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Visual Novel General #1172

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This general is for the discussion of Japanese visual novels.

Kindly use spoiler tags appropriately when discussing plot spoilers to facilitate smooth discussion.

1st for Dies Irae in English is trash

Can you not fuck with the OP? Retard.

Reminder that monolingual fags aren't allowed.

What did she mean by this?

t. JOP desperately trying to validate his wasted time learning a dead language

If Subahibi doesn't come out today I'm ending it.

Reminder that Japanese is a waste of time and if you're better of learning literally any other language.

Sour grapes. :-)

That meme is old and busted now. Dies irae is the new shit

I don't even really give a shit about DI. I hate chuuni garbage.

>Dies irae is the new shit
I agree. Dies irae is shit.

No one cares about trash like you though.

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Better than Russians

I mean... not really. There's some really good Japanese authors in general, some of whom write VNs (Ou Jackson), but VNs themselves aren't generally remarkably well written. It's English VN translations that tend to be poor.

Well...you cared enough to reply so...

Ask /jp/, not here

Now that the translation has been confirmed Dies Irae has lost its kamige status right?

>asking for a nonbiased opinion here of all places
Dude.

ENG Dies is separate from JP Dies. The former is a completely different game and kusoge, yes.

Yes there are elements in Japanese speech that just sound better in Japanese. You don't need to learn Japanese, you just need to demand better translations. The Devotion of Suspect X was expertly translated.

>be Masada
>write chuuni garbage that would make a 12 year-old deviantart user cringe
>have to figure out a way to make my new visual novel "deep"
>"Oh I got it"
>read Thus Spoke Zarathustra
>steal all the philosophy from it and put it in my chuunige
>trick retarded otaku into thinking its the deepest shit ever
Feels good.

t. sub 50 IQ retard

Hahaha JOP on suicide watch

The problem is that people who read eroge in Japanese either don't read "real" literature at all or they're blind fanboys so they won't give you an unbiased answer

Why is it ok when Scaji does it? Oh thats right Scaji can actually write.

Please educate yourselves before you embarrass yourselves any further.

bait

But you're literally proving right because it just confirms that it's all ripped off from Nietzsche

The hilarious thing is no one in /jp/ even cares. Why are these threads so mired in shit posting?

What a shame.

Let us stop this bullshit right fucking now. I can't believe I'm the only one who doesn't read books. I have my own philosophy, I don't need anyone else's.

Then you can't appreciate Dies, sorry.

>why is /vn/ mired in shitposting
Son, thats like asking why water is wet.

EOP can't even be bothered to read English.

>reading books
wow I didn't realize we had so many fucking nerds here. I thought /vn/ was cool.

Just post lesbians.

You have to be 18+ to post on Veeky Forums.

Why does every supposed kamige have this baggage of 'you must read X philosophers' works to understand this'.

No one ever says shit like that about great works for literature.
Have you ever heard someone say "You should really read Kant before Hamlet" or "To understand Proust you need to read Descartes" or "Plato is required reading before the Odyssey"?

It sounds to me like rather than being good literature it is just pseudointellectual posturing.

You don't seem very smart.

Next thing you know /vn/ will fall in love with garbage like the communist manifesto. German lit is shit.

Why don't you read what you're talking about instead of attacking strawmen? I'm going to quote exactly what Kastel said:
"the people who love reading geothe's faust, nietzsche, sterne... literature folks will definitely be more of what will eventually be fans"

That is just kastel and his autism.

I've been learning japanese for over two years now, and all I've seen is how begging and complaining nets you more than putting in any actual effort. Everything I've wanted to read has either been translated, or has plans to be translated. You don't receive anything for your work other than spit in your face.

Fuck this shitty language, I could have done so many worthwhile things in those two years instead.

>caring about autistic pseuds on twitter

Too obvious of a falseflag, little EOP.

Because the "best" literature is almost always a circle jerk book for people that love to read literature. It's some weird incestual feedback loop. Look at sakura no uta or catcher in the rye.

t. sub 50 IQ retard

Fucking stop right there. There aren't many kamiges so all of them will eventually get translated. There are nigh infinite solid games out there which will never get picked up though. We learn japanese for them and for liking the language. Don't give up

Yeah... I'm with you there. I'm so fucking mad that my kamige keep getting sold off to these disgusting EOPs... and then they have the gall to shit up the thread with shit like, "OOOH WE HAVE X NOW HAHAHAHA LOOK AT US"

I'm seriously fucking sick of it. Why the fuck did I even bother learning this shitty language in the first place. Fuck this shit. I fucking hate everything about this garbage.

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We real JOPs are just reading VNs completely chill right now you know. This is just funny to see.

>Obvious EOP who couldn't get past hiragana.

They can't be doing this to us. It HAS to be a joke. It has to be a fucking set up. There's no FUCKING way DI is getting translated NO WAY.

