/pdg/ - Payday: The Heist and Payday 2 General

>Maniac
>shit
Stop afk'ing in a corner and shoot some cops.

Armorer is a downgrade to both Anarchist and Infiltrator in every way

Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- Diamonds Are Forever (diamonds_are_forever)
- High Times (voff_2)

Keep those helmets flying! ;)

It's a lot like crew chief, it's nice to have one in the group but they're gimping themselves to help everyone else when they'd probably just be better off having a teammate taking a more effective perk deck instead

14th for sexy houston

It's not that much of a gimp in this ridiculous Frenzy meta right now so it's not that bad in my opinion.

Armour damage reduction + 36 extra damage reduction means I can do laps at the top of the mountain base and get all the extra Murky loot bags while snipers keep shooting at me, it's pretty great.

16th for qt sokol

oh man I just love coming back from a along break. Shit tons of mods and broken shits to update/fix

Well I mean even Crew Chief is great with Frenzy right now because Frenzy is busted

>>Perk Deck Guide (out of date,somebody update this shit already):
it already is

Is anyone doing the updated skilltree guide?

I was thinking about doing it if no one else feels like it

Enjoy spending the next three hours trying to figurate what the fuck to do with the new weapon and skill balances.

do you actually know what youre doing
will it be nothing but "pick frenzy to win"

I'd say give it a shot because chances are if you wait around for someone else to do it in a general as dead as this it will never get done

Just wait this week update so we know if frenzy still is king of useless shit

>will it be nothing but "pick frenzy + anarchist + ICTV to win"

ftfy

>update in 12 hours

27th for YEAH

>youtube.com/watch?v=O53PMGrM3HM

28th for more sokol a cute! CUTE!

Why is jacket a part of the PAYDAY gang?
How did he negotiate his way onto the team?
Why would he even join the PAYDAY gang?
Beyond the time discrepancies, I highly doubt 50 blessings would threaten him into heisting, considering what their motives are.
And I seriously doubt he would get into heisting on his own accord. The reason why he even committed the crimes he did, is that he wanted to avenge Beard's death in a way, to get back at the russians. Hell, even when he was killing the cops in Assault (another point, despite assault im pretty sure jacket isnt very keen on killing cops, since after crackdown he only knocks them down on his way out despite being very easily able to kill them. im pretty sure the only reason why he kills cops in Assault was to get to richter for revenge and information)) he was doing it with a russian-killing motive in mind.
Also what the fuck is that tape recorder bullshit? Like I know they didn't want to force a voice on him, but god damn it's canon that he can speak

also another thing that falls under time discrepancy, jacket's fucking dead and the world is nuclear rubble

and jacket fucking hates russians, why would he ever work with one, and why would he ever take orders from one

Not canon.

Dragan is Croatian, slav not Russian.

Sokol is totes Canadian now ;)

I know it's not canon, but it's so fucking stupid. Every other character is fucking canon except for maybe Wick and maybe Jimmy. Even though it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for Jimmy to be in the PAYDAY gang, it at least makes sense why HE would be A working with them (to secure the EMP and get into the lab) and B why he'd do it (because he's very much against Akan, and the whole exploring-different-personalities-with-avatars thing). Can't say anything about Wick, need to actually watch that movie.
But boy, Jacket has absolutely 0 reason to even exist outside of being a fucking advertisement

>Can't say anything about Wick, need to actually watch that movie.
Movie doesn't have anything about it.

It's just purely the Chains trailer. Wick wanted a crew, accidentally blew Chains' cover, then asked for a job.

I mean sort of like, judging from the movie, if he would ever actually become a heister. Jacket most likely fucking wouldn't, Jimmy probably would (but I'm also pretty sure coked out whore house jimmy wouldn't be the avatar he would choose), and I don't know about Wick

source?

Secret serious sources

So you pulled it out your ass, thanks.

>there will never be an actual Kawaii Character Pack
>will never spread my toxicity through the entire playerbase
Can I transfer my money to another bank that won't be robbed?

Fuck you

What the fuck is up with all the new players all of a sudden?

>The reason why he even committed the crimes he did, is that he wanted to avenge Beard's death in a way, to get back at the russians.
No, it's because he liked hurting other people
Get that Hotline 2 shit out of my face

What was wrong with Hotline 2?

Besides windows HOLY FUCK FUCK WINDOWS

>tfw it's not even a free-weekend

I don't see how people are so afraid of this game going full Free 2 play, it's not like we didn't have already the horde of shitters at our gate and hackers doing whatever they want.

