A family friend of mine is selling her '96 prelude.. It's only had two owners, both have babied the car. Car's got 160k miles. Only thing she knows it needs for sure is new struts, but the original owner bought the car lowered from the factory so I'm not sure if thatll mess up anything if I were to DIY the struts. I've only ever done oil changes and replaced an alternator/timing belt, so I'm not certain on how hard replacing struts would be.
Would this be a good investment to fix up and sell at a later date? Only preludes in my area are in much worse condition or modified, and are priced higher as well. I could probably get the car for around 1700.
can it drift? no. it's the wrong honda for that Can it race? No. It's heavy, it's FWD, and it's the wrong honda for that. Can it rally? No, it's Honda.
GG OP
Sebastian Torres
That is pretty sexy. Is the prelude a good time to drive? Its got about 30 more HP than my current DD but weighs around 400 pounds more as well
Liam Cox
For all intents and purposes I wasn't planning on drifting nor racing nor rallying the car. Just fixing what needs fixed, driving it a bit and reselling to (most likely) a teenage buyer for some profits, but more importantly the ezperience
Mason Cooper
Fuck off Corey.
Ayden Sullivan
because the 5th gen is ass
Brody Miller
what trim is it OP? Si? DOHC VTEC?
Charles Morris
I owned a 4G Prelude for 8 years (SI-non VTEC) the best bucket seats from factory I've ever had in a car the 2.3L engine, despite not being VTEC, has this wonderful wail when in the top 1000RPM weight balance is 60/40, not bad at all for an FF. can get some nice lift off oversteer gas milage is horrible 21MPG on a 4 banger switch the exhaust to stainless if you live in the north main relay has a tendancy to fail at high milage
John Clark
Can i make my prelude as good as the JUN one or even better? Everyone hates Prelude drivers >do you even want a 50/50 weight distribution on fwd
Carson Rogers
you can if you swap whatever engine you have to an F20B, they were built for high revs, and is basically a destroked H22A
only on the DOHC VTEC trim, not all 4th gen trims had the H22a, like said he had the non-vtec Si, which was probably powered by the H23 non Vtec, but the F20B produces more power than an H22A (200 vs 190) and the sleeves are iron as opposed to FRM sleeves which are known to eat piston rings, also the F20B is better for boost even though the deck is open mainly due to the thick iron sleeves
Kevin Evans
Why not just get an EF-EG-EK Civic and engine swap it?
F22A1 is number 1
Ryan Flores
why are f20b swaps so insanely cheap? the full deal everything you need swap +ecu +tranny is a fraction of any b series or h22
Angel Gomez
I think this particular prelude has the 2.2. Shame. What is lift off oversteer? It seems like great fun on some curvy roads. Is the main relay an expensive fix?
Unfortunately I don't think its an Si nor VTEC model
Jonathan Watson
Because OP was asking about the sweet deal he was getting on a 4th gen Lude, thats why I brought up the F20B because it's literally a drop-in, also >F22A1 is number 1 nigga plz
Henry Wright
because hardly anyone in the US knows about it, it wasnt sold in North America, doesn't have domestic market parts here(well technically it does because almost anything that fits an F or H will work on it), which means almost no demand, and the stupid rumor that a Honda can't handle because it literally weighs only 70 lbs more than a B series
Alexander Williams
Sorry my mind wandered off, I was just wondering what the Prelude offered that you couldn't get from the much lighter Civic hatch in an F20B / racecar set up.
If you're planning engine swaps before you buy the car, why not get the car with the lightest curb weight and shortish wheelbase that's smaller? Then again I've never seen a fourth gen Prelude in real life.
William Lee
>not dropping in Honda's god-tier engine from the Honda Odyssey
Brayden Evans
>Unfortunately I don't think its an Si nor VTEC model
thats perfect, hopefully they are offering a rock bottom price so you have enough cash leftover for a swap
better interior, its generally a more comfortable car, sure its a bit heavier, but some of them also had 4WS, which is the reason why it dominated a shit ton of sports cars in comparison tests when it was released >never seen a 4th gen pic related
a J series? why? talk about a heavy fucking engine
Michael Long
>which is the reason why it dominated a shit ton of sports cars in slalom tests when it was released
fixed
Landon Green
4WS is rare though, and in a hypothetical racecar set up you wouldn't give a shit about comfort. Is the chassis better or something? It's weight probably just comes from the slightly more luxury than an late old 80s Civic.
In that shot it looks a bit like an ITR actually.
