/edg&scg/: Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous #17

Uninspired and repetitive as games nowadays are, many a disillusioned fan don’t hesitate to call out the medium as fallen. Along comes Elite Dangerous, the latest entry to gaming self-critique and introspection.

On the surface Elite Dangerous seems like your ordinary game which is seemingly unremarkable but whose charm is so irresistible yet so subtle, that the people who've played it cannot but fall for it, much to the frustration of some self proclaimed "fathers of vision" who cannot see any logic to these affections. Os et labra tibi lingit, Manneia, catellus: non miror, merdas si libet esse cani.

Unlike our hack-ridden gaming industry, Elite Dangerous uses metaphors in an excruciatingly subtle way. Sharp-eyed spectators should be able to spot the humanistic properties Elite Dangerous displays. Elite Dangerous is a self-aware and self-referencing work. It points out the flaws and implausibilities which often plague its genre, yet offers no alternative. Though criticized for conforming to its genre without innovation, composing the rest of the game with uninspiring features essential in achieving what Elite Dangerous wishes to do. While it does highlight the unrealism which plagues the gaming community, it also serves to illustrate the irrationality of passion and infatuation, which which is shown by the hatred often spewed at this masterpiece. Poor Elite is left with naught, but to hunger evermore.

The team is aware of the flaws and tropes in their work, but artistic integrity has to be weighed against the harsh market. Even so, no artist wishes to make hollow trash as much as “fathers of vision” so often may think. Behind these stories are genuine emotions, far more so than half-assed criticisms by blind followers of objectivism.

Citizen Dangerous: EliteStar

Elite Citizen : Dangerous Star

Dangerous Star: Elite Citizen

hmmmm

How the fuck do you make money in elite now? I just went to sothis and they shut it the fuck down with """"plot""""

youtube.com/watch?v=XE7WPstMzsM
youtube.com/watch?v=7CBVqqRAwXs
youtube.com/watch?v=fMXzhbGuKY0

Even in latin that punctuation can't be right

i made around 150 mil in a turret farm :^)
dunno if they fixed it

>147

>tfw you revived a tasty meme

Have another

forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/311410/le-corner-de-bragger-s/p2

Reasonable spending of dadbucks incoming

the other guy said elite had no gravity wells

is this some new feature?

No plot it just got UA bombed.

The gamescom presentation looked cool but the missions are still the "go to point A, download thing, shoot pirates on point B" type. I'm really hoping that'll see some of the rescue/salvage/mining/escort/cargo/hunting missions. I can understand that they want some depth in the combat aspect but some slight diversity would be cool and starting to showcase it would be great.

I just did a protect a security station, so there's FPS missions if you're interested now.

There needs to be walking around in stations.

Got some fat cash in my wallet but not that much fat cash

should I upgrade my Aurora to a 300i or an Avenger Titan?

youtube.com/watch?v=XY7E0DEp5yI

where can I grind federation rep?

>dads in the gulag arguing ED is more of a sim than a game

What's a turret farm? I haven't touched this game in ages.

There are gravity wells with planets you can land on from what I can tell. Once you get close enough the planet will start pulling you towards it. The only reason you can't orbit a planet is that there is a limit to how fast your ship can go. You'd need to be going at sufficient speed to counteract gravity and go around the planet.

At the end of the day all that is still 'get thing take to place, shoot mans' etc. With different dressing salving and mining dont really need job ordets aka quests associated to make them happen

I thought the economic goal was to have players give others quests?

Like the ceo of a guild would ask mercenaries to protect his cargo container so he can sell weapons in another system or something.

Yeah but the fetch quests are truly simplistic right now by being just "download or press this button", same for the combat quests, you could have some interesting missions where you have to track the guy by analysing his EM or QD signature remnants.

Haven't checked the FPS content that much, I hope there will be some interesting choices to make like battle rifles against assault rifles, etc.

Are any cheap ships that I can actually fit a mate in?

I know the Aurora has a bed in the back but theres not really an actual place for him to sit and see whats going on

Yeah but the majority will still be npc

there was a crate with a shotgun, a sniper and a ballistic rifle and you have a few minutes to set up defences

Does anyone have that pic that shows all of the wasted money and effort on Star Citizen?

I saw it mentioned in the previous thread and now i'm curious.

alight with combat focused power
get turrets
go to crime sweep
and afk farm it
ai there is so dumb that it will never touch you
trade in merits and collect your weekly salary

In the aurora, mustang or avenger he can just stand behind you and see the action with no trouble

Does the game not freak out when you start doing spins and going fast without actually being cemented to a seat?

Nah you can even walk around during maneuvers just fine. It can be disorienting for the player but there's no sliding around or anything like you might expect.

Will that work in an asp explorer? Or should I get something more combat oriented?

sweet

Now they just need to remove the thumbhole stocks and make the rifles a little bit less bulky, something like the MSBS would be great.

they fixed it last patch AFAIK

oh, ok
i haven't logged in in about a month

Yes, ever since 2.0

Someone just dropped UAs at Ceos, got like five news updates already. Can anybody drop some meta-alloys here?

Doctor Smart?

>be lefty
>try bullpup for the first time
>experience new kinds of pain as the bolt grabs my goddamn ear through the ejection port and attempts to chamber it

>I'm CIG

>You aren't allowed to bring goons

Does anyone have the picture that shows the time, money and effort wasted on Star Citizen?