Would you this as an epic skin /pdg/ ?

>Players can now use First Aid Kits and Doctor Bags when at full health
So why do they encourage griefing all of a sudden?

So instead of just putting frenzy back to what it use to be, I think they nerf'd it into the ground if you wanted to use self healing stuff with it like infiltrator.

Frenzy: Basic now receives 10% less damage taken instead of 30% health damage
Frenzy: Aced now receives 25% less damage taken instead of 60% health damage and healing received is now

Frenzy fags BTFO

Time to git gud

Also time to update the Skill Tree guide now that the nerf hammer fell

Hahah get fuck frenzy shitters

Frenzy: Aced now receives 25% less damage taken instead of 60% health damage and healing received is now reduced to 0% from 50%

>The RPK Light Machine Gun can now use grips from Gage Courier Mod pack

So where were you when the brenner-21 was cucked to oblivion ?

I used it before they broke it, I liked that it was able to get me down low enough to proc berzerker and I could absorb some damage because of the reduced health damage if my armor did break out in the open.

>It took them this fucking long to fix the detection bug with bags

>Big Oil , On day 2, made the engine bags lighter
WEW

Fuck the KSPfags

Overkill doesn't know how to reasonably balance anything. They just nerf whatever they deem overpowered until it's unusable. You should know this by now.

I just don't get why they didn't return frenzy to how it was before. It was fine how it use to be.

>just don't get why
Because it's Overkill.

>Overkill doesn't know how to reasonably balance anything. They just nerf whatever they deem overpowered until it's unusable.
Doesn't help that the retards on the Steam forums and Reddit relentlessly bitch non-stop about how OP the FOTM tactic is instead of just asking for proper fixes.

It wasn't though, the reason Frenzy was changed to reduce also armour damage was because it didn't reduce health damage properly and actually made damage units proc multiple times a hit or something.

So they moved the damage reduction to a different layer in the system. The multi-hits disappeared but they couldn't separate the damage reduction from armour so instead of fixing the system they just went "IT'S A FEATURE!"

The fact that Frenzy is now going to stay as an armour damage reduction perk means that it will be like Grinder where somebody will always find a reason to call it OP.

Payday 2 balance is pretty fucked.

Thanks Starbreeze.
Thanks OVERKILL.

>I just don't get why they didn't return frenzy to how it was before. It was fine how it use to be.
>removing more than 60% of your health for a damage reduction that would only apply for the rest of it,

If you were using the muscle perk deck, sure it can get some "uses" as a berserker user to compensate the loss of health but even then it was too fucking expensive for what it was worth.

The nerfed version we have right now is okay although it's really on the edge of being bad.

Am I misunderstanding you guys or did they finally nerf Frenzy?

I use to run it with gambler to keep myself healed and give the teammates the pretty much full benefit of gambler every time because I would have the lowest health.

What are you, fuckin stupid?

>The fact that Frenzy is now going to stay as an armour damage reduction perk means that it will be like Grinder where somebody will always find a reason to call it OP.

Since it's only 25% damage reduction for the aced version (instead of the old 60%) and you still have to spend a lot of points to get it, people will get more the feeling it's balanced unlike grinder since any level 0 shitters could get the full bonuses easily.

>Players can now use First Aid Kits and Doctor Bags when at full health
>Players can now use First Aid Kits and Doctor Bags when at full health
>Players can now use First Aid Kits and Doctor Bags when at full health
>Players can now use First Aid Kits and Doctor Bags when at full health
>Players can now use First Aid Kits and Doctor Bags when at full health
>Players can now use First Aid Kits and Doctor Bags when at full health
>Players can now use First Aid Kits and Doctor Bags when at full health

Doc Bags I can understand but FAKs?

Why?

Do Doc Bags even check if you are downless?

I just don't understand how devs can be so bad at this shit.

They should have made it so you can always use Medikits if you are black and white

That change was moronic otherwise

K, so jules just confirmed that you get the full benefit from healing with frenzy aced. It's not reduced healing anymore.

Time to try it out with lbv grinder then.

How quick do you think the goonmod guys will update?

inb4 patch dosent touch any of the fucked weapon animations as per usual

>run

fuck off

I just woke up, where are these patch notes?

What, did he proc you?

I wonder if they have any animators left who weren't sniped for the Walking Dead or Dead by Daylight games.

>payday 2 birthday in a few days

sale coming soon?

Here you go you lazy son of a Wick
store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/steam_community_announcements/252584970555376917

The same place they always are idiot.

