Overkill: 39.85 - two headshots for a tan 53.13 - three headshots for a tazer 79.85 - one headshot for a tan 111.79 - one headshot for a cloaker 159.69 - one headshot for a tazer
Deathwish: 39.24 - three headshots for an elite 44.98 - four headshots for a tan 60.21 - three headshots for a tan 90.32 - two headshots for a tan 117.93 - one headshot for an elite 120.42 - three headshots for a tazer 180.98 - one headshot for a tan
Gavin Morris
what is this
anyone that wants breakpoint information can just go here: tonyfox ws/payday2/breakpoints/
also those numbers are inaccurate
Jacob Kelly
They are taken straight from the most autistic guide on the internet and accounting for granularity 'n' tables 'n' sheit, that website is the inaccurate one
Dominic Allen
4th for original crew best crew
Jose Morales
>original crew >houston
Eli James
7th for misunderstood weapons
Liam Wright
>silent shitter
Julian Jenkins
Why are there so many shitters playing at the moment, holy shit. I don't have high expectations while pubbing but I expect people with infamy 5 or more to know basic shit like not shooting cams.
Robert King
To be fair, it's not like you haven't got a ton of spare points left over on a stealth build nowadays.
Leo Perry
>61 damage without it
XD
Josiah Lopez
first rule in payday 2: never stealth with pubbies on any jobs that aren't jewelry store or Bank:Heist.
You're just asking for a disaster otherwise.
Caleb Gomez
>using it in the first place when you could just use a gun that doesn't need crutch points spent on it
If it's for stealth, the damage is irrelevant.
Caleb Nelson
>If it's for stealth, the damage is irrelevant
alerted guards cant be taken down in one hit, and usually you're not killing guards unless they're alerted
Zachary Cruz
I know. I used to play CoH looking for the worst pub teams I could find, I'm used to pd2's low tier of pubbie. It's just, it seems even worse recently. Like it's a sale period or something.
Jacob Foster
Then use a gun that will take them down in one hit instead of the cavity, which won't.
>and usually you're not killing guards unless they're alerted
You're trying to imply you're very good at stealth, but what you're actually implying is that your computer is shit.
James Mitchell
>Like it's a sale period or something. >implying you won't feel the difference when the time will come
Adam Smith
>You're trying to imply you're very good at stealth, but what you're actually implying is that your computer is shit
what did he mean by this?
Camden Cox
If it's irrelevant, then why do you care?
Elijah Parker
what's the point of primary AKs when there's a secondary AK
Jaxson Gomez
This I am genuinely amazed by how many people can get spotted out front or on the side of the building when I'm inside steal thing Firestarter day 2 Especially shameful considering it's one of the more fun heist days to stealth
Nathan Brooks
To have 2 AK’s
Ryan Scott
because ammo pickups and invisible stats
Nicholas Richardson
More ammo and better stats except for rate of fire Also more utility since with dmr kits you can get a sniper basically and you can use the Izhma for a shotgun and rpk for an lmg
Oliver Garcia
Christ. I sure do wonder how this is going to turn out.
Andrew Miller
...
Ayden Carter
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Joseph Young
>john wick with the bodhi mark Pure shittery
Luis Reyes
Pretty much. Host sounds like testicles have yet to grace his underside.
Naw man it's irony. Irony! I actually had no idea who John Wick was when I started playing. I don't watch movies.
Alexander Flores
He was talking about Milkman. You're obviously Mexican Bodhi.
Ryan Evans
run at solid 60 fps for all maps
once again usually you dont want to kill guards, because pagers are valuable
so you try to avoid killing them, even when you're approaching max detection
usually you only kill a guard that is cool if you need to for an objective or if it's a control map (like GO bank, for example), or if it's for quality of life, like killing the upstair guards in ED
cavity one hits basic guards and can double tap murkies if you HS them, while having pretty good concealment
i'm not trying to imply im very good at stealth, i just personally avoid killing guards to the extreme
Ethan Gutierrez
xth for >hit art gallery for elephant >take the paintings that the senator wants >hit art gallery for bain/profit >still only take certain paintings
???
Elijah Wilson
I use whatever I want, cavity is a dlc item just because over kill memed all over dlc items, doesn't mean user can't enjoy his purchase.
Henry Mitchell
The point of the red stickers was that they were the good paintings and the rest were shit that nobody wanted to pay money for. It still makes sense.
Brayden Cooper
>only 2 If you're not gonna be the hardest motherfucker, why even try?
Noah Flores
>Not fully modded >Not even boosted You aren't even trying
Gavin Howard
>tfw absolute shitters join your dw stealth missions and host hasn't learned to just kick them on sight even after 4 straight fails caused by sub-50 retards being retarded
Ryan Hernandez
why hide your name senpai I want to fuck up your games aswell.
