A thread for our beloved econobox pocket rockets. Talk experiences, ask for advice and questions and generally shitpost about the Fiesta ST.
>Roadtripping Edition Hot hatches make perfect road trip cars, what's the best trip you've taken yours on?
>What is a "Hot Hatch"? A Hot Hatch is a manufacturer produced, performance oriented variant of a standard hatchback, designed for improved handling, increased top speed, acceleration and generally enhance the driving experience.
>Are all Hot Hatches FWD? No. Whilst most Hot Hatches are FWD, some are AWD or even RWD.
>Isn't FWD shit? No. Just because you can't get the arse out by stamping on the accelerator doesn't mean you can't have fun.
>Aren't Hot Hatches just for Europoors? No; with the launch of the Fiesta and Focus ST to joining the MS3 and Abarth in the US, it seems like the Hot Hatch is beginning to take off on the other side of the Atlantic, but Europoors definitely have more choice.
>Is the Fiesta ST actually good? The Fiesta ST is one of the best small hot hatches on offer at the minute; so yeah they're pretty good.
Camden Nguyen
>No title u dun fucked up OP
Colton Bennett
>FiST my asshole >not clio v6 RS Its like having a small dick and saying its better. Enjoy the inferior car
Eli Moore
Abarths welcome? Just put a new intake on mine last week. No more plastic engine cover makes access much easier. Changed the spark plugs in like five minutes afterwords.
Michael Reed
>telling people any version of the american Fiesta is at all good
Easton Rivera
How are you finding it? I keep toying with buying one. Drove a base model 140bhp version and it was mad fun. Which variant are you running?
Jordan Sanders
>My Clio has the same engine as the Twingo RS with like 2 less HP >isn't considered a hot hatch
Kayden Perez
For the price it's been pretty great. I toyed with ordering a FiST first but it would have run me at least 4k more with an APR of like 2-3%. Got my 2015 for around 20k out the door at 0% no options (the way to go IMO). It's a great daily, average 34 mpg, always fun. Don't expect great fit and finish or luxury on the interior, but I don't mind simplicity. I get more compliments and questions about it then any other car I've owned.
Only issue I've had was knocking in the front suspension fixed under warranty.
Daniel Hall
Oh and I have the Abarth, so stock is around 165 bhp? Waiting for the Euro compulsion tune for 2015 to come out so I can bump it a little closer to 200.
Cooper Sanchez
Because it's all about the character of the var. A sloppy Clio isn't going to be anywhere near as hot as a peppy, fun Twingo
Yeah, I'm a bit torn between the 595 Competizione and a FiST. Not driven either yet, only the basic 595, but my mate has just bought a FiST and everyone seems to have one. You don't see that many around.
Angel Carter
The base Abarth here has 140bhp, the Turismo has 160, and the Competizione 180bhp
Noah Nguyen
Ah ok, we only get one flavor and it's closest to the turismo I would guess?
Logan Reed
This is the one I was buying.
Mason Turner
Got that engine in my MiTo, great fun, nice exhaust note for a little i4
Wyatt White
How's the MiTo?
Ryder Reyes
Are minis hot?
Mason Murphy
The S is, the Cooper is kind of.
Juan Thomas
7.2% Wow. My bank just approved a used car loan at 3%.
Elijah Jenkins
>get in crash >die >Are minis hot?
Carson Phillips
Yeah, but £200 a month is nothing.
The Cooper S and JCW S are yeah, although the R53 and R56 are a bit hotter than the current gen.
Evan Hall
Pretty good, it's nicely finished inside, fun, nippy, decent mpg. Only had it a few weeks though, so I can't comment on reliability yet.
One thing I have noticed is how meme the DNA switch is - great on twisty fast roads in Dynamic, awful in the city
Grayson Allen
Can I join too? No power compared to other hot hatches but it's a lot of fun going through the gears on back roads.
Drove to Galway in it, avoiding the motorway as much as I could. Lots of twisty roads and managed to break some ridiculous Irish speed limits.
Aiden Allen
Looks pretty good for a cheap thrills car too.
Jason Peterson
The Swift Sport is definitely a hot hatch
Christian Allen
>136hp >160Nm >hot hatch
Mason Ross
>dealership sticker
ewwwwwwwww
Daniel Lee
>rev-happy as fuck NA engine >fantastic chassis
There's more to a hot hatch than just power and torque figures.