Someone mentioned it in a previous thread and it made me curious.

I'm looking forward to the game but it's been nagging me how many times ships have been redesigned and all the stuff that's be done and redone so many times.

I bet you wanted to give the designer a real earful

>not using a bullpup with interchangeable ejection port when lefty
Even the FAMAS does that, why would you be retarded?

those are some perfect tits

Oh you.

Never tried one before and it was handed to me at a range.

When can I play the gamescom build? I think its 3.0?

End of the year if they are on time.

2017

are they usually on time with the updates?

how does dlc system work in elite dangerous? On steam there's basic game and horizons season pass, so I guess there's no "regular" season pass which grants you access to all future dlcs
So if I for example buy this deluxe commander or whatever it's called edition I get basic game and horizons dlc but I will have to buy separately any future dlc?

Really no way of telling.

They've delayed shit a lot and also been ahead of schedule.

kek

fuck off newfag

Anyone remember Black Prophecy?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Prophecy

Is there a way to play it after the servers shut down? Have the core files leaked to create maybe a private server or some shit? I really liked it ;_;

Most likely. I don't think they'll ever release a complete season pass with all future DLC since they're taking "Season" in the most literal sense possible. Maybe if they release a super founders edition for $200 packaged with an Ocellus Startport buttplug for extra gaming immersion.

>tfw black prophecy didnt live long enough for #blackpropheciesmatter to be a thing

I feel like it might end like payday 2 with all these dlcs
Guess I'm gonna wait for next season to come out and buy it all on Christmas steam sale or on the next one if it won't be out by December

is there anything to fucking do in elite yet

I bought it the week it came out, flew around with some buds, did some bounty hunting, then we all got bored and went back to other shit

also is the emissions system actually a thing now? That always pissed me off, how there's explicitly a display in your cockpit showing how easy you are to detect and you can do things to minimize it but ultimately you can't do neat stealth shit or anything

>People bombed Ceos with UAs because they think they think they know better about how people should play the game.

Forumdads, ladies and gentlemen. The one and only species of trash I wouldn't mind gunning down.

What is this?

When's today's ED stream? The convention's not over, is it?

Right now

youtube.com/watch?v=aYHJY9JZNBA

What's this UA stuff? I just started doing long hauls from sothis

Holy shit I forgot about Black Prophecy. Why did it end up failing? I was excited for it since you'd be piloting it from the cockpit and it was an mmo.

Unknown Artifacts.

Part of the mystery of the soon incoming Thargoid invasion.

They are corrosive and will damage modules while in your cargo bay.

Selling them in quantity to stations will damage the station and take services offline until you bring meta alloys to it to repair them.

thank

The Thargoid reveal is today, right?

What a bunch of faggota

Fuck off dads.
This is literally the only way players have had any impact on the universe.

I'm sorry your grind is interrupted, how about dealing with it and finding something else to do.

Heat always worked. If you're in a dark spot, turn off all your shit and you'll be practically invisible even to sensors.
I got ambushed a couple times like that.

It may not work so good as AI though.

In E:D the planets orbit and so do stars and other stellar objects.

I guess you could say you technically also orbit when you're in an instance that's orbiting around something but you can't make freeform orbits kerbal style.

I hope that ship transfer stuff doesn't get fucked up, is it for base too or just horizons?

>dads are against grinding
>dads are grinding
What is it now?

How about you?

Player agency is only a good mechanic if it can lead to fun outcomes. All this does is shit things up for every party involved.

The quality of life improvements are for everyone.

I mean, I get wanting to start out with your dream ship.
But why buy 20 of the same ship? Why not just buy one of the bigger ships just once?

>let's make the most reliable way of grinding useless to everybody
>you can't play how you want!
>stop trying to have fun!
Faggots

I've literally never been able to pull stealth shit off

and then there aren't any ships built to capitalize on that, or ships designed to counter those ships. ED could have it's own EWAR system based around thermal emissions and shit but instead you get this system that feels mostly tacked on.

Dads are the ones complaining about UA bombing.
Calling 'griefing' and shit

Can someone who plays Star Citizen tell me if my friend is bullshitting me about there being some sort of grind system in the game where every ship is grindable with game credits? I had the impression you just throw them $50-400 to get a ship and that's your ship until you throw them more $.

Me? A dad? Because I don't enjoy the fucking mindless grind? Go fuck yourself.

I can't stand around and play the game all day like the UA NEETs can. You fucks all do nothing to improve the game and sit here on your asses pointing fingers and laughing like the dumb shits you are. This community is as toxic as the sludge that you get in military camp.

Some of you guys are alright, don't dock in Lave tomorrow.

All of the ships can be bought with ingame currency.
The ones you bought with real cash will have lifetime insurance, though.

SPOOKY BRABEN

AYY LMAO

Okay, sounds much more reasonable then.

>Ceos
Who even cares about Ceos though? I got enough missions on Sothis to fill 400t of stuff and get 50mill per haul.

jubjubnest.net/~wace/elite/trilateration-math.html

The autism, reminds me of that EVE document about fighting and Transversal Velocity mathematics.

>unloading T9 and seeing those millions of credits pouring in
What an cathartic experience

>400t
>tfw I'm too poor to get anything over 64t
I just want more money so I can get rid of this fucking type 6