/pdg/ - Payday: The Heist and Payday 2 General

Highly modified Car-4s Edition

Previous very hard Goat Simulator heist : >(NEW) Workshop Manual
overkillsoftware.com/workshopmanual/

>Upcoming Payday 2 Tournaments:
overkillsoftware.com/payday2-tournament/

>Extremely In-Depth Guide on the Mechanics of PAYDAY 2 (Frank is back)
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=267214370

>Skill/Weapon Stat Calculator:
pd2skills.com/

>Old Skilltree Guide:
i.imgur.com/nUXjB3J.png

>Perk Deck Guide (out of date, somebody update this shit already):
i.imgur.com/E6x18Bt.png

>Stat Ranking and Breakpoints (slightly out of date):
i.imgur.com/TY14uav.png

>Weapon/Armor/Damage/Pickup Spreadsheets (not up to date):
pastebin.com/dSyuTzdt

>Weapon Skin Checklist (totally up to date):
pastebin.com/jivyLi3A

>Big Oil Engine Calculators:
payday2skills.ru/bigoil.html
albertkung.com/bigoil/

>PAYDAY Wiki:
payday.wikia.com/wiki/PAYDAY_2

>Latest Updates Here:
steamcommunity.com/app/218620

>Steam Group:
steamcommunity.com/groups/itfeelslikesomethingsintheair

>Mods and Lua:
pastebin.com/HR91ZxX2

>Weapon skin previews
pd2stash.com/

>Daily Dose
fuldans.se/?v=bawawkvbhb
youtube.com/watch?v=2VbhCe21nhc
youtube.com/watch?v=jHEkCM3fTrc

Other urls found in this thread:

steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=747038449
youtube.com/watch?v=ek_EVouA-CI
pd2skills.com/#/v3/mGIKl:eGHJL:tPr:ibcdea:pM8:::
pd2skills.com/#/v3/mACDfGIjKl:eGHJLr:toR:fPr:ibcdea:pM8:::
pd2skills.com/#/v3/mGIKl:eFGHjkLmNPr:tloR:gJlr:fPr:ibcdea:pM8:::
youtube.com/watch?v=zj0-DdRGy_I
twitter.com/NSFWRedditImage

___ _______ art gallery mod when

Overkill:
39.85 - two headshots for a tan
53.13 - three headshots for a tazer
79.85 - one headshot for a tan
111.79 - one headshot for a cloaker
159.69 - one headshot for a tazer

Deathwish:
39.24 - three headshots for an elite
44.98 - four headshots for a tan
60.21 - three headshots for a tan
90.32 - two headshots for a tan
117.93 - one headshot for an elite
120.42 - three headshots for a tazer
180.98 - one headshot for a tan

what is this

anyone that wants breakpoint information can just go here:
tonyfox ws/payday2/breakpoints/

also those numbers are inaccurate

They are taken straight from the most autistic guide on the internet and accounting for granularity 'n' tables 'n' sheit, that website is the inaccurate one

4th for original crew best crew

>original crew
>houston

7th for misunderstood weapons

>silent shitter

Why are there so many shitters playing at the moment, holy shit. I don't have high expectations while pubbing but I expect people with infamy 5 or more to know basic shit like not shooting cams.

To be fair, it's not like you haven't got a ton of spare points left over on a stealth build nowadays.

>61 damage without it

XD

first rule in payday 2: never stealth with pubbies on any jobs that aren't jewelry store or Bank:Heist.

You're just asking for a disaster otherwise.

>using it in the first place when you could just use a gun that doesn't need crutch points spent on it

If it's for stealth, the damage is irrelevant.

>If it's for stealth, the damage is irrelevant

alerted guards cant be taken down in one hit, and usually you're not killing guards unless they're alerted

I know. I used to play CoH looking for the worst pub teams I could find, I'm used to pd2's low tier of pubbie. It's just, it seems even worse recently. Like it's a sale period or something.

Then use a gun that will take them down in one hit instead of the cavity, which won't.

>and usually you're not killing guards unless they're alerted

You're trying to imply you're very good at stealth, but what you're actually implying is that your computer is shit.