Connor Evans
Be honest Veeky Forums, will I look like a huge fucking faggot cruising around in a Mazda3 Hatch? I'm going for the i Touring trim with a manual 6-speed.
Grayson Perry
not unless you yourself look like a huge faggot.
Alexander Green
Actually this gen has the M16a which only makes 125bhp but it's a lot lighter than the old one, plus it's a facelift with the 7300rpm redline. The engine is still as lively though and it's a great suspension setup. It's not fast but it's quick.
I'm going for the stock look. Mainly because the car is stock except for the exhaust.
I wouldn't call it hot today, maybe when it came out and most hot hatches didn't have turbos or huge amounts of torque steer. If I was to get a hot hatch next it'd be a Road Clio 200 solely because it's NA.
Brayden Morris
>NA engine That's so last century, man.
Ian Martin
Can't beat that delicious immediate throttle response.
Jayden Price
If you own a VW polo or VW golf you should fucking kill yourself
Josiah Carter
>If you own a VW you should fucking kill yourself FTFY
Landon Jackson
The RS 200 is a fabulous choice
Eli Hughes
>Whilst most Hot Hatches are FWD, some are AWD or even RWD. Name two RWD hatches currently produced
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Carter Cox
joining you soon user
Liam Murphy
BMW 135i BMW 120D MSPORT
Chase Edwards
All of my mates are buying new cars, and all except one have bought hot hatches, and I'm sat here waiting for my insurer to write mine off.
Pic is 3 of 4 of my mates new cars, including the one not hot hatch.
Joseph Powell
Great colour. Why the 5-door?
William Hughes
It actually only comes in 5-door here in Ausfaglia, but I'd get the 5 door anyway or my girlfriend would complain (even more than she already is)
Isaac Russell
tfw all the grills want to be in your car because all the other shits have 3 doors
Adam Sullivan
lol that counts as one. nobody but bmw?
Jaxon Sanchez
No, because everyone knows the best hot hatch formula is ~200 - 250 bhp, fwd, 6 speed manual.
Leo Diaz
So; considerations for my new car >Abarth Competizione Possibly a bit too small and >5 speed, but mad fun. Quite like the styling, and a lot of the colours, will probably go Campovolo Grey >Fiesta ST Seems alright but everyone has one and there isn't a colour I really like. Reviews have been good, but a mate has just bought one and I don't really want the same car. Would go white probably. Or get a Nardo Grey wrap. >Polo GTI Reviews seem to say these are a bit shit, but I actually really like the styling, particularly the lights and rims. Seems a tad more mature. Probably have it pearl white or Nardo Grey if I can. >Ibiza Cupra Same car underneath as the Polo, the styling is a bit more hit and miss. Really haven't done much looking at these, dont even know what colours they offer. >Clio RS I really like the styling of these, and I fancy trying out the EDC box, and my last car was the previous gen RS. Also liquid yellow is to die for. But reviews haven't been great, and I don't know if I will miss the manual. Would 99% certainly take it in Liquid Yellow
WHAT DO I DO
Justin Long
Also the new Twingo
Anthony King
Personally I'd get a Clio RS or a Fiesta ST (they should come in magnetic over there now, too). The Abarth is a distant 3rd for me.
Drive them all and then decide for yourself tho.
Henry Davis
See, of the lot, I've only driven the Abarth, but it was the basic 140bhp model. But that was actually very fun, just the seating position was too high. I think the Competizione has a better seating position because buckets.
Benjamin Flores
I would just recommend giving them all a fair shot before deciding. Having a mate with the same car would be pretty sweet since you can learn to wrench on it together, always have a bud for an install day, and can try and find meets around you etc.
The Abarth is a cool car, and the engine is supposed to be reliable, I'd just make sure by driving all the ones your interested in first.
Dominic Morales
Top tier taste. >Tfw no swift turbo till way in 2017 and spent money on vitara turbo
Nathaniel Taylor
in the states a 2013 abarth goes for less than 12k. >feelsgoodman.jpeg
other than some reliability issues it's just that muricans think fiat is a meme
Isaiah Cook
how do you think the MiTo compares to the 500 abarth?
Landon Cruz
I got a Volvo c30. it's turning radius sucks. what can I do?
Zachary Murphy
Sell it and buy something better.
