Why is Porsche so ridiculously based?

Portimao

youtube.com/watch?v=q3YPTkBRaOk

>Why is Porsche so ridiculously based?

They make the closest thing to a race car for the street, what other car can you take bone stock and abuse on a racetrack like a Porsche. Other than the 918 they seem to be neuter everything else for the 911's sake for nothing other than 'muh heritiage'.

The Cayman GT4 is an amazing car but Porsche limiting power so the 911 isn't BTFO is bullshit.

>they have to put it into racing mode which is not street legal!

It's not illegal. It just lowers it to a height which would be too low to sell as a production vehicle in the UK.

>Camaro SS performs just as good at a 10th of the price

Why are euro cars so shitty?

kekked

not sure it's about uk rules specifically, it's to meet worldwide type approval

I think it just means "Undriveable anywhere outside perfectly flat runways"

A factory Cayman making 911 Turbo power wouldn't be (relatively) cheap though. It doesn't make sense for them to build competitors to their own cars when the current high-end line is the brand name. Adding power while maintaining usability and reliability costs money in places we don't think about.

(You)

P1 used racing slicks, and that's what is illegal.

Not the racing mode.

For fucks sake. Get your facts straight if you want to troll/bash.

IIRC in that video the ferrari and mclaren were on the same tyres and the porsche was on a slightly more aggressive one.
Maybe mis-remembering that though.

Then pay attention to what he says at the end.

P1 is just slightly faster WHEN using slicks. With regular tires theres no gap.

And how am I wrong/trolling?

oh okay i'll take your word for it, can't watch now

please don't turn this into one of (those) threads.

just watched it, you're wrong lol

No i am not.

I watched some other video that had all three
rear tires keep trying to fall of the p1
Ferrari was flailing about a bit
and the 918 kept flying into the air

what I find interesting is how close the times are despite somewhat divergent of approach

when its less than a second a lap what does it matter
a single mistake by the driver will fuck that no matter the car

>Fiat La Fiat
no wonder they wouldn't let people test it

No, Harris explains in the beginning how he just presented the manufacturers with the same tires provided by Pirelli. The times were all set on the same tire model. It's only later they put the P1 back on the Trofeos and it's only then when it can really slash the time of the other two cars.

Interesting additional information: Porsche hasn't once been the one bitching and moaning about the specifics of tests like these. It has always been Ferrari and McLaren

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>when its less than a second a lap what does it matter
You're new to racing, aren't you.
I agree with OP, the 918 is the most impressive piece of engineering. It's by far the cheapest out of the three, it's got the best equipment (you can even remove the roof), best range in electric mode (I know, who cares but it's still a hybrid) and it's the fastest around corners. The P1 looks like pure sex but overall the Porsche is just the masterpiece and the only reason to buy the LaFerrari is the name.

>they got the biggest company
>they got the most money
>they have shitloads of applicants and can freely choose from the very best

they are also a bunch of self-loving jerks who manufacture nothing by themselves.

They also have blonde cuties with big tits installing your steering wheels you know

Nice opinion, but those "laptimes" are conjecture at best.
To establish a comparative performance paradigm, calculate peak torque then divide by vehicle weight. Otherwise you're just measuring surface conditions, barometric pressure, atmospheric pressure, human error, etc

reminder
autoblog.com/2012/10/31/watch-a-modified-ford-gt-go-283-mph-in-a-standing-mile/

youtube.com/watch?v=H43_lkBkGkg

Hey retard, the p1 has a setting called track mode which makes it unsuitable for daily driving. Actually ILLEGAL. Yet when they post numbers its while on this setting

>look mom, buzzwerds

>You're new to racing, aren't you.

not really I'm just getting cynical and jaded
how many laps does a pass take if your only gaining .25 a second each time
some mechanical failure or human error will get in the way first

I agree about the porsche being impressive and comfy
but its a little boring and I don't much like its look

what I mean is that 959 and carrera gt porsche gt1 at lest have a bit more presence
the slightly ugly and chaotic handling cars like the Ferrari or p1 are more appealing than what might be the obvious winner in the 918
normally I'm all about minimum effort maximum result I've only headed towards this other thought more recently as it is my antithesis

I don't understand. So the car is capable of beating the others without doing any modifications, only hitting a few buttons while inside the car, but it doesn't count? What about this mode makes it non streetable?

Cars also have to turn, brake, and accelerate while turning.

Cars are also driven by people. If a car can perform very well around corners while being very hard to control, even for an advanced AI, it's not the best car ever made by a long shot.

Illegal why? Emissions?

w-where's lambo?

race mode is illegal because the height of the car drops, and the height of the lights are below the minimum height demanded by law,
> in conclusion it's illegal because it doesn't the height enough to run over a person, being so low causes more damage to a person

>turning.

lol

Watch the video again, the P1 is slightly faster with the same tires, but wrecks everyone with the Performance tires that can be bought with the car

Wrong.

You should watch the video again.

So it's "illegal", but nobody will actually care or notice if you do it. Cops don't get out the measuring tape if you're nice.

Cops = law, cops don't care = not illegal

Also the minimum height varies by state and jurisdiction so there's a good chance that there is no possibility of cops giving a shit

ride height is too low, it's a track mode after all, and they were on a track, so raod legality has nothing to do with it. It's not McLaren's fault that the other two don't have a track mode like that

yep you can drive with race mode active, but beware of potholes and speed bumps, that will fuck the carbon fiber underbody

So

>beware of driving a car that is faster around a flat track
>they make compromises you can only make on flat racetracks

wait what do you mean the question of "which car is faster" depends on driving conditions

It lowers it considerably, increases aero, etc. Mostly the lower part, it basically becomes a racecar

Aventador is not up to par and Veneno's a joke

>all these assmad porsche fangirls

The race mode is not illegal.

Manufacturers aren't allowed to sell a car that is as low at the McLaren is in its race mode. McLaren circumvents this by having a system that can raise the ride height for normal driving conditions or lower it for the track. It's really no different than if somebody bought new VW and then slammed it into the ground.

And they're measuring lap times. On a track. Racing mode. Not street legal.

Dammit OP, u dun goofed.

Why no 918 track model?

2 tenths is nothing bro. a good consistent 5 lap group would all be within 3 tenths of each other.

the mclaren on the other hand is obviously faster. 5 tenths is more than consistency.

> 5 tenths

> something worth talking about

lel

Different drivers and who knows, shit might be inverted.