>1 GB of bug fixes
>still no arms and legs hit boxes

JUST

>aiming anywhere other than the head

Yes, for sure.
D-did they?

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Just harass him on his twitter or steam profile page.

Heisters,

We’re live with Update 105.2!

Update 105.2 changelog

Update size: 1GB

General
>Gadgets will now remain activated when switching between weapons!
>Fixed an issue where car windows couldn’t be broken from both sides
>Changed description for ECM Jammer to reflect the correct duration time
>The secondary deployable will now be shown in the inventory screen
>Fixed an issue with the outline on traded converted enemies
>Fixed an issue where bags could not be interacted with when a painting had fallen over them
>Fixed issues with the ammo cost when deploying and picking up Sentry Guns
>Made some critical mission notes readable when on low texture settings
>Players can now use First Aid Kits and Doctor Bags when at full health
>Fixed a crash when a friendly AI tried to target the SWAT Van Turret
>The sentry gun will no longer fire at a cop in the early stages of domination
>Fixed so that it is now possible to deploy the bipod during the inspect weapon animation
>Fixed a crash that would occur when a money stack with a Sentry Gun deployed on it was picked up
>Fixed outlines on Cloakers not displaying correctly when moving too far away
>Added collision to cop cars to prevent player to accidentally get inside of them
>Fixed an issue where cop’s guns would not spawn correctly
>Fixed an issue where player’s weapons would not show correctly if swapping weapons while in shooting position in a car
>Fixed an animation issue when killing cops that are repelling with fire damage
>Optimized the way steel sight automatic marking works
>Disabled Cloaker attacks on a player in swansong state
>Recoil animation will now play properly when enemies are moving and firing
>Fixed an issue where enemies would not take any explosive damage if standing inside of each other
>Fixed an issue where clients could duplicate the Sentry Gun
>Fixed an issue where Captain Winter’s Phalanx would spawn wrong helmets if killed by a headshot

Anyone else having trouble with concealment?

After the update came out, I went from 3 concealment before the update to 9 concealment after.

Seriously what the fuck???

i'd go with 20%B/35%A

>Fixed an issue during stealth where Sentry Guns would continue firing even when broken
>Fixed an issue with detection while carrying bags
>Fixed an issue when having the armor bag equipped. The armor initialization values would still use the equipped armor. This was present until the armor will regenerate for the first time
>Updated the German, Spanish and Italian translations
>Fixed an issue where clients could be tased while inside vehicles
>Fixed an issue where you would get stuck in tased state if looking through a security camera while getting tased
>Fixed an issue where the team AI would remain in stealth state when going loud too quickly
>Fixed an issue where the amount of Suppressed Sentries would be shown incorrectly in loadout

Levels

General
>Changed the contractor video for the Meltdown, Goat Simulator, Santa Workshop, Aftershock, The Diamond, Hoxton Revenge, Birth of Sky and Beneath the Mountain heists.

Biker Heist
>Fixed an issue where players were able to lockpick certain doors that were not supposed to be lock picked
>Removed a defense waypoint icon that wrongly appeared over Mike during certain objectives
>Fixed a helicopter that would not despawn correctly
>Added a collision to prevent players getting stuck behind a shopping cart outside the clubhouse
>On day 2, moved some boxes in the train that players could get stuck behind
>Fixed an issue where additional loot from day 1 would not be added in the payout on day 2

Counterfeit
>During stealth, the level now automatically goes loud when the player blows open the safe
>Added a yellow outline on printed counterfeit money stacks

Hoxton Revenge
>Fixed an issue where the front doors collision would remain if blown open by explosives.

Shadow Raid
>Fixed an issue where civilians could not be moved into the camera room

Cook Off
>Fixed an issue where enemies could move through a shed door

Golden Grin Casino
>Synched cut animation speed to correspond to drill time when BFD is upgraded
>Fixed an issue where debris from skylight would get stuck in mid air after being destroyed by the BFD
>Fixed some cameras that were facing walls

Art Gallery
>Fixed an issue where you could get paintings stuck under cars

Undercover
>Fixed an issue where some of the bigger cardboard boxes would shoot out feathers when hit

Boiling Point
>Fixed an issue where players could get into the compound by jumping over the wall
>Aligned the drill position on certain doors to match keyhole position
>Increased the collision of wood piles to hinder player getting stuck inside the collision
>Moved a can of paint that would appear inside of a log

Firestarter
>Added collision to metal beams sticking out of hangar roof
>On day 2, fixed an issue where one of the windows at the front entrance was unbreakable
>On day 2, fixed an issue where some guards could not be marked during stealth

