
>park it for two years trying to find time and space to DIY
>finally get a damn minute and place
>first thing I try to backflush, figure is a long shot but wth
>core is completely clear

Turns out the water pump fly wheel had grenaded and it was a $70 fix

Friend helped me replace mine yesterday. We were both rather surprised that it was a $180 part for it being a 2002 civic

The mechanics my parents still go to do that, they just throw parts at it until it works. They put the wrong size tire on my dad's van once and I pointed it out. Their response? "It's ok, it will just wear the front end out." Had to argue to get the right size put on and that's the last I ever went there.

>They put the wrong size tire on my dad's van once and I pointed it out. Their response? "It's ok, it will just wear the front end out."

w-what? In what world is that "ok"? I rebuild the front end on my '02 Dodge Ram 1500 recently (new upper control arms, lower ball joints, tie rod ends, shocks, brakes, alignment, etc) and it was a gigantic pain in the ass but only cost me ~$200 using ebay parts when the local repair shops wanted over $800 to do the same job. How is wearing out a front end not an issue when it causes $800 worth of repair costs?

>Post your mechanic scam stories, I'd love to hear them.

Ask that guy who gave his totalled shitbox Jag to a dodgy shop which kept it stationary for TWO YEARS and didn't do any repairs.

$600 sounds fair 2bh

>mom takes her jeep to the dealer to get oil changed
>comes back with a $250 bill

I still don't know what the fuck she was thinking not asking me or my dad before doing that dumb shit

delet this

Yeah, it's got a knack for blowing it's own engine up. I just wanted that covered for a while.

Why get the car in the first place?

I have a good one.
>be me
>have no tools nor auto service experience
>take my car to a mechanic to diagnose a cel and shake under hard acceleration
>they charge me money for a service
Such fucking bullshit.

Cus cheap 2001 mr-s with 65,000km on the clock
I'm pretty sure the precats are already gutted, but I don't dare ask about them in case they want me to 'repair' them, and I have no clue how to reach them from above the car.

water is a product of combustion. There's always moisture in the exhaust.

Jesus Christ. We milk lease cars, we really do since the customer doesn't pay, and neither do we. But if anyone even tried to scam a regular customer this way, he'd be fired on the spot.

>Car is making loud noise and shakes
>Mechanic tells me I need new wheels
>Still shakes and makes noise
>He changes the brakes and it's still broke
>Tells me my muffler and exhaust are really old and worn so I need new ones. Still is broken
>Tells me I need a whole new engine and tranny which will cost 15K
>My car is a 02 civic
>Tell him no thanks
>5 minutes later he calls me back and says good news, it just needs new bearings.

I hope all mechanics burn in hell

When you clear codes all the checks stay reset for 50 or so miles and anyone checking your car with a scan tool can see this.

>start vehicle up on cool day
>water drips out of exhaust for first few minutes because the water vapor from engine combustion condenses on the cool(er) surface of the tailpipe

My dad's tailpipe rusted out on one of his work trucks after 10 years or so because he'd routinely crank it up and drive for less than 1 minute to move it between his two workshops. He went to a local repair place and had them bend up and weld on a new tailpipe for a few bucks when I was little and I remember him telling me that it would've never happened if the vehicle was driven normally since the exhaust system would heat up enough to "burn off" all the excess water once it got up to operating temperature.

Isnt it a product of the catalyst, rather than the combustion itself?

combustion reaction as follows:

Hydrocarbon + atmospheric O2 = CO2 + H2O

>I suppose the managers at JiffyLube cannot resist temptation. They see this endless stream of customers not as people, but as wallets walking in the door. So they feel it is their right to "shoplift" a few dollars from each customers' wallet because the customers can afford it and this is a capitalist society based upon the saying "Caveat Emptor" (buyer beware).

From what I understand, it's due to poor company culture where everyone is pressured from the top down. The regional directors pressure the local managers to meet quota, the local managers pressure employees to meet quotas, etc.

One triggered Jew.

I work at an oil change shop.
Certain employees push engine flushes for any car with a minuscule amount of sludge. Both I and my coworker knows that the engine flush machine eats away seals, but it sells. We also push for new fuel filters and air filters whenever possible. Our synthetic blend costs 67.99 for 5 quarts, full synthetic is 89.99 for 5 quarts, and ultra synthetic is 109.99 for 5 quarts. Ultra is the most popular right next to synthetic blend, yet somehow we get repeat customers that go to us and us only.

We're a fucking scam and it's great.

>Work as a technician for several years
>Try to be as honest as possible
>Notice that other techs are overcharging for easy fixes
>Don't sink to their level and keep repairing cars cheaply.
>Manager comes to me and asks why my hours are so low
>Tell him what's going on, but he responds with "we all have a way to repair" shit, and tells me I need to up my billable hours.
>Quit, go back to school, become engineer.

We aren't all bad, but some shops need to make sure they're turning a profit. so, they sometimes tell you to fix a problem that may or may not be entirely neccessary.

oy vey it's like another shoah

>parked a vehicle for 2 years because of no heat
What

It could be both; I'm not exactly sure what the reaction taking place in the cat is. But is correct, water is a natural product of combustion.

>need engine decarb done on VW
>dealer charges 130 for check engine light and says it will be 800 for the decarb, nothing else included, 1200 with other service.
>laugh and walk out
>local guy does it for under 700, with oil change and alignment

And that was the last time I went to a dealer for service.

>I hate the free market
Fuck off self righteous repressed commie. It's not your workmates' fault that they are smarter than you.

Then explain carbon monoxide and NOx, fucktard.

I paid $1k for a timing belt change for a Sonata.

They then wanted to charge me $300 for a coolant flush even though my car wasn't over heating and wasn't at the mileage interval for a coolant flush, and $60 to replace the fucking cabin filter.

A 100% efficient combustion reaction is hydrocarbon + O2 = CO2 + H2O. Combustion reactions aren't 100% efficient in current ICE designs so you end up with byproducts like CO and NOx. If you piped straight O2 into the air intake instead of atmospheric gasses then you'd get closer to 100% efficiency (speaking from a chemistry standpoint at least). CO and NOx are unwanted by-products.

>I didn't shop around
lol

>We milk lease cars, we really do since the customer doesn't pay, and neither do we.
What do you mean?

Is it because you're reimbursed by the factory?

Should've done the water pump too.

>CO
incomplete combustion

>NOx
non-combustible compounds reacting in the heat and pressure of the combustion chamber. keep in mind that air is ~80% nitrogen, jizzbeard.

But that is a good idea. Doesn't cost extra except for parts usually, and it's a why the fuck not change while we're here kind of job.