Tuning fails

GM fangirl confirmed for triggered

people swap engines, bfd.

There use to be kits for swapping the Chrysler SOHC 3.5L into Porsches. BFD.

the point is the swaps are stupid

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fucking fangirls

>swaps are dumb
Explain why. You've made your claim, now provide something to support it.

For the cost and time you could get more out of the original engine, it's a waste
People do it because they can, not because it's a viable option

>buy older Porsche in good cosmetic shape with blown engine for next to nothing
>swap in cheap Chrysler engine
>get pussy from ignorant, shallow, gold digger types that are attracted to the badge on the car and think you must be kinda rich and successful

Honestly, I could think of worse ways to blow $10k.

you stupid nigger I havent said swaps are dumb

I said LS swaps are dumb

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getting tired of posting it

its a waste of money when the stock engine can do the same or more for less 9/10 times

>being this assmad

Did someone in an exploded Z06 fuck your mother?

>I said LS swaps are dumb
>the stock engine can do the same or more for less 9/10 times

You've made an exaggerated claim. Nothing more to support it. A bit like those ugly fat women who claim 1 in 4 girls will be raped. Are we talking 2JZ-GE, 4G63, K20A, 13B MSP against LSx, or are you just a clueless retard?

epic insults XD

you have to be 18 to post on this site tho just a heads up

not my fault youre stupid

9/10 times in general you dumb fuck

all those would be retarded to get rid of for a ls

>9/10 times in general
>in general

1 in 4 will be raped, 9 in 10 will be shit swaps.

so when you get presented with info you dont like you spout bullshit and post pictures

wew

keep on fangirling

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wow

Do you suppose those headlights are rigged up and still work?

Tuning memes are just stupid pictures made by face book normies who aren't into cars enought to understand what they are talking about...

Kinda like people here except normies with money to buy evos and friends to share stupid memes with.

That's what I'm wondering as well

>Putting a light weight more efficient engine that doesn't need a laggy turbo to make power is bad.

I guess you got fooled by the superior japanese engineering meme.

You forgot, >hurrr durr results on the dyno showing they make more power with a better rev range than little japanese engines dont matter because push rods.

>spending more money for a heavier less efficient engine is good

guess you fell for the LS meme sad that people still are in 2016

14 Year old detected.

The stock engines can make the same power except with more stress on the engine due to it's small capacity and turbo lag due needing huge turbos to do so.

LS swaps are lighter than pig fat 2Js and RB engines and make power without turbo lag.

Deal with it.

Dumb ass 16 year old detected

its like you dont know anything about turbos (oh wait)

I swear all you lsfags think its 1978

turbo lag is almost nonexistent today
even a 1.8 Honda can make 500whp and spool up just fine with no lag

they really arent

stop buying into memes you tard and try to educate yourself instead of relying on memes

Do some research for yourself and find that they are...

I am not even going to argue with the retarded shit you post so just do it.

> turbo lag
Underage bus rider detected

If you think modern V8 are heavy and slow you are the one that thinks it's 1978.

>I am not even going to argue with the retarded shit you post so just do it.

aka

I dont know anything and am talking of my ass

>even a 1.8 Honda can make 500whp and spool up just fine with no lag
At a price. You're going to need a fuckhuge turbo for that and it's sure as shit not going to do that on stock internals for long.

With unlimited funds you could get more out of the stock engine than an LSx. Making it both more powerful and reliable would cost far more. If making a car fast was so simple an eBay turbo would be all you needed to make your beat-to-shit Corolla a Chevy-killer.

Also,

>it's the current year
>educate yourself

Top kek.

>turbo lag isn't a thing
Someone's clearly never driven a car with a TD04. It's completely insignificant in daily driving but noticeable.

> at a price
Far cheaper than what it costs to swap an engine that doesn't belong in there :^)

I don't really feel like doing a whole bunch of googling and fact checking just to prove to someone that alloy LS motors weigh less than 2js.

It's your problem not mine if you wish to stay ignorant..

I am just telling you that the actual facts are out there.

and it still going to be cheaper than swapping a LS1 into it

>If making a car fast was so simple an eBay turbo would be all you needed to make your beat-to-shit Corolla a Chevy-killer.

but thats exactly how it is

we live in an age where 13s and 12s are a cheap kit away

>TD04

80s turbo

get with the times

its like a 100-150 lb difference with transmissions and everything
big whoop just going to a single turbo would take maybe 30 lbs off that

2JZ makes more power
has more potential for more

LS swap a retarded

but then you just take the money you'd waste on a 4banger and invest half into the LS and use the rest on beers and smokes.

could be DDing a 1.5khp beast that has a decent powerband, or a shtbox that has to rev past 7k to make over 200hp then shift at 10k just as it passes 500

> people this stupid post on Veeky Forums

Fuck it I did a quick google because I wasted so much time being a retard and wasting my time replying to someone who actually thinks turbo lag isn't a thing.

rx7club.com/other-engine-conversions-non-v-8-118/stock-vs-ls-vs-2jz-weight-1063061/

Still think the LS weighs so much more than a 2J?

The 2j is still a small engine with turbo lag.

ITT: busracers who will never do what they're talking about
Stop shitting up the thread you fucking retarded cunts neither of you will ever be able to afford a car

you dont even know what turbo lag is holy shit

2JZ is still better and faster

then you have the cringey faggot whos probably in middle school

the fuck are you talking about big turbo = more lag

>the fuck are you talking about big turbo = more lag
That's something you have to deal with if you want more power through FI.

