This general is for the discussion of Japanese visual novels.
Kindly use spoiler tags appropriately when discussing plot spoilers to facilitate smooth discussion.
Logan Cooper
1st for Dies Irae in English is trash
Wyatt Barnes
Can you not fuck with the OP? Retard.
Jordan Miller
Reminder that monolingual fags aren't allowed.
Aaron King
What did she mean by this?
Cooper Jones
t. JOP desperately trying to validate his wasted time learning a dead language
Christopher Reed
If Subahibi doesn't come out today I'm ending it.
Austin Howard
Reminder that Japanese is a waste of time and if you're better of learning literally any other language.
Lincoln Long
Sour grapes. :-)
Nathan Bailey
That meme is old and busted now. Dies irae is the new shit
Ayden Miller
I don't even really give a shit about DI. I hate chuuni garbage.
Andrew Butler
>Dies irae is the new shit I agree. Dies irae is shit.
Ayden Morgan
No one cares about trash like you though.
Landon Cooper
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Brandon Johnson
Better than Russians
Nicholas Barnes
I mean... not really. There's some really good Japanese authors in general, some of whom write VNs (Ou Jackson), but VNs themselves aren't generally remarkably well written. It's English VN translations that tend to be poor.
Evan Campbell
Well...you cared enough to reply so...
Luke Powell
Ask /jp/, not here
Juan Roberts
Now that the translation has been confirmed Dies Irae has lost its kamige status right?
Brody Thompson
>asking for a nonbiased opinion here of all places Dude.
Aiden Mitchell
ENG Dies is separate from JP Dies. The former is a completely different game and kusoge, yes.
Logan Kelly
Yes there are elements in Japanese speech that just sound better in Japanese. You don't need to learn Japanese, you just need to demand better translations. The Devotion of Suspect X was expertly translated.
Landon Evans
>be Masada >write chuuni garbage that would make a 12 year-old deviantart user cringe >have to figure out a way to make my new visual novel "deep" >"Oh I got it" >read Thus Spoke Zarathustra >steal all the philosophy from it and put it in my chuunige >trick retarded otaku into thinking its the deepest shit ever Feels good.
Lincoln Johnson
t. sub 50 IQ retard
Jason Baker
Hahaha JOP on suicide watch
Ethan James
The problem is that people who read eroge in Japanese either don't read "real" literature at all or they're blind fanboys so they won't give you an unbiased answer
James Wright
Why is it ok when Scaji does it? Oh thats right Scaji can actually write.
Henry Edwards
Please educate yourselves before you embarrass yourselves any further.
Nicholas Johnson
bait
Hunter White
But you're literally proving right because it just confirms that it's all ripped off from Nietzsche
Isaac Clark
The hilarious thing is no one in /jp/ even cares. Why are these threads so mired in shit posting?
Jordan Perry
What a shame.
Andrew Campbell
Let us stop this bullshit right fucking now. I can't believe I'm the only one who doesn't read books. I have my own philosophy, I don't need anyone else's.
Juan Butler
Then you can't appreciate Dies, sorry.
Aaron Martin
>why is /vn/ mired in shitposting Son, thats like asking why water is wet.
Xavier Long
EOP can't even be bothered to read English.
Jaxon Collins
>reading books wow I didn't realize we had so many fucking nerds here. I thought /vn/ was cool.
Charles Flores
Just post lesbians.
Aiden Lee
You have to be 18+ to post on Veeky Forums.
Blake Cooper
Why does every supposed kamige have this baggage of 'you must read X philosophers' works to understand this'.
No one ever says shit like that about great works for literature. Have you ever heard someone say "You should really read Kant before Hamlet" or "To understand Proust you need to read Descartes" or "Plato is required reading before the Odyssey"?
It sounds to me like rather than being good literature it is just pseudointellectual posturing.
William Green
You don't seem very smart.
Brody Price
Next thing you know /vn/ will fall in love with garbage like the communist manifesto. German lit is shit.
Landon Diaz
Why don't you read what you're talking about instead of attacking strawmen? I'm going to quote exactly what Kastel said: "the people who love reading geothe's faust, nietzsche, sterne... literature folks will definitely be more of what will eventually be fans"
Cameron Garcia
That is just kastel and his autism.
Aaron Powell
I've been learning japanese for over two years now, and all I've seen is how begging and complaining nets you more than putting in any actual effort. Everything I've wanted to read has either been translated, or has plans to be translated. You don't receive anything for your work other than spit in your face.
Fuck this shitty language, I could have done so many worthwhile things in those two years instead.
Dylan Myers
>caring about autistic pseuds on twitter
Easton Ramirez
Too obvious of a falseflag, little EOP.
Juan Nelson
Because the "best" literature is almost always a circle jerk book for people that love to read literature. It's some weird incestual feedback loop. Look at sakura no uta or catcher in the rye.
Isaiah Garcia
t. sub 50 IQ retard
Anthony Evans
Fucking stop right there. There aren't many kamiges so all of them will eventually get translated. There are nigh infinite solid games out there which will never get picked up though. We learn japanese for them and for liking the language. Don't give up
Nolan Watson
Yeah... I'm with you there. I'm so fucking mad that my kamige keep getting sold off to these disgusting EOPs... and then they have the gall to shit up the thread with shit like, "OOOH WE HAVE X NOW HAHAHAHA LOOK AT US"
I'm seriously fucking sick of it. Why the fuck did I even bother learning this shitty language in the first place. Fuck this shit. I fucking hate everything about this garbage.
Nathan Price
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Michael Allen
We real JOPs are just reading VNs completely chill right now you know. This is just funny to see.
