Welcome to /POG/, the place to ask questions or shitpost about past, current, or future P-car purchases or work. Or post pictures, you know, whatever.
"What used Porsche can I afford?" (Prices reflect 100% sorted cars)
>Air Cooled 911? $30k+ 964 $50k+ 993
>Water Cooled 911? $20k+ 996 $30+ 996 $60k+ 991
Based 944 >$5000 N/A >$10,000 Tarbo *Disclaimer: You can buy a 944 for under a grand, but the overwhelming consensus in the community is that sorted cars cost ~$5k... so if you buy that car for under a grand when you're done it'll be around or over $5k. YMMV.
>928/968 >$7k - $8k
If you are a regular poster who's car is not included in the OP drop a photo in the thread and remind me to add it to the photo.
Rear-facing baby seat fits in the 991 with full use of the latch system. IE, perfect family car.
Jayden Reyes
Unless your wife is from the planet Amazonia.
Chase Thomas
>having to bend over and reach into the back to get kids in and out every day for years No thanks
Joseph Price
OP, what Porsche (assuming you own one) do you drive?
Jayden Powell
I only have to do it once a week. Not too big of a deal unless you're lolverweight or a manlet. Puts the baby to sleep almost immediately.
Juan Gonzalez
I own an '84 944 that is undergoing track prep, but have driven and worked on my dad's 911's for years. he's currently got a 997S.
A+ user, only plebs need 4 doors
Joseph Brooks
*$30k+ 997
Cooper Hernandez
>What used Porsche can I afford? */POG-USA/
Adrian Cook
So it's not a family car then if you only put a family in it once a week.
Carson Rivera
>$
Lincoln Thomas
What?
Owen Jenkins
YES YES YES!!!
Jaxson Garcia
My least favorite /POG/ thread.
Gabriel Campbell
My least favorite /pog/ poster
Angel Cooper
I only HAVE to do it once a week. We go for fun far more often.
Hudson Scott
Thank you kindly, how do you like the 997 S? Is it a 997.1 or 997.2? Manuel or Notomatic?
Jordan Powell
Should add the Boxsters and Caymans
$7k+ 986 $14k+ 986 S $20k+ 987 (+$2-5k for Cayman) $25k+ 987 S (+$2-5k for Cayman)
Isaiah Rivera
The one for poorfags
I plan on upgrading next year, my options are >987 Cayman S >996 Carrera 4S >Carrera engine swap in my 986 Boxster >Corvette C5 Z06 >Fiata with a tune
Bentley Ward
Thank you.
Tyler Gray
:^)
Ryan Brooks
Crap you're right sorry about that.
You're right, the one for poorfags, but only because it's a track car build. I looked at spec 986 but 2$$4me to prep and race competitively
Chase Taylor
997.1 S with the 3.8 and 6 speed manual.
Genuinely better than the 996 he had, but that's not to say the 996.2 is a bad car. It's just that Porsche paid attention and solved a lot of little issues between those generation.
Best advice I've been given about sports cars is to buy the absolute best you can afford, so instead of the 997.2 carrera he looked at he opted for the 997.1 S with sport exhaust and Chrono package.
Connor Price
Yeah those spec racing costs scare me even though my car is eligible >accusump and deep sump kits are $1500+ >Bilstein suspension overhaul is $3000 >custom fibreglass hardtops match suspension costs
I've seen spec conversions quoted at like $30k when you provide a donor car
Ian Garcia
Exactly. Most people who do the work themselves (aside from the cage) spend around $25k. A winning, log booked spec 944 is at worst $12-$15k to buy turnkey, or $8-$10k to build. So I'll be busy racing that while I save for a 911.
Brayden Parker
Speaking of 986s, why the hell does the 5 speed need this retarded overpriced bit to drain the tranny oil when the more expensive 6 speed uses a regular ass 10mm hex bolt?
Matthew Jones
Porsche loves those triple square bits. I bet your cv's use the same style. I've seen them on 944s and 911s as well.
Austin Rogers
Nice. I was looking at 997.2 S 6MT with SPASM, Sport Chrono, Exhaust, Carrera S wheels, Full Leather, and a few other options, but then I bought a house.
A few months into owning the house I couldn't find a similarly optioned example anywhere, found pic related and was able to get a very reasonable deal on it. Couldn't afford the 991.1 S, they're all $20k over budget and the prices are moving glacially slow.
In a few years I'll probably start looking for a blue 991.1 Targa GTS to replace it provided their prices come down just a bit.
Easton Gonzalez
Two words: German Engineering
Ian Rivera
Oh hell yes, that targa is sexy af
Thankfully Porsche is consistent about updates so in the next couple of years they should come down nicely.
Mason Sanders
Forgot pic
Adam Harris
Any love for the 924s? Or do you guys not consider them Porsches? This is my super humble underpowered german machine.
Aiden Sullivan
My shitbox $200 944 comes in on Friday, im kinda hyped.
Carson Smith
I think a few people here have them, and I believe those VW van engines respond well to modifications
Jaxon Ward
So I've heard, though to be honest I'm not super fussed about the power. (I have a supersports bike). Driving it is just so raw and balanced. Premium delicious drive. I can only imagine how fantastic the 911s and newer models are.
Mason Richardson
Are you restoring it? Or just refurbishing? Pics?
Aiden Baker
If the engine ever decides to give up on life, you could swap it for an Audi I5. You could even go full madman and turbo the fucker.
Daniel Scott
Of course you're welcome here.