Lincoln Bell
Question about the FiST
Where do they do the mountune MP215 kits? Are they available in all Ford dealers?
Also is it worth getting the MP215, or just go the full mile and get the MR230 upgrade?
Jaxson Murphy
215 is still 35 horsepower over standard, and doesn't void your warranty
David Young
I believe you have to order teh MP215 from Mountune, and then have (I believe) a certified mechanic install it, then you have to register your car with Ford Performance, and then occasionally you have to go through them to to get dealerships to honor your warranty.
It's a lot of hoops to jump through for a little power gain and a lot of cost, personally I don't think the 'stage' kits are worth the cost.
Matthew Phillips
For being so small it looks like a well laid out engine bay. How is accessing the oil filter?
Luis Richardson
Are the 2008-2014 wrx/stis considered a hatch or a wagon?
John Anderson
They're a hatch. A wagon is an extended saloon.
Oliver Moore
I have never loved a car like this before.
Next stop is tuneage
Landon Rogers
are the golf gti and r considered hot hatches.
Cooper Garcia
The MkI Golf GTI is basically the original hot hatch, so yes, all of its successors are considered hot hatches. The GTI is basically the hot hatch that everything else gets compared to.
Noah Edwards
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Brody King
Ah. It does sound like headwork desu.
I'll guess I think it over a few days more before deciding what to do
Gavin Scott
>TFW everybody sleeps on the Kia hot hatches
William Martin
because there are tons of better options for the same money
Benjamin Anderson
I think its a solid hot hatch
but I also bought it, so, that sort of speaks for itself
Lucas Peterson
Which one's that? I know the ProCee'd GT is a decent option for a "warm hatch", not quite a Golf GTI competitor but not full ecobox mode either.
Brody Campbell
I'd recommend a rear motor mount to start, and wouldn't go terribly far past that if you're really concerned about warranty.
Aaron King
It's the Forte5 Turbo SX with the TARMAC EDITION shit on it
Nicholas Scott
Piddly pum, tis such a wanking pity that you bummers of the queen can not go to the Paki shop and Nick yourselves a bleeding 1992 Geo Tracker
Tyler Baker
I could probably get a Suzuki Vitara/Sidekick for pretty much fuck all. Same car.
Jordan Gutierrez
Just got a white 2016 Golf GTI. I'm also in love with it
Carter Richardson
Whenever I see those wheels on VWs I just think of 5 point swastikas, unfortunately.
Jose Cook
Tfw you non-ironically want a Twingo GT >small as fuck >RWD >rear-engine >pimped to 110 bhp
Is this a new GOAT hot hatch?
Dylan Anderson
If you can switch the electronic nannies all the way off, which is a possibility knowing RenaultSport.
Camden Foster
The GT is probably warm.
Now that there is a GT though, it means that we could see an RS version.
Matthew Rivera
I do sort of want one. I wonder how much they'll cost.
Lucas Long
So I'm finally getting around to installing my hitch in the mk6 GTI to help my cousin move across the state. I know I will have to modify my rear exhaust tubing as its an older hitch but the back was tweaked from getting rear ended a while back.
My question is when installing the trailer wiring, would it be fine to tap power from the amp power wire(separately fused of course)?
Alexander White
nah thanks i'll enjoy my 270ish hp with a tune and S U P E R I O R I N T E R I O R
Nathan Green
it's like being attacked by an angry week-old kitten
Thomas Campbell
Threads like this are cute, with your "modern" hot hatches. I drive an old EP3 with full bolt-ons plus cams and tires stickier than your thieving fingers. 24mpg is worth the ability to fuck up stage 2 COBB WRX's and those Audi S4's with whatever modifications. My favorite part is the noise my car makes at 8k+. No other hot hatch can mimic that kind of song, it's just what a proper VTEC motor should sound like. The rest of you lot are embarassing.
Michael Watson
Hahaha good one.
Carson Baker
Cheap hot hatches? Im toying with jumping on a Panda 100HP short term. They seem pretty quirky and possibly fun
Dominic Kelly
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Sebastian Reyes
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Elijah Walker
It's time to get a twingo. Whatever happened to 140hp one?!
Benjamin Williams
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Luis Davis
Just got a BNR tune for my chevy sonic this morning. It's very responsive now. It's a mild tune and it's still a very noticeable increase in performance.