Oliver Cook
>Obvious EOP who couldn't get past hiragana.
Sebastian Cox
They can't be doing this to us. It HAS to be a joke. It has to be a fucking set up. There's no FUCKING way DI is getting translated NO WAY.
I will FUCKING murder the shit out of Conjueror and his fucking cronies for ruining this for me NORMIES DONT DESERVE DI FUCKING DISGUSTING EOPS DONT DESERVE DI
Owen Edwards
They aren't getting DI. They're just getting something that distantly resembles it, but is something entirely different.
John Walker
A JOP hyped by an english yuri VN release... Also... Can you not fuck with the OP? Baka.
Quof, pls. These fuckers who couldn't get bothered to learn new shit don't deserve DI
Levi Butler
Together we can make /vn/ great again
Eli Nguyen
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Landon Edwards
But that is actually true, books that reference other books tend to be received welk from critics, the same is true in cinema. Critics like to be able to understand references no one else is going to understand, In sakura no uta how they hell are you supposed to understand and appreciate the oscar wilde portion if you did not know he was a homosexual pedo?
Logan Adams
I wanted Ano to win.
Adam Sanchez
Who's that cute girl on the left?
Blake Gomez
Don't post kusoge here.
Jeremiah Rodriguez
For fondling.
Brody Allen
Only in /vn/ could a great announcement be made and the shitposting get even worse.
I thought we were back on the right track yesterday, but this thread and the previous one are fucking terrible.
Jordan Smith
its just JOP shitposters very upset that english speakers are getting their precious toys
Ryan Jenkins
@152295407 Okay I'll continue not posting kusoge.
Gavin King
They have every right to be in this case.
Michael Green
There is a reason why this gen has split so many times.
Ian James
This. >t-the split improved our thread guys! But the shitposting has just got worse. So much for the moegefags being the "problem".
Joshua Nelson
Even if Dies Irae does get translated, the translation wouldn't be the same as the original so why would JOPs get mad?
Landon Rodriguez
>So much for the moegefags being the "problem". no one ever suggested that except for the JOP tard that spams "t." memes and also likes to spoil games and spam shit from discord for the sake of attention whoring.
Colton Gutierrez
It's going to end up like Cross Channel where people read it and say "I don't get what the big deal is" and other such posts.
Chase Walker
Because EOPs will get the superior version.
Carter Hughes
Everyone wanted Ano to win
Julian Murphy
>he thinks the moefags left >he thinks the moefags haven't ramped up the shitposting to promote their new split general >he thinks "well I guess the moefags weren't the problem after all" isn't a reverse trolling strategy >he's implying he isn't a moefag
Brody Walker
We already have a bunch of "overrated" posts from people who have never read it, and it's only going to get worse when people read a butchered version of it.
Landon Harris
Most western readers aren't going to realize that, and the game will likely create a large casual western fanbase.
Levi Cook
>all these JOP still so early in the grief cycle Man you guys are sad lol
Henry Torres
When will the "Dies Irae was never that good" damage control start?
John James
Never, it's a kamige. Only in Japanese though.
John Stewart
That announcement wasn't that great because it's the same as BS; an english peasants edition. Aka castraded/censored version.
Sebastian Garcia
Already the JOP are on suicide watch as their kusoge is about the be revealed as crap. How much longer until they move the goal post to, "I-I never really liked it anyway..." pathetic lmao
Tyler Cook
What are the routes in this? I feel like I'm on the wrong one.
David Brown
You're aware the moe thread is pretty much on life support, right? The moefriends are back. Though it's not like they ever left in the first place.
Now how about we stop the meta discussion and talk about VNs?
Ethan Bell
English readers, I'm happy for you guys that you are finally going to be able to read DI. But I just feel the need to get you guys as prepared as possible.
Release is only a year away, but you aren't going to be able to read DI right away. DI aspires to be something greater than most other VNs, so it's important that you make sure you use some outside readingin order to have the best possible experience.
In short, to fully understand the intricacies and depth of DI, you're going to need to study Philosophy and German lit for about 2-3 years.
For philosophy, you're going to want to start by building a strong base with the Greeks and moving throughout history until you end up hitting modern continental philosophy.
On the German literature side, you're going to want to start in the 16th century and move through the different authors and movements all the way up until the end of the interwar period.
Special consideration needs to be given to Hegel, as DI is strongly influence by his work "Phänomenologie des Geistes". After Hegel, make sure you develop a strong background with the Young Hegelians and Nietzsche, as their influence on DI can't be discounted either.
After you ensure that you build a proper knowledge base, I'm sure you will be able to fully appreciate just how good Dies Irae is.
Bentley Bell
No need to be upset you're getting a downgraded version user, just accept it and move on.
Carson Howard
/moe/ has more unique posters and is just moving on its own pace. Not sure if it will make it in the long run, but I doubt it will go away so fast.
Joshua Turner
VNs only become kamige in English, the objectively superior language.
Cooper Ortiz
Wrong thread, fuck off.
Hunter Martinez
yeah, naw. I'll read it and interpret things how I see fit for maximum enjoyment
Ian Wilson
I actually did most of that in college, the rest was picked up from family and just going through life.
So while I understand the point of your post was to make a joke, I actually meet all of those criteria you set.
Alexander Mitchell
LOL you are retarded kill yourself EOP
Liam Perez
>/moe/ What the fuck, aren't all VN moe anyway?
William Stewart
no
Xavier Cruz
Not all of them obviously, but never underestimate user's retardation.
Hunter Thomas
Are you telling me you read books, German books? Go away, nerd. Here is for japanese porn. Fuck off, kastel