I consider God Hand to be the most skilled opponent of the series who didn't rely on supernatural force to compete.
The questions I have, however, are:
1. Is the concept of driving solely with one hand, with the other constantly on the shifter a more efficient technique if one is at an advanced enough level? Would forcing yourself to drive with one hand train you to steer more smoothly?
2. Is resting your hand on the shifter detrimental? I've heard conflicting opinions on the matter.
3. How does one cope with extreme turn angles steering with only one hand?
If you're really good at driving, can you be good if your car is FF? If Takumi had an AE92 or Civic or Mazda 323 instead, would he have done as well? My friend told me The point of Initial D was that if your car is RWD, and you have the skill, you can beat anyone. FWD does not have this advantage and must depend on its specs more.
Michael Fisher
>on an anime board
Carson Brown
>yeah yeah yeah shut the fuck up.
Was that really necessary if you were going to type out an actual reply anyway?
Grayson Allen
Aren't you boring.
Bentley Sanchez
kek
it was about skill, not drivetrain
Isaac Robinson
No one will ever recommend you drive one handed. You have half as much control. Although it may help in autocross since turns are tighter you should have your hands at 3 and 9
Michael Lewis
He wouldn't be able to pull of that drift stunt. FWD can't handle the power it cant do that. Ask Pepsifag, FWD is a compromise, cant ask front wheels to steer and put power down That's why I got the MX5 over the integra, 323 with a V6, honda civic b series swap, and ae92.
Brandon White
Have fun getting BTFO at autocross by a stock Prelude.
Also, fuck off Corey.
Also, saged.
Lucas Lee
Naw, the point of Initial D was that no matter how hard you work at something there will always be an autistic child who is better than you.
Samuel Walker
As nearly proven by the finale when Takumi meets Takumi Mk II.
Chase Murphy
>weebshit
Luke Campbell
Like /a/ is going to know what an engine even is.
Not that Veeky Forums is much better.
Ian Johnson
it's a fucking anime. Do you even drive?
Nicholas James
Takumi should have lost that race to be honest. It would be a better story then him struggling to win against someone who is basically him from before season 1. It would have been poignant and show that it's not about obsessing to win. It's really obvious who the Initial D kids are at my local track, they'll have some Japanese sport trim shitbox that is nearly stock or a Miata, when they don't land first top of the class they get really broken up and salty
Jaxon Davis
So they're the lvl 1 posers like Akina Speed Stars.
Landon Barnes
Take you're fucking gullible weeaboo ass back to .
We have enough fucktardedness here already.
Evan Adams
>Take you're
>We have enough fucktardedness here already
Clearly.
Samuel Baker
>not getting the meme
Get the fuck out faggot
Christopher Garcia
ignoring weeaboo shit don't rest your hand on the shifter, it wears shift forks faster than shit
Isaac Thomas
FF can have situational advantages over FR (see; Tsukuba) where it can plow through corners without fucks to give, but you won't be putting a Civic sideways.
It makes even less of a difference at stoplight racing. A Prelude shits on your Miata there, and the Prelude is made a whipping bitch of by a Mustang. The Mustang is then spitroasted by a "tastefully modded" Evo and STi, which in turn can be bent over and deflowered by someone in a Mustang with a more powerful engine.
The Mustang is eventually dethroned by a twin turbo Lambo, which is shortly chopped by a 1,000 horsepower Civic dressed up as a Bugatti.
Gavin Rogers
Misspelling "your" is a meme now? Okay.
Easton Foster
Less, they're more Itsuki level of ignorance and wanting to shit on others. Full on FF is shit, I'm a true enthusiast , meanwhile they get dominated by civics while they putt around in miatas. Worse is the ones who have gone full Takumi and "honed their skills" doing delivery and have actually modded their cars, but they can't drive worth shit. Then you have Driver autists who don't talk to anyone or interact. They get their time and ranking and leave. Stock Preludes actually do really well.
takumi losing to not-shinji ikari would've made it like a passing of the torch sort of thing too. the way he won wasn't even unreasonable, but all the asspull wins before it devalued it the point of irrelevance.
Luke Cooper
Newfag and kys, you've just got the whole arsenal, don't you. You should be proud.
Samuel Reed
ruining the FF stage by literally stray animal just so takumi would win against a better car and better driver was one of the worst asspulls
also it kind of killed the underdog narrative when takumi was not only a god among teenage drop outs and early 20 year old losers but also had a formula 1 engine and tuned suspension
William Moore
HEY I DRIVE AN S2K AND THAT MAKES ME THE BEST
Cooper Lopez
it was the car, god hand was shit and anyone who can drive a car could beat that pos ae86 with an s2000.