Goat Simulator
>On day 1, increased the escape zone trigger for the car
>On day 2, removed a hiding location where the cops couldn't find the player

First World Bank
>Fixed an issue where a part of the vault entrance roof was missing collision

Hoxton Breakout day 2
>Fixed issue where you could pick up the servers through walls
>Aligned collision on certain walls and pillars
>Moved a Gage packet that could spawn on the same location as a keycard

Big Oil
>On day 2, made the engine bags lighter

Framing Frame
>On day 3 moved a door to align better with the floor

Street Escape
>Fixed an issue where enemies could move through a wall

Alesso
>Fixed an issue where bags could be thrown through a gate in the basement

Skills
>Removed an extra line for the cost of buying skills in the skills menu
>Fixed an issue where Second Wind: Basic would also give the Second Wind: Ace skill
>Fixed an issue where the saw wouldn't benefit from the Bullet Storm skill.

what's the mask bottom right?
I tried googling payday 2 predator mask

>Fixed an issue where the Close By: Basic skill would trigger on all weapons if interacting with bags
>Captain Winters and his Phalanx are no longer affected by the Heavy Impact skill
>Fixed an issue with the armor bag not working properly when using Jack of all Trades: Aced
>Inspire: Basic now shows correct value of increased speed of revive in description
>Frenzy: Basic now receives 10% less damage taken instead of 30% health damage
>Frenzy: Aced now receives 25% less damage taken instead of 60% health damage and healing received is now reduced to 0% from 50%
>Fixed an issue where it was not possible to mark SWAT Vans when using High Value Target: Ace
>Third Law: Basic now reduces the cost of deploying sentry guns with 5%
>Eco Sentry: Basic now reduces the cost of deploying sentry guns with 5%
>China Puff will no longer trigger Lock ’n Load: Aced
>Stockholm Syndrome: Aced can now activate automatically if all players are in custody, at least one player has the skill but has not used it yet and at least one hostage remains on the level
>Stockholm Syndrome: Aced can now use hostages taken after the player entered custody
>Stockholm Syndrome: Aced is no longer usable in stealth
>Stockholm Syndrome: Aced no longer shows a trade prompt for other players when used
>Stockholm Syndrome: Aced skill now triggers correctly during assault
>Stockholm Syndrome: Aced prompt now appears correctly for the player when the skill can be used
>Stockholm Syndrome: Aced will now trade the player who has the skill and not the one that spend the longest time in custody
>Stockholm Syndrome: Aced now only works for players with the skill
>Fixed an issue where Equilibrium: Ace was not applied
>Fixed an issue where Optical Illusions: Ace would apply to all weapons

Sound
>Hitting a vehicle or a Sentry Gun with a melee attack will now play the correct sound
>Increased bullet hit sound max distance from 20m to 40m
>Fixed an issue where the drill’s break sound would play indefinitely when upgraded by clients
>Improved the weapon sound balance

Steam Market
>Removed drill counter on free safes in the steam inventory

Weapons
>Microphone Stand will now be properly aligned when charging
>Tweaked first person camera for the Akimbo Compact-5 and Akimbo Krinkov
>The RPK Light Machine Gun can now use grips from Gage Courier Mod pack
>Fixed an issue with accuracy not being correct with shotguns while aiming down sight while using steel sight

Perk Decks
>Fixed the description of Maniac: Excitement to show the correct amount of damage conversion amount

Achievements
>Fixed an issue where "Healer-Tank-Damage-Dealer" achievement required 10 points in every subtree
>Fixed an issue where community grenade would not be counted towards the progress for the "Fire in the Hole" achievement

Hope you’re having a great summer!

Looks like Mega Kevin.

So with Frenzy nerfed, what's the new perk deck of the month? Anarchist still good or was it only viable because of its Frenzy synergy?

Depends on whether 25% damage reduction is shitcan tier or still good.

I just tried it after the update and it isn't that good as it used to be before. Back to ICTV + Muscle.

ictv with frenzy and muscle perk deck might still be usable

>more health with a skill that reduces your health
I don't get it.

quick fix ace. get the DR from faks without having to break your armor/take damage first.

Chugging FAKs just for the damage reduction.

That's just its own tier of special right there. Goddamn.

I heard that sentries now use common ammo pool. I guess it's time to refund my 42 skill points.

Well if you already have a FAK lying on the floor and you know you'll never come back for it, at least you'll get some DR from it