>Like it's a sale period or something.
>implying you won't feel the difference when the time will come

>You're trying to imply you're very good at stealth, but what you're actually implying is that your computer is shit

what did he mean by this?

If it's irrelevant, then why do you care?

what's the point of primary AKs when there's a secondary AK

This
I am genuinely amazed by how many people can get spotted out front or on the side of the building when I'm inside steal thing Firestarter day 2
Especially shameful considering it's one of the more fun heist days to stealth

To have 2 AK’s

because ammo pickups and invisible stats

More ammo and better stats except for rate of fire
Also more utility since with dmr kits you can get a sniper basically and you can use the Izhma for a shotgun and rpk for an lmg

Christ. I sure do wonder how this is going to turn out.

...

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>john wick with the bodhi mark
Pure shittery

Pretty much. Host sounds like testicles have yet to grace his underside.

Naw man it's irony. Irony! I actually had no idea who John Wick was when I started playing. I don't watch movies.

He was talking about Milkman. You're obviously Mexican Bodhi.

run at solid 60 fps for all maps

once again
usually you dont want to kill guards, because pagers are valuable

so you try to avoid killing them, even when you're approaching max detection

usually you only kill a guard that is cool if you need to for an objective or if it's a control map (like GO bank, for example), or if it's for quality of life, like killing the upstair guards in ED

cavity one hits basic guards and can double tap murkies if you HS them, while having pretty good concealment

i'm not trying to imply im very good at stealth, i just personally avoid killing guards to the extreme

xth for
>hit art gallery for elephant
>take the paintings that the senator wants
>hit art gallery for bain/profit
>still only take certain paintings

???

I use whatever I want, cavity is a dlc item just because over kill memed all over dlc items, doesn't mean user can't enjoy his purchase.

The point of the red stickers was that they were the good paintings and the rest were shit that nobody wanted to pay money for. It still makes sense.

>only 2
If you're not gonna be the hardest motherfucker, why even try?

>Not fully modded
>Not even boosted
You aren't even trying

>tfw absolute shitters join your dw stealth missions and host hasn't learned to just kick them on sight even after 4 straight fails caused by sub-50 retards being retarded

why hide your name senpai I want to fuck up your games aswell.

>not modding your guns for style
pity the fool

>isn't host
>"YOUR" mission

>putting a scope on your AK
don't do that

You are really scraping the barrel this time.

[s]I used to love playing PD2.
Then it went to shit.
And I've been trying to get back into it but doesn't feel the same.[/s]

thank u 4 bein fortrite :)

Hey guys I finished that thing
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=747038449

Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- Bulldozer (any_25_tank_kills)
- Dentist Appointment! (dentist_4_jobs)

Keep those helmets flying! ;)

I hate this new "eeeeverything is viable!" balance.
I used to have one full page with just ARs.
Weapons used to be different enough to have small niches, I used to pick the JP35 to have high ammo count at the cost of a little accuracy, the Commando to have a little higher firerate at the cost of no extended mag, the CAR for faggotry, differently built weapons for with and without the headshot bonus, with and without the 5% damage bonus, etc.
Now every AR is exactly the same. They demolished all the niches and there's just one big niche of all rifles being the same shit and everyone having the same bonuses. The JP35 is now IDENTICAL to the Commando, except slightly worse.
No shit everything is viable, it all shoots exactly the same (or slightly worse).

And whose bright idea was to make damage variations in mods 1-2 points each?

So do any of the melee skills apply to the saw? I kinda want to try and make the saw viable to murder shit with and not just utility, but I'm having a pretty rough time coming up with something that just can't be done better by cutting a bitch with a katana or flag pole.

No.

It a strange feeling I have with payday, they put a lot of effort into marketing and I assume into the dlc that follows. The prices are not always worth it but the steam sales mean if your patient you can just buy the dlc on the cheap.

I can't decide if payday 2 is a good game run buy developers who love their game but are incompetent and make mistakes.

or a mediocre game with awful stealth run by guys who don't know what the fuck is going on gameplaywise whose only really talent is marketing.

