Now that the dust has settled, we can all agree that rotaries were meme engines right?

yes but none of them work

they make good aviation engines.

...

>>undependable
>if you dont lube and service it, like any engine

If you don't change apex seals and run it as a two-stroke
>>fuel efficiency
>your a cuck

Cool deflection but they make awful mpg even when making little power

>>lubrication problems
>premix

Engines still grenade regularly and premixing shouldn't be necessary

>>eats mechanical parts
>no
L M A O

Wanna know how I can tell you've never owned one?

I've owned an fc and an fd and both were wildly unreliable. The FD was unmodified and left me stranded several times even though it was 6 years old and had under 30,000 km at the time. Engine grenaded at 28,000 km even after addition of turbo timer and upgraded radiator and an oil cooler.

Stop being a fanboy, learn about things objectively from people who know what they're talking about m8.

>ALPHA LEADER I NEED ANOTHER MIDAIR PREMIX REFUELING AND APEX SEAL CHANGE, I'M LOSING ALTITUDE

i want jet engines to take over for rotaries.

if im going to have an engine thats going to drink fuel and be loud as fuck, i want one that does it right.

...

small plane general aviation engines.

where their small size, low weight, and ease of maintenance make sense.

>yfw bridgeported jet engine hits afterburner taking off from stoplight right next to you

youtube.com/watch?v=tA0g10rxiDs
or
youtube.com/watch?v=bKHz7wOjb9w

>it's a rotary hate thread

This. Fuck slowfags.

I love me a good Bridgeport rotary though. Who cares if its reliable by now they are mostly enthusiast cars

they are a bridge too far and got killed by emissions and fuel economy just like every other two stroke /what ever the fuck rotor's have instead of strokes
mention of the other rotors is the preserve of the truly obsessed and those with museum pieces
and given that everyone else working on the rotor tapped out early we go strait to mazda and the more normal types

>12A
old trusty

>13B-DEI
the one most people think of

>13B-MSP
only ever hear bad things about it

>R26B
halo cost
fanbois

You forgot the 20B

I like them in an oddly comfy way just because aussies love them

youtu.be/iqm6NKk6Pyo

I'd never ever want to own one myself though

They aren't meme engines they are just made for the race track in race trim they are no or less reliable then a racing piston engine

friendly reminder

>in racing only by die-hard rotary enthusiasts in Australia
>not a single vehicle today right?
you are a dumb faggot

kill yourself

>they are no or less reliable then a racing piston engine

>rotaryfags are THIS delusional

yes but that's fewer parts under more stress to deal with the same problems
main weak point is the apex seals and the oiling system
but there are other issues like air flow and a lack of torque at any sane rpm

Too bad the first two don't make as much power as the v8

Too bad the first two are being carried because they're broken and the v8 is being carried to replace them

>special snowflake racecar
>proving anything

What current racing series uses rotaries? Exactly.

But that's because of haters and sanctioning bodies conspiracies right?

>he thinks you don't need to rebuild a piston racing engine after every race

sure is summer in here

>Too bad the first two don't make as much power as the v8
they actually do

>Too bad the first two are being carried because they're broken and the v8 is being carried to replace them
lel, what a retarded fucking sentence

>What current racing series uses rotaries?
the one I just posted you dumb nigger?

Better then rebuilding after every lap

I guess

good thing you don't need to rebuild a rotary every lap

>The 787B won endurance championships because it was reliable
Your move pistons

sounds like ur fd blew up due to user incompetence

You daily your rotary, I'll daily my V8 we'll see whose lasts longer

>mention of the other rotors is the preserve of the truly obsessed and those with museum pieces
this holds true even among the most produced kinds

however..
20b has a variant in the Eunos Cosmo iirc but I have yet to see one despite living two blocks away from an engine shop that deals in nothing but rotors

Why does nobody talk about the best rotary car ever?

>he daily drives his sports car

maybe you could try stop being so poor

Sounds like you don't trust a rotary to daily, maybe if you weren't so busy shitposting you could buy something a bit more reliable. I heard the new camry is pretty nice Friendo.

sounds like are too poor to afford a sportsbile/sports car to baby and a shitbox to DD

im sorry

they do poorly in state change

Oh but I do have two cars, my classic just barely requires any upkeep.

What's your paypal, I'll send you some money for apex seals br/o/ther.

>i totally have 2 cars

sounds to me like you are a busrider

i don't blame you, you must be angry you are too poor to amntain a rotary

My rx7 went over 200k miles when i sold it still running.
DD'd for 7 years with only needing to replace a starter.
there's some massive misconception in this thread.
Pic related is an early rx8 on the original engine. It went well past 200k

All three of those engines are legendary

>Nissan and gm
>legendary
Kek

You got me good there tripfag, guess I'll just hop into my nonexistent car and head to work.
So when's summer school start up kiddo? Gotta know when it's safe to post without being subjected to your sick berns.

>he is actually a busrider

top kek

200K for 7 years?

that hardly got driven at all.

> being this much of a delusional faggot.

Did Alphonso get a new trip?

When will people learn how to deal with tripfags
> fuck off tripfag

>I wish I was 12 again.

During the 80's lots of IMSA teams wanted Mazda's infamous 4 rotor RX-7 GTO banned/neutered because it was absolutely wrecking everybody.

Fuck off Tripfag

your anecdotal evidence leads me to conclude you were probably an awful owner who didn't know jack shit and/or bought unmaintained shit heaps.

objectively your experiences don't represent everybody else's either.

