/evog/ - Evolve General

So I played the Deep Dark, and here's what I think.

Pros:
>Interesting voice-over
>Fighting 10 Gorgons at once was cool
>Dramatic lightning actually adds a lot to the game

Cons:
>voice-over got repetitive real quick
>the map was insanely linear and the enemies attacked at the same part each time

I liked the direction of the map, but I wouldn't play such a linear gamemode multiple times, especially since it seems to be more of an experience rather than a level. Love the atmosphere though, and the Gorgon skin was fucking badass.

Deepest Dark or whatever it's called is so stupid. They should just release the old modes back. Yes, these modes will be broken but they can only fix it through our feedback. Feedback of thousands of players will be better than their small QA team.

Also, why the fuck are new maps not out yet? too small for the planet scanner you say? Just blend two of them together, Idk do something TRS SAVE YOUR FUCKING GAME.

I wish this game wasn't fun but it really is.

As much as I hate the people who play this game, it's still a guilty pleasure. I'll ride it out until the bitter end, but I've given up on seeing Behemoth or any maps come back
At least Paladin Parnell might be fun to mess with before the patch kills whats left of the game

Press F to pay respects

OBDUCTION is out and piratable
Valley is kinda fun
INSIDE is cracked
RoTR is cracked too
few more games come out before September

You have shit to do user

>playing as sunny
>team actually utilizes the jet boost properly and goes towards the drone
what's this weird emotion i'm feeling...is this what fun is?

I don't know what any of those are.

They're all games, not sure why he's listing them

Just found out daisy is affected by Maggies perks by randomly playing with a trs dev. Might try the full movement speed setup he was doing

>TRS devs playing the game
uh oh they probably saw some of the shit i said in chat

Tried it and it improves Daisy a little bit, but her AI can't be helped. Also, you still need someone to follow Daisy and because you're the trapper, you'll need to rely on one of the other hunters to do so.

First game I tried it daisy got stuck at spawn. Trs dev actually made her look good when he played as her

The problem is, is that you need to be literally next to her for her to start tracking. If no one is next to her, she stops tracking and becomes retarded. And sometimes, even when you are next to her, she doesn't even function and will get stuck on the terrain.

I get that, she just wouldn't move period. Maggie is better than I originally thought at least. She's no Abe or crow but she did pretty well. Gonna start playing as her and try to actually git gud with her harpoon traps since I need a new trapper to play as

Ya her AI completely borks sometimes. I recommend trying Jack once you get bored of Maggie if you haven't already tried him. Personally, he's my favorite trapper just because of how good the repulsor is. In my opinion it can be better than Griffin because not only can it be used to save your teammates, but it also increases his personal survivability tenfold. I've had games where I was the last survivor after a near team wipe and survived the till the drop ship timer just be properly kiting, dodging, and using the repulsor.

No you won't. make 10 ms and turn your script on only when fighting monster so you can have 5 bursts per clip

Trying out wraith since hunters stopped playing, wow you can't afford not to get out the second the dome drops, you have waay too little health to commit further. Renegabe is literally your worst nightmare.

I know what that's like as a gorgon player. The small amount of health means Cabot is actually scary as fuck and the chase damage from renegabe is insane.

I have to wonder, is the game really dying because TRS are just genuine idiots at balancing/updating games, or is it because the general video game player these days isn't interested in asymmetrical gameplay like this?

I fucking love this game of gameplay, loved the fuck out of the Versus mode in L4D 1 and 2, but you really don't see a lot of this stuff in games, which makes me wonder if there's even really a market for it. Pretty sure L4D was way more popular for it's campaign mode too, though I really didn't care about that.