I will FUCKING murder the shit out of Conjueror and his fucking cronies for ruining this for me
NORMIES DONT DESERVE DI FUCKING DISGUSTING EOPS DONT DESERVE DI

They aren't getting DI. They're just getting something that distantly resembles it, but is something entirely different.

A JOP hyped by an english yuri VN release...
Also... Can you not fuck with the OP? Baka.

O-oh.. y-yeah. Right. Uh-huh. Yup. I'm totally reading visual novels right now. *sniff* *sniff*

Quof, pls. These fuckers who couldn't get bothered to learn new shit don't deserve DI

Together we can make /vn/ great again

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But that is actually true, books that reference other books tend to be received welk from critics, the same is true in cinema. Critics like to be able to understand references no one else is going to understand, In sakura no uta how they hell are you supposed to understand and appreciate the oscar wilde portion if you did not know he was a homosexual pedo?

I wanted Ano to win.

Who's that cute girl on the left?

Don't post kusoge here.

For fondling.

Only in /vn/ could a great announcement be made and the shitposting get even worse.

I thought we were back on the right track yesterday, but this thread and the previous one are fucking terrible.

its just JOP shitposters very upset that english speakers are getting their precious toys

@152295407
Okay I'll continue not posting kusoge.

They have every right to be in this case.

There is a reason why this gen has split so many times.

This.
>t-the split improved our thread guys!
But the shitposting has just got worse. So much for the moegefags being the "problem".

Even if Dies Irae does get translated, the translation wouldn't be the same as the original so why would JOPs get mad?

>So much for the moegefags being the "problem".
no one ever suggested that except for the JOP tard that spams "t." memes and also likes to spoil games and spam shit from discord for the sake of attention whoring.

It's going to end up like Cross Channel where people read it and say "I don't get what the big deal is" and other such posts.

Because EOPs will get the superior version.

Everyone wanted Ano to win

>he thinks the moefags left
>he thinks the moefags haven't ramped up the shitposting to promote their new split general
>he thinks "well I guess the moefags weren't the problem after all" isn't a reverse trolling strategy
>he's implying he isn't a moefag

We already have a bunch of "overrated" posts from people who have never read it, and it's only going to get worse when people read a butchered version of it.

Most western readers aren't going to realize that, and the game will likely create a large casual western fanbase.

>all these JOP still so early in the grief cycle
Man you guys are sad lol

When will the "Dies Irae was never that good" damage control start?

Never, it's a kamige. Only in Japanese though.

That announcement wasn't that great because it's the same as BS; an english peasants edition.
Aka castraded/censored version.

Already the JOP are on suicide watch as their kusoge is about the be revealed as crap. How much longer until they move the goal post to, "I-I never really liked it anyway..." pathetic lmao

What are the routes in this?
I feel like I'm on the wrong one.

You're aware the moe thread is pretty much on life support, right? The moefriends are back. Though it's not like they ever left in the first place.

Now how about we stop the meta discussion and talk about VNs?

English readers, I'm happy for you guys that you are finally going to be able to read DI. But I just feel the need to get you guys as prepared as possible.

Release is only a year away, but you aren't going to be able to read DI right away. DI aspires to be something greater than most other VNs, so it's important that you make sure you use some outside readingin order to have the best possible experience.

In short, to fully understand the intricacies and depth of DI, you're going to need to study Philosophy and German lit for about 2-3 years.

For philosophy, you're going to want to start by building a strong base with the Greeks and moving throughout history until you end up hitting modern continental philosophy.

On the German literature side, you're going to want to start in the 16th century and move through the different authors and movements all the way up until the end of the interwar period.

Special consideration needs to be given to Hegel, as DI is strongly influence by his work "Phänomenologie des Geistes". After Hegel, make sure you develop a strong background with the Young Hegelians and Nietzsche, as their influence on DI can't be discounted either.

After you ensure that you build a proper knowledge base, I'm sure you will be able to fully appreciate just how good Dies Irae is.

No need to be upset you're getting a downgraded version user, just accept it and move on.

/moe/ has more unique posters and is just moving on its own pace. Not sure if it will make it in the long run, but I doubt it will go away so fast.

VNs only become kamige in English, the objectively superior language.

Wrong thread, fuck off.

yeah, naw. I'll read it and interpret things how I see fit for maximum enjoyment

I actually did most of that in college, the rest was picked up from family and just going through life.

So while I understand the point of your post was to make a joke, I actually meet all of those criteria you set.

LOL you are retarded kill yourself EOP

>/moe/
What the fuck, aren't all VN moe anyway?

no

Not all of them obviously, but never underestimate user's retardation.

Are you telling me you read books, German books? Go away, nerd. Here is for japanese porn. Fuck off, kastel

Is Clannad a good visual novel?