Ryan Jackson
Lift off oversteer is when you let off the gas in a corner in an FF, causing a weight shift. it will allow for oversteer despite not being RWD. Main relay is a simple fix, just pop out and replace a little brown box in the footwell on the driver's side. When it fails, the engine won't just fail to start, but might even fail and turn off the car while driving. Replace as soon as you think it's sputtering due to electronics, it might hurt other components as it fades in and out while dying. Pretty sure it killed my fuel pump.
Carter Stewart
they are rare, especially in N America, they were an option on Si models only and were only available from 92-95 in the 4th gen again, OP isnt talking about a racecar setup chassis is basically a better Accord Coupe's, and yes it is good
Ian Wood
Lift off oversteer kills speed. Try to counter steer and the back end will hook back up instantly and you will whip back in the other direction. It's not graceful or fun.
> source: owned a prelude
Jace Nelson
Oh FUCK OFF ITS NOT AN ACCORD ITS NOT AN ACCORD!!
Liam Brown
Stock it only ever did good in slaloms. Mod for mod lighter cars are superior. If you going to engine swap get a civic. If the prelude has an h22 then just stick with it.
Parker Perez
And an MX-6 is not a 626, a Calibra is not a Vectra and an MX-3 is not a 323.
Caleb Walker
yes, it is a handful when it begins to oversteer. I found it fun if you need a last bit of rotation on turn exit, but it requires attention and behaves very differently depending on fuel level.
Jayden Gutierrez
desu the 4g prelude is probably the one that diverged the most form the accord chassis to the point where idk if id call it accord
Bentley Jackson
how about the owner can do whatever the fuck he wants with his car? he came asking if it was a gud kar and yes it is and i just gave him a taste of what he can do with it, he already said its the non-VTEC model, so guess what, if he wanted more power he would have to engine swap, FFS pay attention
Sorry bruv, but it kinda is
Liam Rogers
>the only thing that matters is curb weight
Gavin Thomas
I am paying close attention to the autism in this thread. OP can make whatever stupid decisions he wants to. You are making me glad I sold my prelude with your delusional banter.
Eli Moore
Honda threads always get autistic when engine arguments start.
Mason Adams
Two cars that are almost exactly the same. One has 4ws and the other is 500 lbs lighter. I had fucking 4ws and it helped BARELY in sweeping corners and parking lots. I know what the fuck I'm talking about user.
Jaxon Parker
>autism if anyone is being autistic it's you when you keep bringing up getting civics over a Prelude which is not what OP was asking about you fucking sperg
and im glad you sold your lewd as well because you sound like a faggot
Gavin Martinez
nigga you're arguing civic vs prelude
Anthony Wilson
Same engine swap civic is lighter, so yes.
Tyler Rodriguez
didn't the 3G prelude have optional mechanical 4WS? I head that was weird to drive.
Lincoln Bell
it did, on some of the Si models with the B21A engine
Dominic Ramirez
>the only thing that matters is curb weight
Kayden Clark
and how do you know that OP is trying to build a fucking race car? you don't you fucking mong, he probably wants a comfy touring coupe with a bit of power
Henry Harris
>Honda threads always get autistic ftfy
Ian Perry
good post
Kevin Collins
that's not what I want though and Im considering a prelude
Lucas Ross
then don't get a prelude
Hudson Price
OP here I appreciate all the responses about how to make it go fast. Unfortunately my budget doesn't extend very much past the cost of the car and some minor repairs. I was just hoping to take it off a friend's hands so they wouldn't have to deal with selling it on Craigslist. I'd then drive it around a bit, gain some wrenching experience then probably sell it, seeing as it isn't a model with a particularly special engine From what I'm seeing though, 1,700 would be a decent price for the vehicle? I reckon if all the noticeable problems are fixed I could flip the car for at least 2,500
Easton Sanchez
Why? it seems good though, I don't understand why you're so determined for the Prelude to not be a race car and you keep saying it's bad.
Parker Robinson
too heavy FWD
Dominic Cruz
enjoy it while you have it, could probably get more than 2,500 for it though
I never said it's bad, im just stating a fact that its not a racecar
FUCK OFF COREY
Owen Price
Why isn't it a race car
Hunter Morgan
because it isnt geared to be a racecar, unless you get a model with the H22A in it then it barely can be considered a sports car. Then you have the autists who think weight is the only thing that matters, but you know what, its more of a race car than a civic is
Nicholas Brown
>sports car >fwd pick one
Oliver Roberts
Geared as in gears or geared as in equpment/loadout
cause there's this 94 prelude with an h22a man are you me?