>thread shitted up with the first post

replied to wrong dude I'm a retard
I meant to reply to

Well, at least I got you to realise that an allow LS swap weighs less than a 2J.

Perhaps another day you will realise what turbo lag is.

>not caring about drivability
do you just set the idle around 4/5k?

kek ls454s make over 400ftlb from 1k and you can buy it in a crate.
where does the heavily modified vtaks even make that?

you didnt make me realize anything

if you werent so retarded you wouldve noticed I posted that already (the difference means nothing its so insignificant btw, talk about a waste of money that LS)

maybe one day you will learn since you obviously dont know anything at all

confirmed having never driven a modern turbo car or at least one properly built for it

all you guys do is parrot bullshit

Not who you are replying to but I like vtec motors as well as LS.

I don't understand the appeal of getting too much power out of them though.

I don't mean they can't be fast I just think its better to aim at 150-250 Hp with honda engines rather than squeezing such huge power out of them.

Which is different from your original point of thinking it's heavier than a 2j.

>Turbo lag isn't a thing.

Okay lol.

I should also mention that I am a big fan of Japanese cars particularly ones from the 90s such as s14s..

However I just know that LS swaps aren't the retarded heavy slow things retards make them out to be.

fangirl still mad his engine is bad

LS = Literally Shit

I have a k20 swapped crx.

This cunt and his Suzuki.
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
youtu.be/Zkk7caFGr8w

you're retarded if you think there isn't such thing as turbo lag. Why do you think drifters clutch kick halfway around corners sometimes? they have to let off and then put power back on again.

24 seconds into this vid watch boost guage

youtube.com/watch?v=37k8OITXdcs

You are too young to remember what things were like in that year.

When were you born.

I am guessing 1998?

then why defend a stupid swap?

>spools almost instantly

wew

he flattens it, boost goes about halfway and then he clutch kicks it you fucking downie

Because they make power without lag.

try 49 seconds in

Compare the cost to build/maintain the ls vs the 2jz. You can heads/cam/longtubes the ls7 to 600+wheel.

Its cheap power user. I agree I would never ls swap a supra or rx7 but that doesn't change the fact that a twin turbo ls swapped rx7 will make more power, tons more torque, all while being more reliable, cheaper to maintain, cheaper to rebuilt, and it doesn't sound like a vacuum cleaner.

so can any proper turbo setup

ok

not proving anything but whatever

>Compare the cost to build/maintain the ls vs the 2jz. You can heads/cam/longtubes the ls7 to 600+wheel.

so the 2JZ wins with no competition

ok

Try building a G54B I4 in a Starion. Custom intake for MPI? $500. Custom ECU? $500-1000 and more for tuning. Decent turbo manifold for a T3/T4 turbo? $300. A clutch to contain the power? $450 (Considering you don't swap a T56 in) Injectors? About $3-500. Intercooler and piping? $400. Already we're up to $2450 without shipping and with the cheapest options. Probably would be getting about.... 350 RWHP.

Cost of an LS1? I know a guy who will sell me his for a grand. Custom engine mounts? $200. Custom driveshaft? I don't know, $200? Exhaust, $300

$1700 bucks for an easy 350RWHP, assuming I don't cam it and put better heads on it which will boost that number by a good bit. Good thing I like staying true to the roots, until I screw the block somehow or my balance shafts decide they don't like being where they are.

And don't even get me started on swapping in a 2JZ. That's an obscene amount of money.

this post reeks of underage

That's cheap bolt ons user.....before any boost. What's a na supra put down again?

how does that not prove anything? it is literally showing you turbo lag

you must have an insane sounding vacuum cleaner

like 200hp at the wheels if you're lucky

I'd LS swap my Cordoba if it didn't already have a 360 Mopar in it

Gotta stay true to the roots even if that means I'm only making 260hp

So does this thread

Get fucked cunt.
Sex spec was fucking shit.
Autosalon/Hot4's were fucking terrible magazines.

Why the fuck muzzies and wogs thought it was good is beyond me.

Oh shit I forgot about a decent Garrett ball bearing turbo that makes boost before 4K. $1200.

>turbo lag is almost nonexistent today

yeah guess they use anti lag for no reason I completely trust in some downie from Veeky Forums

yeah no

youre omitting plenty of the LS swap to defend the literally shit damn fangirls

a 4G63 would be better

no its not lol

an LS7 alone is 10 grand

then theres another few thousand for that shit

LS are terrible fucking engines and are popular due to meme status

small mods can make 400whp with stock 2JZ turbos lol

youtube.com/watch?v=e693BH7VVF4

No, just NO!

A junkyard ls1 can make 400+ wheel with bolt ons kiddo.

Go ahead, tell me what else I need to put this LS1 in.

wow what a nice corvette

A junkyard LS1 and transmission is going to be around 3K

so what 5k to make 400whp

lol

its a shit engine that survives on its meme status

hold on while I go buy my 2jz for 2k and a getrag for like fucking 5k+

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for 400whp I could get any old Honda and pull a turbo from a diesel and get it done for like 2k counting supporting mods

LS a shit

leave it to V8fags to project their homosexuality

Anyone who thinks you can swap in a 2JZ for less money than an LS1 is bretty dumb. They're about the same price to swap. Just do what you like and don't worry about what some guy on the internet told you to do because he doesn't like it.

the real question is why do amerilards feel the need to buy a perfectly good automobile with an engine swap.
they could buy a corvette for much less than the price of a supra + LS swap

should I point out a getrag is a gearbox?

>buy a perfectly good automobile with an engine swap
oops I mean RUIN it with an engine swap