Its both
There was never enough to keep casuals interested. Playing the monster was too intimidating for a lot of people which left semi-repetitive hunter play. The multiplayer focus/lack of a proper campaign was enough to eventually turn people away
Really, Evolve is a niche game that never should have been shown/hyped as a AAA game. You had everything you needed for a budget game with an average but dedicated fanbase, but everyone (both devs and casuals) thought it could be so much more. That wouldnt have been so bad if TRS and 2K didn't make every bad decision possible along the way, with misleading season passes and the inability to fix things

>no parnell man eater skin in store

WTF TRShit

can we get some people for a little bit of coop grind? these map skipping and match delaying retards are a real fucking pain in the ass

>can we get some people for a little bit of coop grind?
>Needing people
>for co op

Jesus fuck

Yeah but gorgon has a way better traversal to flee. If you don't save your warp blast you might as well say gg right here.

hotfixed AI speedbug my ass, just had another turbo goliath that was already long gone even when people tried to intercept its path

team caught it twice but then eventually the timer ran out because it was gone in seconds from where you'd think it was heading/where it was

Wow great AAA post and reading comprehension, my tranny friend.

a patch and a hotfix from TRS and
>AI speedbugs not completely fixed
>matchmaking issues
>if you take over a bot hunter you can run at ridiculous speeds, like at the speed a hacker would

they've fucked up the whole game in just 2 patches like they are speeding up its death on purpose again

and the retarded playerbase is repeatedly leaving lobbies in coop just to get to play that shit new wraith trap variant even though it's absolute shit, it's a challenge to get to play a single game now

I know what will fix ALL our issues. Nerf the hunters some more and buff the monsters.

I find that sometimes hunters get through my armor as stage one and I agree that they need nerfs

youtube.com/watch?v=5OZeDS9TrO4

evolveupdates.com/deepestdark/
lol that score

it doesn't help that retards are trying to get the new variant map instead of just playing normally

>evolveupdates.com/deepestdark/
rip paladin parnell

as a founder I am getting him anyway... but that shit needs to get to 66k

>evolveupdates.com/deepestdark/

kek. I personally don't care much because I have 170k keys from the weekend event.

Americans are still waking up. Too early to judge.

amerisharts to the rescue

What's worse posters?
Wasteland Maggie in general
Or Deepest Dark but with Wasteland Maggie as the trapper.
One has to be worse than the other right?

I didn't think it was possible to lose in the new garbage spoopy map variant but it sure is. It takes 2 special retards though to fuck it up. One is not enough. Caught me off guard.

so, anyone (any three) up for a few coop matches? too many lobby jumpers with random retards

> coop matches
> coop matches

>evolveupdates.com/deepestdark/

It'd help if their Dankest Meme map wasn't hot hot garbage. It's an utter shit show, you follow a path and kill retarded AI monsters that die if you sneeze on them, then you fight a big retarded AI monster with no fucking armor.
The only reward I care about is Paladin Parnell, and I'm a founder so I get him for free.

Every update TRS just show that they've left an inept skeleton crew in charge on Evolve while their "A team" (if it could even be said that TRS have one) works on some new game to keep the studio afloat.

yeah you can go fuck off if you don't want to play them for the "event", nobody gives a shit about you or hunt or ranked especially with the speed exploit around, you fucking nonce

>nobody gives a shit about hunt

Hunt is literally all there is to care about in this game. If you're one of those retards who is so shit they can only win again a bot monster then you promptly need to end yourself.
It's because of spastics like you that they've been dumbing down EVERY aspect of the fucking game.

There's no point in playing Hunt right now when it's so easily exploitable. If you're in a premade then you will be using the exploit to gain an edge, if not then you will be playing with literal fucking pubbie retards that can and will drag you down. And playing monster? You're on the receiving end of the exploit dickings.

Get off your high horse, little wank stain. Nobody's impressed by your premade team wins against literally retarded monster players. Even less when you exploit bugs.

TRS is doing the dumbing down by themselves btw, you vapid dumb cunt.

evog premade fucking WHEN

Drop your name, Il add you.

jesus christ, they're literally advertising how dead their game is

I played the map once to see how it is. Cleared it then I went back to playing hunt. I don't think your devs realize that new players would rather see new maps more than low effort gimicky bullshit. I don't like the le randomness xd of cataclysm (not to mention the frame drops) and overpowered should be delet immediately. If cata and overpowered had seperate queues I'd be fine but why are they in the hunt queue? Will these mememaps be permanent? I hope not.