Luke Wilson
>not modding your guns for style pity the fool
Jayden Campbell
>isn't host >"YOUR" mission
Levi Taylor
>putting a scope on your AK don't do that
Grayson Edwards
You are really scraping the barrel this time.
Lucas Reed
[s]I used to love playing PD2. Then it went to shit. And I've been trying to get back into it but doesn't feel the same.[/s]
Today's Daily Side Jobs are: - Bulldozer (any_25_tank_kills) - Dentist Appointment! (dentist_4_jobs)
Keep those helmets flying! ;)
Hunter Reed
I hate this new "eeeeverything is viable!" balance. I used to have one full page with just ARs. Weapons used to be different enough to have small niches, I used to pick the JP35 to have high ammo count at the cost of a little accuracy, the Commando to have a little higher firerate at the cost of no extended mag, the CAR for faggotry, differently built weapons for with and without the headshot bonus, with and without the 5% damage bonus, etc. Now every AR is exactly the same. They demolished all the niches and there's just one big niche of all rifles being the same shit and everyone having the same bonuses. The JP35 is now IDENTICAL to the Commando, except slightly worse. No shit everything is viable, it all shoots exactly the same (or slightly worse).
And whose bright idea was to make damage variations in mods 1-2 points each?
Brayden Phillips
So do any of the melee skills apply to the saw? I kinda want to try and make the saw viable to murder shit with and not just utility, but I'm having a pretty rough time coming up with something that just can't be done better by cutting a bitch with a katana or flag pole.
John Ward
No.
Jaxson Campbell
It a strange feeling I have with payday, they put a lot of effort into marketing and I assume into the dlc that follows. The prices are not always worth it but the steam sales mean if your patient you can just buy the dlc on the cheap.
I can't decide if payday 2 is a good game run buy developers who love their game but are incompetent and make mistakes.
or a mediocre game with awful stealth run by guys who don't know what the fuck is going on gameplaywise whose only really talent is marketing.
Alexander Cooper
>not using the AMR-16 It's one of the least molested weapons that has been top tier since launch
Eli Long
It would be so much better if it was handled by some different developers but Overkill has put a ton more love into the game than most real big modern game development studios Also Overkill does not deserve the time and effort of our glorious lord Simon Viklund, he is literally the sole reason I bought this game when it first came out and by far the biggest reason I've stayed
James Reyes
Of course I do, it's the winner of the 90 niche. Which is about one of the two niches that exist anymore for ARs.
Jacob Green
>ammo economy was one of the most important features that essentially defined how weapons were best used >overkill just said fuck it and gave everything enough ammo for anything forget damage and accuracy and stability and weapon mod values, changing ammo pools was the biggest mistake they made
Jack Anderson
I think giving everyone free helmet popping was a mistake too
Carter Hernandez
anyone still play old payday
Hunter Mitchell
I miss tier bonuses even though I'm alright with perk decks There was just a certain magic to getting a build with most everything you wanted in it when you had to tactically place an arbitrary number of points in each tree
Juan Roberts
fuck you
new side jobs when
Ian Edwards
Does the DLC unlocker also unlock steamcornmunity content if you get banned from it?
Juan Richardson
>getting banned
Gabriel Davis
I'm not of course. I just want to know how little of a shit to give about the possibility of butthurt pubbies reporting me.
Connor Edwards
It should.
Hunter Cook
63th for our cute pdg-tan
Jason Diaz
>not opening the bottom row or two, standing on the open doors, sawing the top row, then hopping off and sawing the middle Kawaii please
Eli Brown
>there will never be kawaii character pack complete with voice lines and lewd implications Why is overkill such a shit company
Charles Hughes
*tips overkill certified fedora*
Aaron Hall
Anyone play Death Wish+, or any other difficulty mod here?
Xavier Ward
wake me when there's a shark mask
Kayden Gonzalez
i am completely new to /pdg/
who is this meme-haired bitch
Lucas Martinez
irrelevant weeb shit
Blake Rivera
Nothing more than an anthropomorphic of the kawaii mask. She doesn't really have a name, some people call her /pdg/-tan, some people call her Kawaii. She's a meme.
Joseph Robinson
there's an anime mask in the game called the kawaii mask
Matthew Hall
Yes
Oliver Smith
YEAH
David Harris
TIGHTEST CREW EVER
Nicholas Taylor
>that feel when your friend sexually identity as a highly modified Car-4
Hudson Campbell
So your friend is a lie
Confirmed for never ever going to become or even be close to the original/natural thing, a sniper
Chase Rivera
sale when
Charles Moore
imagine unironically using the steam group chat
Ryan Robinson
>Not using the steam chat Maybe you are too much of a shitter to join
Landon Turner
No matter how bad they fuck this game up, nobody can ever take This Is Our Time from you. Remember that. youtube.com/watch?v=ek_EVouA-CI