>not using the AMR-16
It's one of the least molested weapons that has been top tier since launch

It would be so much better if it was handled by some different developers but Overkill has put a ton more love into the game than most real big modern game development studios
Also Overkill does not deserve the time and effort of our glorious lord Simon Viklund, he is literally the sole reason I bought this game when it first came out and by far the biggest reason I've stayed

Of course I do, it's the winner of the 90 niche. Which is about one of the two niches that exist anymore for ARs.

>ammo economy was one of the most important features that essentially defined how weapons were best used
>overkill just said fuck it and gave everything enough ammo for anything
forget damage and accuracy and stability and weapon mod values, changing ammo pools was the biggest mistake they made

I think giving everyone free helmet popping was a mistake too

anyone still play old payday

I miss tier bonuses even though I'm alright with perk decks
There was just a certain magic to getting a build with most everything you wanted in it when you had to tactically place an arbitrary number of points in each tree

fuck you

new side jobs when

Does the DLC unlocker also unlock steamcornmunity content if you get banned from it?

>getting banned

I'm not of course.
I just want to know how little of a shit to give about the possibility of butthurt pubbies reporting me.

It should.

63th for our cute pdg-tan

>not opening the bottom row or two, standing on the open doors, sawing the top row, then hopping off and sawing the middle
Kawaii please

>there will never be kawaii character pack complete with voice lines and lewd implications
Why is overkill such a shit company

*tips overkill certified fedora*

Anyone play Death Wish+, or any other difficulty mod here?

wake me when there's a shark mask

i am completely new to /pdg/

who is this meme-haired bitch

irrelevant weeb shit

Nothing more than an anthropomorphic of the kawaii mask.
She doesn't really have a name, some people call her /pdg/-tan, some people call her Kawaii. She's a meme.

there's an anime mask in the game called the kawaii mask

Yes

YEAH

TIGHTEST CREW EVER

>that feel when your friend sexually identity as a highly modified Car-4

So your friend is a lie

Confirmed for never ever going to become or even be close to the original/natural thing, a sniper

sale when

imagine unironically using the steam group chat

>Not using the steam chat
Maybe you are too much of a shitter to join

No matter how bad they fuck this game up, nobody can ever take This Is Our Time from you. Remember that.
youtube.com/watch?v=ek_EVouA-CI

xth for fuck stealth

pd2skills.com/#/v3/mGIKl:eGHJL:tPr:ibcdea:pM8:::
what should i put the remaining points into?

pd2skills.com/#/v3/mACDfGIjKl:eGHJLr:toR:fPr:ibcdea:pM8:::

Weapons, man!
Where's the guns!

>mfw noone takes Duck and Cover basic and Parkour aced
your armor won't help when you move like a brick

pd2skills.com/#/v3/mACDfGIjKl:eGHJLr:toR:fPr:ibcdea:pM8:::
happy?
the whole point is to be an unkillable cockbag so when your team inevitably fails you keep going

shit forgot about that when doing 'essential' skills
pd2skills.com/#/v3/mGIKl:eFGHjkLmNPr:tloR:gJlr:fPr:ibcdea:pM8:::

>die hard aced with ICTV
+20 armor to BALLISTIC vests, not 'all armor'

How do you judge distance in this game?
Like, how far reaching is 18 meters?

Use a sniper you nerd to see the distance

look at an objective and see how far away it is
really the only important one to keep track of is 7 meters shout distance for Inspire basic and ace

what's the best stelf heist where the main loot is gold? i just love gold as a loot item

Big Bank will have a bunch of gold
Framing Frame's big end thingy is gold
Shadow Raid I'm sure you'll find gold

94th for memes

>youtube.com/watch?v=zj0-DdRGy_I

>finish go bank solo stelf DW
>bain: "We won't even need a cleaner crew after that one, smooth!"
>i killed literally 25 civs

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>GO-fuck-yourself bank solo stelf DW
Jesus christ, why would you put yourself through that?

I'm not sure if I'm just really lucky or what, but I rarely have issues with it

Completed it without any restarts

No, the red sticker indicates that the painting is sold, you retard.

GUYS, THE THERMAL DRILL, GO GET IT