Holy Christ do you want some cheese with the whine? Do you understand what an utter bitch you sound like right now?
I play monster, I play with a premade hunter team, and I solo queue hunters, it is easy to find enjoyment in all of these game modes as long as you aren't a salty little faggot who is too retarded to improve, like yourself.

I've watched TRS utterly fuck this game for over a year because they constantly listen to uninformed shitters like you, don't even try to tell me they're "doing it on their own" you tremendous fucking imbecile. I've seen logical suggestions from over a year ago only just getting implemented a month or two ago, again because of the community's voice largely being drowned out by the tide of obnoxious dumb-shits.

Most people who play this game, infact, most people in general are pretty fucking stupid, which is why I suppose it kind of makes sense to TRS for them to try to work their design decisions around them, but the result is the shit-show we have right now.

I can't even begin to imagine how unbelievably autistic you'd have to be to only want to play the co-op mode where the game may as well play itself. It is literally impossible to lose to the bot monster.
Yet somehow I wouldn't be surprised if someone as bad as you found a way to.
You're clearly too stupid for multiplayer games, kindly fuck off, pleb.

Is this game still shit or can I finally go back to fighting my friends as the Monster in normal games?

Because when they made that change it was literally instant uninstalled.

>The game's shit cause I can't fuck with matchnmaking
There's a custom game option if you want to play with friends as the monster.

>Well I am having fine
>I don't care that everybody else isn't having fun and hate the game, git gud shitters
>wait, why is there only 200 players playing?
>come back you shitters, how am I supposed to have fun when I don't have anybody to pubstomp!

why is this game f2p with no cash shop?

So basically the game is still shit and expects you and your friends to earn less/no rewards when they play with each other.

so keep it uninstalled. gotcha.

Hopefully one day they make the game fun again.

There's being shit and then there's being so shit you can only beat bot monsters.
One can be improved upon, the other is caused by mental retardation.

There is one thing of being shit and then there is having retarded teammates that can't even handle basic character control like switching weapons.
One can be improved upon, the other is caused by mental retardation and is incurable.

it's in """""beta""""", cash shop and console release come when stage 2 """launches""".

Any general tips for playing Maggie? Any perk suggestions?
Seems to take god-damn forever for those traps to actually arm.

play a different trapper.
>dog stops tracking if nobody is within 5 feet of it
>traps takeforever to arm and ususally get destroyed before doing anything
>SMG does jack shit for damage
the only advantage you get is that the monster will ignore you because you do almost nothing, which gives you the chance to set up harpoons at escape routes before the dome drops.

This. Maggie is garbage.
Get Grif or Abe.

If you stay with Maggie during chase you've got 15% speed boost. Spam traps inside the dome. Get whatever bronze perk/reload/poison or whatever bronze perk/reload/reload and you are good. Don't listen to shitters who think Maggie is bad. She is very good if you stay with Maggie and spam traps. And don't touch Waggie yet.

>If you stay with Maggie

I mean Daisy ofcourse

yeah, that 15% speed boost really helps you track and cut off the monster when the dog stops every 3 yards because you're not dry humping it.

>12 hours in
>only 7k/100k coop games
I really hope we at least get abe night hunter shit

I keep seeing people talk shit about wasteland maggie.

What makes her so bad?

I've tried her out in practice and nothing seems particularly terrible. Extra fire damage is kinda neat.

I couldn't tell if daisy was doing anything with that flamethrower during combat, though.

Is there some kind of not-so-obvious critical flaw that I just haven't seen or specifically heard of yet?

if it wasn't a shit game mode people would play it more than once.

her dps is better, but her dog doesn't give the speed boost, which makes it worthless and she can only set up one harpoon instead of 3.
she's basically a shitty griffon.
>no sound spikes
>harpoon can be broken before doing anything
>not a priority target so you can't soak for your teammates

Trappers are about CC and she has the worst cc out of all of them. She trades this for damage and she can't even out damage Abe, let alone regular maggie.

I don't know why they chose 100k. The player base is smaller than it was during cataclysm AND it's only counting a game mode that makes up ~20% of the total games.

So the real problem with her, is that her schtick is supposed to be DPS and she doesn't actually get enough of it to make up for the tradeoffs?