Reminder that GM has never received an overall win at LeMans.

rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/making-case-rotary-powered-fd-fix-806104/

> Back in 83-89 when i was racing rotaries versus factory backed piston engines in SCCA GT3 class one of the most significant aspects of the rotary was that it was bullet proof. The $20,000 four valve Toyota engines that were the primary competition were running cams that were so radical they had about 4 thou piston to valve clearance so as to make enough hp to run w the rotary. Over-rev 500 rpm on a shift and you had a bushel basket of shrapnel for your $20,000.

> My Roger Mandeville or Daryl Drummond motors ran from 7000 minimum to 10,000 max for the entire 35 minute race. i remember at the 83 Runoffs at Road Atlanta asking Roger after qualifying if he thought we should throw in a fresh motor. The motor in the car had run 12 National races, plus two days of practice and two days of Runoffs qualifying... Roger asked if the motor hot started O K and i answered in the affirmative. He laughed and said that if we liked working we could change it but it wouldn't add another hp.

> Try that w a piston engine.... the valve stems would be loosey goosey leaking oil into the combustion chamber, the valve springs would be shot, the rod bolts would be stretching etc etc.

> I ran 72 National races, 5 Road Atlanta Runoffs and had one blown motor.

> Perhaps the most demonstrative example of rotary reliability was in the 24 Hours of Daytona. During the 80s Mazda racked up a huge number of wins in GTU and GTO over Porsche.
> At the end of the 24 hours all the Mazda racers would make a point of bringing their cars into the pits and letting the engines idle while they leisurely extricated themselves. The engines (huge bridgeports or peripherals) would just brap brap away like they had been on a cruise.

see

youtube.com/watch?v=FyGq9pihrgU

pistoncucks btfo

You're one of the worst new tripfags on Veeky Forums.
That's a tremendous accomplishment.

You're not only ignorant about cars and racing but also pathetically fanboyish and terrible at backing yourself up/talking shit.

Kudos

Cool refutation of none of the points user

It's the automotive equivalent of a 2-Stroke Motorcycle Engine

So yes

>automotive equivalent to an automotive engine
>piston engine

me>you

but there are cars with 2 stroke engines

yes?
its total shit

rotaries dont have compression, and proper compression is the most important aspect of an engine

think of a bullet filled with packed gunpowder...
a rotary is basically like taking a .45 caliber round, and extending the case by several inches without adding anymore gunpowder

in reality, rotaries were a gimmick by the auto industry to fool people who don't actually know shit about engines.

Rotaries are so good that most racing sanctioning bodies banned them for being unbeatable.

pistoncucks on suicide watch

>rotaries dont have compression
>rotaries were a gimmick
Nice try opposite of truth troll

Itt: rotarcucks get butthurt that their failed meme engine failed the test of time

>muh couple of race wins
>muh revs
>muh innovation
>muh conspiracies

Your shit did well for a couple years in the 80's then became irrelevant.

Get over it.

youtu.be/v3uGJGzUYCI

>failed the test of cuck emission regulations
ftfy faggot

Spotted the guy who got smoked by a rotary

> rotaries don't have compression

what the fuck does this even mean

somewhat true
they were banned by the NHRA, IMSA, and FIA at various points. probably more but i'm not aware

but its true that rotaries have very poor compression

they also have cross-port contamination once the seals break in at 20k
so essentially you only have a proper working engine for the first 20,000 miles

very stupid design

>rotaries dont have compression
>rotaries were a gimmick by the auto industry to fool people who don't actually know shit about engines.

>40 year old technology walking literally anything in 2016
Maybe when you get your car off jack stands for the first time in 5 years you'll remember how hilariously slow it is

>implying any pistoncucks could beat me on the touge

Spotted the pistoncuck that got reamed by a stock 12a

Holy fuck youre legit retarded

Just ignore him or tell him to fuck off. That's how tripfags should have always been dealt with.

Fuck off tripfag

not entirely true

rotary compression depends on RPM. you can even theoretically get enough compression to run without any apex seals, as long as the engine is spinning at 9k or so.

>implying a dorito can get anywhere close to touching the S54

>implying anything in 2016 isn't relying on a 157 year old design

ANTS

Spotted the hitchhiking broken down s54 owner that got ignored by the passing 20b FD

>literally this mad

literally just do it for shitpost what the fuck

>rotaries dont have compression
you do know that changing the size of the compression chamber increases the compresion on a rotary, right cuck?

A ported 20B should be pretty comparable, I'd think.

This better?

we need to go bigger

>questions a cars reliability
>drives a rotary

>his rx8 makes 230 hp but only gets 18 mpg combined
>he has to put oil in with his gas
>he spends weekends taking apart the weak engine on his slow car
>he gets walked by gti's
>he has a meme backdoor configuration on his meme car
>with an exhaust his car sounds like a malfunctioning weed-wacker
>he has to retune his engine way down everytime he gets e-checked because his slow car has worse emissions than a diesel brotruck
>he keeps talking about races from the early 90's that no one remembers
>he keeps challenging 1989 CRX's and first gen miatas to races
>they always beat him
>he keeps talking about wanting to move to Australia where all the "good rotary tuning shops" are
>always tries to talk about RX3's with any Aussie he meets and they always say "nah m8 I like holdens cunt"

Unintelligible Toadpaster

I've got bad news for you Viper

He said stock. Regardless, it would still be an unreliable piece of outdated technology, which is literally why they've only tried to reintroduce it once with the rx8, and it inevitably failed.

Even if they weren't extremely flawed, piston engine are still vastly superior.

BMWomen on suicide watch

> lets talk about the shitty rotary, not the good ones

k bro, plenty of shitty piston engines we can talk about too

> n/a rotaries that are not the 13B-MSP being unreliable

you literally
literally
have no clue what you are talking about

ROTARIES HAVE COMPRESSION!!!

THEY REALLY DO!!!