Jayden Cox
shingo would have easily beaten itsuki
Aiden Thompson
Ask Pepsifag
Cooper Ward
i'm right though drivetrain makes a difference, but it cant make up for a large difference in skill
Eli Wilson
The level of skill you would need to drive with one hand is pretty high, and if you were at that level of skill it would still be a handicap on how good you could drive with both hands on the wheel. There's a reason the really high end performance cars come with paddle shifters instead of a stick, your hands should always be near the wheel.
Nicholas Bennett
Two drivers of equal skill = RWD win. Really good driver o In FF vs good driver in really good car = RWD win Really good driver in rwd vs good driver on really good FF car = RWD win Ask Pepsifag
Jeremiah Ramirez
lol whatever man why would i ask pepsifag? he's just a trucker
Nathaniel Lewis
Pepsifag knows the truth about FF and RWD
David Thompson
>Shinji-ikari Kek
Justin Richardson
Ok let me tell you about not crossdressing arms when steering and steering one hand at a time. Its a habit thats good to have. Also em2 cant turn for shit at low speeds with its MacPherson struts but i can turn fully with one hand easy. Most things with powersteering are that way. Oh and as long as you arnt putting weight on the shifter when keeping your hand there your fine. >Forgetting about shingo. Also oversteering can be used as a positive. This might actually be true. That and life us filled with failing/failed relationships.
everything in intial d is BS if you tried most of that stuff on a actual road you would dead or severely injure. thats fact. no race driver steers with only one hand on the wheel unless he is a complete cock. especially once any car is sideways you need all concentration to focus and maintain control of the car.
Dylan Mitchell
Hello?
Logan Garcia
he looks even more like him in the manga
James Price
Hi.
Tyler Cox
the POS AE86 had a racecar engine dude.
Nathan Gonzalez
Anyone else experience this weird thing where they started cheering for Takumi's opponent?
Josiah Clark
>team emperor goes on an expedition to smash locals on their home turf >villains
>project d goes on an expedition to smash locals on their home turf its ok when the main characters do it
Wyatt Jones
Project D were LITERALLY the rich kids from another neighborhood going around pushing all the people's shit in.
Oliver Stewart
Didn't Richard Burns race with only one hand? In the WRC?
There's a driver here who drives with one hand. Coincidentally he's also driving an S2000
Jace Martin
Not really honestly, accepting the civic and godhand victories as full legit wins and not even trying to set up rematches with less extenuating circumstances is kinda shitty. Not exactly completely unsporting but it doesn't seem like the kind of thing that your hero protagonists should be so quick to accept.
Brandon Ortiz
Save for the evo dudes, all the fucking time since takumi started winning from full on asspulls, as in vs. Mx5 NA onward
Ayden Hernandez
Fuck I'm tired, I thought that read "animal".
Robert Cruz
Have you tried driving with one hand and masturbating with the other?
Same logic.
Robert Collins
Yes but I got the clove lodged in
Lincoln Gutierrez
this is true I think 2nd stage takumi beat emperor in akina then says it didn't feel like a win goes rematch and blows engine later on beats old man who's puking because downhill run turned into an endurance run yeah no rematch here
Matthew Cooper
This, takumis car was pretty much a street legal n2 car at that point. N2 cars are fast as shit
Mason Brown
(OP) Search Timo Salonen, he steer his car with one hand The concept behind the one hand steering is that, always keeping 17% of your wheel surface in contact with the ground for it's the most efficient state of drifting If you can manage that with two hands then no need to force yourself to learn to steer with one hand
As for the shifter, what this annon said
Adrian Baker
Because it's FR
Brayden Mitchell
you did not even mention the proper scenario at hand, being good driver in ff vs shit driver in fr
Josiah Scott
well yea they were not complete dicks to everyone like both of the lan evo crews
Sebastian Sanders
this
the putting weight on the shifter is what causes the problem of wear
Anthony Butler
it was kept free for smoking fags probably, he is a very heavy smoker
Juan King
I haven't watched the episode, but I can tell that that "technique" is complete bullshit. In fact, professional racecar drivers don't do this. If anything never taking your hand off the shifter will make you slower since now you have one hand not doing much of anything instead of being actively engaged in steering the car.
Samuel Rodriguez
Guy who has never driven detected
Samuel Murphy
Bump.
Adrian Peterson
race car drivers hold the wheel 100 different ways. Some shuffle, some don't, some drive with one hand for extended periods, some don't at all, some only shuffle on certain directions or types of corners. It makes no fucking difference.
The 10 and 2 meme is for teaching retarded normies to have their hands in a comfortable position that leaves the wheel mostly force neutral while allowing them to react safely to other normies crashing into them.
