Alicesoft/Rance General

It'd be a little silly to start with VI when you have the game chronologically prior to it available

it's not silly to ignore a shitty game to play one that is actually good

yeah the threads on /v/ already had frogshit and cuck memes
fuck

Except 5D is a short fun game and most people don't know what to expect with it

If you start with 5D and don't like it you would stop playing and move on to VI. Unless you hate Rance's character, rape, etc, but this series wasn't for you to begin with if that's the case.

No real point just stopping when it's such a short and really easy game.

It could be a case of something like SR, where you play VI first (or play 5D, not like it and move on to VI), loved it and then go back and play 5D after you endeared yourself to the characters.

I personally couldn't stand the gameplay and left it there. It's the only Rance game I didn't play, aside from the original I and II.

I think most people would play 5 before 6, most people don't even know SR is 7.

I really don't understand how people have issues with 5D, it's literally 2 hours long and if you don't like RNG you can just cheat by using the save files as save states

The original I is crazy short though. I remember playing it, finishing it and finding out the bonus scenes with Patty (and possibility other things). With no save except for the one in the climax when you're chasing down Lia, I replayed the whole game in 15-30 minutes.

Seto Kaiba Rance is best Rance too.

Better to play 01 or read the digest

>Seto Kaiba Rance is best Rance too.

I swear you've been here for years calling him that.

For those that don't know moon, the Ova is the best option really.

I dun geddit.

Is the joke "Screw the rules, I have dick"?

But most of the western fanbase for Rance (or at least /haniho/) is built on playing SR first, loving it and then going back to play the other games that came before though.

Even if 5D was intolerant at first, or they read the description and figured that they could start with VI, they might go back to 5D after finishing VI.

Not the only one that did that, but might the only one left.

Well /haniho/ knows the events of 5D which is the important part, It makes the Rizna and Feliss parts in VI so much better if you've read 5D first.

The joke is Rance I Rance looked more like Seto Kaiba than Rance. Hence the affectionate nickname for that version of Rance.

>Feliss in VI
can't wait to blast ontology wailing

I call Rance I's Rance that way all the time too.

I call him that and I just join the conversation.

KANAMI

We were on page 7 user.

Come to think about it, is the Rance VI we're going to buy the patched version? The only notable changes that I can remember are Alex's lvl cap increase and I think something about the presents?

Apparently it just won't have in the Sat-chan patch.

I just wanted to be useful again user

There are many minor bugs and what not. They went up to patch 1.05 afterall.

You're not needed anymore Kanami.

What about Semen demon-chan?

>I don't see why ignorance of people not knowing to correct pronunciation has to do with anything
Correct pronunciation under what standards exactly? English? Japanese? My sloppy ESL brain had me read Gele as ゲレ for a while. Considering that the closest english word that I know is gale, I've always been torn about that name's pronunciation. Is it ギール? ジェイル? How is anyone who's never read the katakana supposed to know

On the other hand, Jill and Eisel are actual names and everyone in the world knows how to pronounce those, or can look them up, plus ジル and アイゼル are their semi-official transcriptions. Wanting to call them gelatine and hi there just makes no fucking sense

They've already confirmed it's compatible at least. None of the content would be TL'd but hey.

As a fellow ESL, I've also always pronounced Gele as ゲレ, and Lia as ライア.

>Next thread
>back to being dead edition

A huge number of names aren't immediately obvious how to pronounce, so I don't see why that's enough reason to change the name.

Maybe if there was better alternative it wouldn't be as bad, but the fact that Jill is an actual name is exactly what's wrong with it. Gele is an interesting fantasy name. Jill is a boring name you'd expect from a coworker, not an "archfiend".

>Autists like this calling the translators autistic.

On the other hand, Gele was just a regular girl, not an "archfiend". I'm okay with either personally.

Why were you /v/ to begin with?

I thought that was every /v/ thread.

Goddamn, how am I supposed to beat the machines in Magic's tower in Rance VI? They just wrecked the absolute fuck out of me with the lightning.

I don't know if I should just spoiler everything Rance VI related from now on.

You're not supposed to beat them, run away.

Since they're upscaling, wouldn't her sprite be undersized too? Either way, it shouldn't be that much content to translate should it?

Kinda don't care if I haven't played Daiakuji.

On that note, anyone here who has? I've got extremely basic moon, and I wonder if that's enough to try tackling it.

