I live in a liberal state and all these Bernie sanders supporters insist capitalism is evil and favors the rich, what is the deal here? Can you guys defend capitalism?
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Tell them to go shove their dildos that they paid for up their ass
When considering capitalism you merely have to consider its alternatives to make the argument. There are only a few other prominent social systems so it doesn't take long.
a system where a few people are wealthy by right of God, serfs are tied to their land and skilled workers are forced to work for their king/country for little reward. We would recognise skilled workers as being like a small business owner. Incorporation would be seen as people gathering to revolt. Serfs expected to live on the leftovers of their labour that they paid to the king in taxes
Precursor to capitalism. Serfs are now workers. Large secondary industry and mass manufacturing. Government now relies on industrialists and factory owners to look after their workers. Workers are paid enough to raise a family but little else. Both the serf and the worker believe that "Good, honest work" is what will lead to a good life and don't value education
Only one corporation, the government. The government expects everyone to work and provides equal welfare to everybody. Ideally this would stop industrialists and nobles from taking advantage of their positions and would eliminate a ruling class. In practice, the party becomes the ruling class and the large beaureaucratic organisation horrendously mismanages day-to-day functions of industry.
The key feature that separates from industrialism is public ownership of companies, credit options and banking expansion. Workers now work for a company that is run by a CEO and owned by a board. They are paid according to market forces based on their skill and marketability.
Basically, the point is - whether you work for a noble, an industrialist, the party, or a CEO/board, there's always someone on top.
The benefit of capitalism is the advancement opportunity.
insist capitalism favors the rich
No, it favors the boss man. Boss man only becomes rich as a side effect.
Only wage slave employees mindsets get left behind.
Employees sell their time for labor and blow it on creature comforts instead of building assets.
Don't like it? Become the boss man by starting your own business and start building assets.
b-but 90% of businesses fail
Then keep starting over. Start 10 businesses (or as many as it takes) to beat the odds if you have to.
But is it evil?
Evil is subjective, depends on the person.
IMO it's only evil if you're lazy or just don't WANT IT hard enough.
IMO it's only evil if you're lazy or just don't WANT IT hard enough.
This. The lazy people always complain the loudest.
An intelligent response?
What happened to my Veeky Forums?
What if we tried combining socialism with capitalism?
Are they using Macbooks or iPhones?
Are they drinking Starbucks?
Are they using Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr, or any other such service made and maintained by a major corporation for the purpose of profit?
Always fun to remind them they have blood on their hands. These people will never give up convenience in favor of ideology.
We already do.
Fire Department, Police, public schools, etc.
My family immigrated from a socialist country to the US. All the retards who dream of muh socialism are idiots who never experienced it. Socialism made my home country into a wasteland. They'll never know what it means to wait 6 hours in line to get some moldy bread, half a sausage, and some cheese to feed a family of 12 for a whole month. They're complete morons who don't know how to appreciate the freedom that comes with capitalism. You're smart, you work hard you succeed. And if they think that socialism would work today because of "better leadership" they need to take their heads out of their asses and realize that Bernie Oldballs and any other politician literally could not give any less of a shite about you, the people. You can't fix this problem, there are too many stupid people in the world.
What's more evil? Supplying jobs to wagecucks that cant be bothered to go it alone? Putting food on the tables of thousands of families?
Or spongeing off those that work hard? Demanding a meal ticket and stealing shit while raising entitled pussies?
capitolism is evil
Do those retarded fucking cucks not realize that trump will be oresident and free shit has to come from somewhere...?
Im pretty fucking sick of driving to work every morning and seeing 10 people without a job drive by in a nicer vehicle on the way to get breakfast that i paid for. Meanwhile i have to eat a home cooked meal or skip it so some fucking methhead "muhback" faggot can live...
FUCK 100% OF ANY AND ALL SOCIAL PROGRAMS.
we need to help those that can't work
No, their families and friends need to. On their dime and at their descretion.
If u die sad and old and broken and homelss then its your own faggot fault for not preparing and being such a KEK that your own family won't bother with u.
Looks like its going to shit. Cant be bothered to read it. Why didn't user call op a cuck and post an unlrelated pic or simply say "kneepads?"
The world may never know.... sigh....
keep starting over
I'm sure that's totally possible for people who already have money, but for people who don't that's kinda difficult if you bankrupt yourself after one business fails.
Don't pour everything you have into the business unless you're absolutely sure it won't fail.
Capitalism is evil
"Actually Capitalism is like democracy. It's the worst possible system except for every other one that humans have tried."
But muh socialism...
Not incompatible with capitalism, in fact all successful socialist states are also capitalist.
Muh gift based economies...
WHERE ARE THEY NOW, CHACHI? WHERE ARE THEY NOW?
liberals have brain deficiency's haven't you noticed that anyone you meet who is liberal just doesn't seem right like there is some part of there brain that just does not click with common sense?
Pray Trump Wins. I know i will be.
Capitalism creates the rich. Of course it favors them. Would the world be better if we were all just serfs?
The best post I've seen since coming here. Keep up the good work, user.
someone on top
How do you get to the top?
This is what I ws thinking about the other day. If there is any ability in an economic system for elitism to occur then it will naturally segregate into a class system. The only way around this would be for every citizen to literally have every si for thing the same andake it illegal for anyone to make anything different. Which would be shit.
but for people who don't that's kinda difficult if you bankrupt yourself after one business fails.
You say that like it takes a lot of money to start a business.
The paperwork for a sole proprietorship is $20 (in Texas).
Literally thousands of things you can do with zero start up capital. (Any skill based business. Coding/programming, copyright work, etc.)
Literally thousands of things you can do with less than $500 start up capital. (lmgtfy.com
Either learn a skill or get a job between entrepreneurial ventures to get started again.
What's the next excuse?
No one is capable of getting a McJob without already having money...
i agree i lived in socialism and it was not actually horrible in the end but the country went so much in debt to support the unsupportable lifestyle that here after 30 years we still couldn't pay it back. it also fucks people mind up.