It has absolutely nothing to do with performance driving.
Jason Long
Why does FWD suck so bad... if Takumi was FWD he would lose every race
Nicholas Lopez
No he wouldn't idiot he almost got slapped by the ek9 but he got a lucky win
Evan Phillips
Anyone ever think it was kinda shitty that Project D was just Redsuns + Takumi? I was hoping that it'd have had other racers like Nakazato or the girls from Impact Blue. I really hoped that they'd have had a line up of drivers and rotated them for different races.
Julian Nguyen
You'll vomit mid race the moment you pass your opponent.
Levi Gutierrez
Shingo should have been in it. In fact the entire thing should have been about shingo, if there's an underdog story, its an eg6 racing against all these literal gods of cars. Also Shingo would mature over the story and learn the power of friendship and not just be a plain jane autistic spazz holy shit , initial D should have been about Shingo
Jayden Wood
After Keisuke ended up being a total faggot towards Kyoko, I ended up rooting for Project D's opponents. I was kinda hoping the Altezza driver would end up being a formidable opponent from out of nowhere.
Chase Barnes
you could fill a whole thread with things that should've been changed about the post-project d series, but the misuse and neglect of the supporting cast is one of the biggest.
>Also Shingo would mature over the story and learn the power of friendship they kinda did that with him & nakazato to be fair (and then they vanished from the narrative for a decade)
Jaxon Harris
No, I wanted an anime where the protagonist doesn't lose every race.
Jacob Thomas
Yea I agree you know the bit where ae86 gets the engine swap that would be replaced with the eg6 getting a full spoon tune but then i think the car would be too powerful and it would be unrealistic since in real life if you have a spoon tuned eg6 you basically have a street legal supercar
I'd love a story of Shingo struggling to get by while crashing his Civic in every single race. It'd be like an automotive version of Kaiji.
Zachary Morales
What and Takumi's AE86 with a formula 1 engine, tuned suspension, and race prepped chassis going against more or less stock street cars is OK?
Christian Price
yea well at the end of the day its just a corolla meanwhile the eg6 has the legendary b16 engine and vtec power
Cameron Price
>legendary b16 engine and vtec power
Luke Perry
Please God. Please God tell me this is a bait post
Lincoln Gray
>if you have a spoon tuned eg6 you basically have a street legal supercar
Easy there, fella.
Charles Baker
@1, it's no more or less efficient as long as you're not missing optimal shift points because you hesitantly avoid steering with one hand when the conditions call for it. It would make it harder to manhandle the steering and naturally incentivize you to avoid getting the car too far out of control. It will also train against the first thing I mentioned, in that you should know how to handle the steering just as well while upshifting or downshifting into corners.
@2, if you aren't exerting any force on the shifter I don't believe it'd be bad for the car, but I'm not mechanically knowledgeable enough to say if leaving the weight of your hand on the shifter at all is detrimental to the transmission. As for general safety, two hands can handle extreme situations more effectively 100%, but shifting or lack thereof can also cause losses of control or aide recovery, so it's not a good thing to ignore if you have the ability to shift.
@3, you don't really, which is why they made a point that he had extraordinary four wheel drifting technique that minimized countersteering and made it possible for him to only use one hand in all circumstances.
There's merit, though nothing prevents you from learning to drive essentially the same way with two hands and also driving as well with one hand during shift points, plus you have more control in the case of an accident or mechanical failure, so you probably wouldn't see it employed at a racing school over standard techniques.
Josiah Young
You'd also probably develop some mild to moderate muscle imbalances depending on the amount of power steering if you performance drove for years with only one of your arms.
Austin Bennett
Yeah but mx5 sucks and gay so it was alright
Jackson Young
Go with what works for you.
Gabriel Long
I thought miata battle was good and fair, the trick he used was interesting and proved his superior control over his vehicle, which he used to win the race.
Of all the battles, that one was not really that dickish.
Colton Carter
This. They were more impressed by God Hand's ability to minimize countersteer than anything.
Lincoln Hughes
nah
Ayden Hall
Nah what? Care to elaborate?
Jackson Gutierrez
That would be amazing. 10/10 would be shilled the gt86/toyobaru for a few episodes for that content.
Mason Mitchell
mazda 323 rwd with rotary swap wouldve been even better
Gavin Lee
shut up dude
Brody Miller
GOD HAND GOD HAND GOD HAND I AM A RACE CAR DRIVER FWD SUCKS
David Clark
What's with all this drivetrain shitposting, it has nothing to do with the thread. People ACTUALLY looking for ways to shitpost.
Justin Thomas
>confusing pulling the handbrake on a civic with actually racing