Mostly, Gele just bothers me because the name of her era is GL. If you keep Jill, rename it to JL. If your worried about pronunciation, call her Gel. Keep things consistent at least. That sort of thing stands out like a sore thumb and brings up more questions and inconsistencies than anything else, which I think is the worst thing you can do as a translator or with nameshit. That's why that change bothers me more than JAPAN or Archfiend.

That... actually does make a lot sense. I guess I don't mind the name as much considering her origin.

Maybe it's just because it's what I'm used to, but I still prefer Gele though. And I don't think people not knowing how to pronounce it is reason enough to change it.

Aru mentioned on twitter they plan on changing the era names as well.

>which I think is the worst thing you can do as a translator
The worst thing you can do as a translator is make an incorrect translation that says something completely different to the original source, which is more common than it should be.

I'm just going to be a dick and confuse new people by refusing to budge and forever talking about Demon King Gele.

Fair enough. But I put creating inconsistencies and -pointless- name changes is on the list. I find Gele to be the latter.

She's in one game though, and the rest is mostly background info, to my knowledge, so I'm not going to care too much. I'll keep calling her Gele on my own.

She makes an indirect appearance in VI though.

Pretty sure we're all going to have names that we stick to out of stubbornness or out of habit.

I was confused about this too so I watched an LPer fight them where the guy had OP overlevelled characters and managed to beat them, and then he got super confused when Rance ran away anyway.

That is the Leila fag

>If you're worried about pronunciation, call her Gel
Is there anyone who wouldn't pronounce gel as ジェル?

If you're worried about pronunciation, call her "shut up and suck my dick, you brainless slut"

I'll admit that Gele looks kind of esoteric but please, please drop the Ithere

No

Make me.

Well I guess I can always filter posts

Ithere is 'official' anyway.

As long as everyone understands what name someone is using we should just use whatever name

Well, at least that's what the villagers called her.

While they were gangraping her.

And before they de-limbed her and smash her breasts with rocks.

I'm just autistic and I want everyone to use the same name whether it's something that I like or not

What's the "better" translation for Ithere? Aether or something?

That already didn't happen.

What was Aru's "fix" for Ithere in KR? Aizel too or something else?

Archfiend Small Hime

Whether there's a "better" translation or not Eisel is the official one now

Already not going to happen, this general was built with nameshit. People will just discuss it at length, come to no real conclusion and everyone just uses whatever they want.

Ludo's a lot more convenient than Rudra(saum) too.

At least nameshit bumps the thread

Rudrathaum can refer to his game appearances, for the continent in general I'm still going to use Ludo.

you fucking got me
Archfiend is no where near as smooth as Demon King

Beside what names are right to use, what about the translations in general? How are Aru and Maria when it comes to that?

Aru's pretty good, although he's a little long winded sometimes.

I wouldn't worry about them in that regard.

They're fine with that.

Maria's pretty good. Her writing sometimes lacks punch but that got a lot better when she started working on projects with editors.
Aru's been getting a lot better over time but his TLs tend to be straightforwardly written and his editor is pretty passive. I guess whether that straightforwardness is good or bad is up to you.

I KNEW IT, I KNEW WE WERE GONNA GET BAMBOOZLED

still, at least it's coming out.

Maria does a pretty good internal Rance. Which one was it that had the porksword? I remember that sentence was gold in how it was done.

Oh, I just remembered as I posted it. It was the IV fight against Sanakia, wasn't it?

Our old posters really are coming back, huh

Someone in stream linked me the mangagamer page so I rushed here

Besides Aru's bizarre name choices neither are really bad.

Little Princess is written in katakana and it's abundantly clear what it's meant to be.
At least they didn't go for Vampire of Blood Pool.

You still stream?

Of course we are /hannyrape/ is our home.

Nigga I never stopped streaming, but I haven't streamed anything Alicesoft related since Evenicle (which I never finished). I'd be streaming Moon Dwellers right now if Sony weren't cunts and requiring an HDMI splitter for me to get around that copyright.

...

Arunaru kinda depressed me on Moon Dwellers' translation.

Extra so, because national shame and all.

>SEA Translations
What did you expect?

Coustwell best Moon Dweller

Eh, the lack of spacing after periods bothers me far more than the translation.

Bamco to not repeat the same mistake twice.

Shame on you.

Could I have the link to your stream?

Saw the news and came on over.