Also love the color
Aiden Martin
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Luke Kelly
Most practical sportscar
Wyatt Flores
..is 911.
Joseph Foster
Cayman bruv
Christian Hill
It can carry four humans
Leo Jones
..at least.
Isaac Lewis
Can't carry enough junk in its trunk
Tyler Cruz
True that.
Eli Davis
But there's even more space than in Cayman.
Chase Morales
It's harder to use though, no hatch
Ayden Nguyen
DIS YOURS?
Levi Watson
>implying kids count as humans
Robert Ross
No.
Robert Peterson
>924 Cute. Half a Porsche.
Hudson Bennett
What a douche.
Joseph Bailey
>thinks he's better because he bought a 30 year old Craigslist special Porsche with double cylinders
Tyler Young
>hating on the car Another douche. I was in better thoughts about /pog/.
Zachary Hall
Thats not very nice, m8.
Cool car, though.
Adrian Nelson
I'm hating in the owner for hating on the other car
Adrian Garcia
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Austin Ramirez
This could have been me if I didn't go to school for the summer semester
Jeremiah Turner
Pizza Porsche!!!!
Noah Moore
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Camden Morgan
>putting a can AND the box directly on your paint
user sTOP YOU'RE TRIGGERING ME THE PAINT THE PAINT
Landon Cox
Shiet it's a 996 too, that's another reason for me to buy one
Cameron Carter
Holy shit I didn't even know the 911 had a rear hatch
Evan Gomez
Targas have
Dominic Turner
"Targa"
Robert Collins
What?
Christian Anderson
It's more or less just a big sunroof
Connor Sanchez
Yes, that's what targa is.
Joshua Peterson
Roof isn't removable enough
Carter Jenkins
What? There is no more roof. Go with a convertible then.
Josiah Hall
No
Leo Edwards
>No No
Jace Rivera
>>No >No No
David Cooper
This is one of the less appealing 911's for me. And I like classic 911's. All 911 targas have completely removable roofs.
How hard is it to replace the clutch on a 944? never done such a thing to a transaxle. How long/ what tools does a semi-competent guy like me need?
Adam Perry
Book hours are 16, I would expect to spend a lot of that if its your first time. It's not complicated there's just a lot to do.
Disconnect the transmission in the back and remove, then disconnect torque tube from the bell housing and slide back enough to get the bell housing off to do the clutch. Of course this is one of those "while you're in there" things so check out your torque tube and cv's etc.
Have a look at clarkes garage for a step by step
Jeremiah Watson
One day...
Michael Ortiz
Yup, that's a dent
At $5k that's starting to approach Boxster prices
Colton Phillips
The paint looks damaged. My car had a small dent but the paint was ok so the repair was cheap and it didn't needed any paint job.
Henry Jackson
Not sure if a 944 is similar to a 928. But with a 928, there is no need to move the transmission or torque tube. There is a coupling in the torque tube shaft just behind the bell housing that can be slipped back to clear the clutch. The bottom half of the bell housing can be removed and this gives sufficient clearance to unbolt the pressure plate and remove it and the discs. The flywheel can also be removed. It takes me about 4 or 5 hours lying under my car in the garage, cursing.
Daniel Long
Interesting, when I did it I just pulled the trans because everyone says you have to in order to get the TT out of the way.
928's also have the rear mounted trans right?
I would expect less space on those so I guess it's worth a shot.
Benjamin Rivera
>928's also have the rear mounted trans right?
Yes. Check for that splined coupling just behind the bell housing. And if the bell housing has an access cover on the bottom.
I've never worked on a 944. But they were designed (actually the 924 platform) at the same time as the 928. The 928 clutch is easy to remove. I had to pull mine when it ate the throwout bearing and the release lever pivot ball.
Gabriel Thomas
Have you guys ever had to replace your hood badge? Where is the best place to get a genuine replacement from? Pelican?
Joseph Hill
How you lose your hood badge?
And fleaBay I guess. Find a silver one, they look neat assuming your car isn't also silver
Oliver Butler
The guy I bought it off said he had taken it off many years ago for fear of someone else knicking it and doesn't know where he's stored it. He says he'll keep having a look around for it but I'm not holding my breath.
Silver would look pretty sweet you're right.
Isaiah Gonzalez
Not the other guy, but it could just be chipped or scratched. The colored crests on my wheels are peeling slightly.
Xavier Baker
Don't mind me, didn't refresh quick enough.
Jaxson James
Alright How much would it be to buy a 944 and throw in an engine I can rely on like a 4age
Camden Miller
If you're asking you probably can't pull it off You'll need a custom bell housing, custom wiring, and you'll need to do your own fab work to mount the engine
Take a look at Tom's Turbo Garage videos on the LS3 powered Miata build to get an idea of how much work you really have to do And he did a popular swap that had a kit to make things easier
Caleb Barnes
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Joshua Taylor
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Levi Torres
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Oliver Robinson
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Oliver Adams
>Brake Fluid light's been on the past week in my 944 >Finally get some time to refill it this weekend >Decide to bleed each caliper >Get everything on jacks and pull off rear wheels >Left rear bolt is fucking stripped and I can't open the valve >Realize I'm gonna have to replace it, but that's gonna be a massive bitch seeing as I can't pull it out because again, it's stripped >Right rear >Opens fine >Hook up tube connected to bottle of brake fluid >Old fluid starts coming out >Eventually air bubbles start coming through >Good to know I'm getting air out of the line >Eventually it just starts sucking air back in, no new fluid is coming out, just pumping everything back and forth