Would it fix her if they just, like, eliminated the tracking function from her Daisy entirely and beefed up the hps and damage output so it's like having a mobile bucket turret that hits harder and can revive downed hunters?

I will say this though, the sole reason I haven't bothered trying to play her in an actual match (even coop) after testing her in practice is that her SMG isn't even automatic and I cannot be bothered to fuck up my wrist tapping click to fire.

but, muh two million players!

Daisy has the same ai as the non-wasteland version, meaning the close range flamethrower dog runs away at the first sign of trouble. Beefing up daisy's damage would only slightly alleviate the problem.

fun fact, waisy actually has less HP than daisy.

the only way to fix maggie/waggie is make the dog track on its own with maybe a 50 meter leash on maggie, but if it gets within say 30 of the monster it stays on it regardless of distance from maggie.

You've got other teammates to cut the monster (yeah it's a teamplay coordinated game you know). Btw you should learn Daisy's language, she is basically a constant planet scaner like she is always facing monster and always runs straight on him. Also monster cannot trick you hiding and changing direction if you've got Daisy close to you.

>>I heard the game was dead?
>It was, ~200 players on Steam and little to no updates from the developers. If F2P can bring it back is unknown, but as of right now it's been hovering in the teen thousands.

Is this guy serious?
More like barely over 5000
steamcharts.com/app/273350

>maggie follows daisy
>everyone else follows maggie
great plan you got there, buddy.

>you have teammates to cut the monster off
if your team is smart enough to know how to cut off the monster then you don't need daisy to point out where it is.

in both high and low level play maggie is always going to be less useful than any of the other trappers.

Jesus fucking christ that's stupid. How is it possible for a game developer to be so idiotic that they couldn't foresee these mechanics as being a problem when creating wasteland maggie with her combat-avoiding dog being specialized FOR combat?

Yeah it tells you about the fewer hps right in the game's ability text, which I thought was extremely odd for what is supposed to be a more combat-oriented version of Daisy, but, giving the devs too much credit, I assumed it was to offset that Daisy was going to just be dealing that much extra damage that it would take fewer hps to balance her.

On paper the idea seems really cool, but in practice it's a fucking mess, with blatantly obvious problems that seem stupidly easy to fix if given any attention at all.

Another disappointment for the checklist I guess.

Maggie>Griffin inside the dome.
Griffin>Maggie right after dome is down.

>if your team is smart enough to know how to cut off the monster then you don't need daisy to point out where it is
>monster cannot trick you hiding

>maggie better than griffon in a dome
harpoon traps either get smahed before they arm by AoE or the monster isn't in range of them by the time they're armed and if they do go off odds are the monster is headin towards them and just smashes them anyway without getting CC'd. at least with griffon you can position yourself to always be effective and if the monster focuses you that means your medic and support are keeping you alive and the monster is wasting its time on something it shouldn't be able to kill.

>team is smart enough to spread out and cut off
>monster can't juke

If harpoons get smashed then you place them in wrong places

I really like this game but its not worth playing it now. I really hope TRS get their shit together in time and by that I mean: new(!) maps, better MM and dont nerf the only viable hunters to the ground so they are as shit as the other fucked up hunter and "therefore equal"

There was a hotfix?

Is hackspeed glitch wraith still wasting everyone's time in co-op, forcing timeout victories by being uncatchable?

yes but its too late, hackwraith already claimed victims and bullied coop players out of this game

Good fucking riddance.

Supposedly they put in a new matchmaking system in yesterday that's bugging up for some people

>hackwraith already claimed victims

Why people have to be so retarded?

They can't catch the wraith even if I am on its ass tagging it with the tracking dart.

Managed to catch it twice on my own but ended up winning by timeout. Wraith didn't evolve to stage 2.

so what are the latest bugs/exploits? is there any info on palanell's kit?

People in pubs don't fucking know what the fuck is the fucking jetpack gun of sunny...

trello.com/b/D8JlQGll/evolve-stage-2-feature-bug-roadmap

More adaptations, boys

sunny is not pub friendly.
honestly solo queuers should be restricted to retard proof hunters only until they win at least 10 games in a row.

>gorgon adaptation
Cool, can't wait for it to come out in two years