Charles Thomas
geared as in gears, i mispoke in my post, i meant that if it didnt have an H22A than it can be barely considered a sports car >94 Lude w/ an H22A you in VA?
Jacob Rogers
again, FUCK OFF COREY
Alexander Gray
The only bad part is its paint, definitely peeling everywhere and the car's been keyed a couple times. Thing is like 12 different shades of silver. I figured that would hurt its resale by a bit
Juan Clark
damn, how many people did your friend piss off
Adam Howard
>VA No It's an H22 swapped 94 prelude. I suppose it's worthless? Bad gearing. I guess it is a bad car. I got so excited
Evan Nelson
no, thats not what I said, I said that if it isn't a model with the H22A and matching trans then it's not really a sports car, I would buy a Lude with an H22A
Carson Johnson
Fuck me man, why does everything in my life have to be so shit
Ryder Ortiz
what the fuck are you on about?
Lincoln Hernandez
My life, for yours
Noah Howard
I think that was all from the first owner. She parks it in her garage ever since she's had it
David Cooper
if lighter weight is all that matters, why did the JUN prelude beat out the s2k and multiple civics?
Thomas Thomas
>her
Nicholas Murphy
you're a fucking idiot, buy it >racking accident kek
first owner sounds like quite the dick
Kevin Harris
>telling people to buy bad riced cars with shit """""swaps"""""
Jacob Jones
how is it a shit swap? how is a front lip and 50 series sidewall tires rice?
Brody Clark
>drilled rotors >assuming the swap is done right >put the pucci in your bagino
John King
>drilled rotors didn't see that, ok that's rice >assuming the swap is done right well i'd hope the user who posted the ad had enough sense to test drive it >put the pucci in your bagino oh you
Jaxon Roberts
Get the fuck out of here
Liam Bailey
What's wrong with drilled rotors? How can you tell if an engine swap is good? >test driving cars No way no luxury here.
Sebastian Torres
drilled rotors compromise the integrity of the rotors, and can cause cracking
You can tell if the engine starts and hits VTEC when its supposed to and shifts like it's supposed to, also inspecting the motor mounts underneath
what do you mean it's a luxury? if you can`'t test drive it don't buy it
Nathaniel Walker
M I A M I I A M I
Julian Davis
Preludes are great cars, go for it. Sub 2k is a steal. Just be careful when you start getting to driving fast (after your driving skill improves) every prelude owner I've ever met ended up wrecking it.
Zachary Williams
>everyone says the prelude has a very long wheel base in every video I see >check >its smaller than a civic up to the EF >smaller wheelbase than most "real" sports cars I don't understand?
Brody Russell
this, the car can be tricky to drive on the edge compared to hot hatches. But when you get gud, damn it's fun for an FF. also, word of warning: the car's wide wheels for the weight make it hydroplane like a motherfucker unless you have good tire for wet conditions.
Benjamin Collins
people don't like 2+2 cars, "it's not a real sports car"
Austin Powell
>the original owner bought the car lowered from the factory
I'm pretty certain that a lowered suspension was never a factory option for any prelude (or any honda even)
Henry Nguyen
it's called "it sags but I had it aligned"
Justin Ramirez
but the 300ZX came in 2+2 and it's a real sports car
Oliver Kelly
3rd gen prelude is best prelude
Adrian Rogers
RWD cars are exempt from many criticisms because dorifto
Gabriel Watson
>top engine has 145hp
that's profiling yo
Brayden Ward
das riceist!
Caleb Lopez
It's just weird to make comments on how big it is when it's actually on the smaller side of the spectrum. It's so small normies biggest complaint with the 4G was it's size, which is why we got the massive 5G.
Nathaniel Rodriguez
das it mane
Thomas Sanders
handling > speed
Jace Cruz
4G was comfy as fuck, felt like you were touching the road must have scared people to have so much control and feeling
Benjamin Hall
>
Camden Ramirez
>DRILLED ROTORS
Luis Torres
>accidently turnning your shitbox DD into a real sports car what the fuck JUN el oh el
Joshua Sanchez
which engine and transmission?
if its got a H22A and its manual, do it man.
if its a H22A its worth it.
Colton Carter
I'm
Xavier Powell
id buy it. but id only pay 2000. and thats ONLY if the paint is good. Its nothing special and it has issues.
but the h22a and the chassis are good. but, id be hooning in it for shits and giggles.
Jason Garcia
What issues ? Wow you're so smart. I doubt I can get 1000 dollars off.