im a socially awkward neet loser retard who doesnt know how to do anything
all i want in my life is $20,000 a year income ive never been able to make any money
i want to live in a small apartment by myself thats my entire hopes and dreams to get away from being dependent on my parents
im 22 and ive been homeless and a neet for 8 years
how do i make even 15k a year? is that asking too much? its basically poverty level. i could live off of that though . its all ive ever wanted in my life just that basic small amount to live by myself
i dont want to be a 9-5 fast food wagie! or walmart wagie! please help
i cant physically handle the stress of having to wake up at a set time and go talk to people outside . u might not understand this but i really cant live like that . when u are forced to get up in the morning even on the days u dont want to. i cant do it it makes me want to kill myself more than i already do
Ryan Lewis
Cause you put so much effort in
(you)
Austin Moore
Just to clarify, you are lazy and uneducated and you want to know how to make money without putting in any effort?
Ayden Wood
>he doesn't want to be another man's slave so he must be lazy!
Jose Fisher
its not that i dont want to put any effort i just want to be happy
and the idea of a constant 9-5 every week every day every year of your life and it never ending and getting peaceful neet time to your own?
that sounds like hell
i cant do that i just need a small amount of money not hand my life over to slavery
Brayden Phillips
No he is lazy because he won't put in any effort to reach the level that he wants to
Owen Roberts
Working 9-5 IS hell but unless you have rich parents you will need to do it for at least the short-term so you can build up capital to invest in something more fulfilling.
Matthew Reyes
Who gets dressed before they take a shit?
Noah James
Sounds he doesn't want to do anything at all
Just find some secret code to never work again that falls from the sky
>I don't want to work minimum wage >I don't have any skills, education or experience >I don't know anything >I've been a neet for 8 years
>I want to make money doing nothing! Lol good luck
Lincoln Bailey
like what........ if ur working your job at mc wage cuck and basically just paying off your bills
you might be saving a little bit of money but its like.......... honestly going to get you nowhere
and youll just be even more sad
getting a job like that to me isnt really getting anything because its a huge trade off you work 5 days a week for 8 hours....... there goes 90% of your life doing something u dont want
Carson Sullivan
Neetbux, maybe?
Carter Brooks
Well are you doing what you want now?
Are you happy as a NEET?
Wake up buttercup, there's nothing free in this life. You can't always do everything you want
Nicholas Peterson
ill be happy as a neet with independence and freedom and money to do what i want in my own place
thats my dream
im not asking for a big house and a pool and a boat and a nice car
i want the shittiest bottom of the barrel
i dont care i just want to escape and be on my own because living with other people who dont want you, doesnt work.
a lot of conflict
trading 90% of my day at being a slave though is just as bad
so theres a dilemma
life is shit
im already trying to get neetbux for 5 years now
still have a lawyer on the case
Brandon Price
Why don't you just get a job you fuck
You're clearly unhappy as a NEET. Maybe if you got a job you'd make some friends, msybe get a girlfriend and have some motivation.
You talk about all this "doing what I want" "muh freedom".
But lets look at the facts.
you say you've been a NEET for years. What have you done over these years?
You have 8 hrs of sleep, 16 hours of freetime per day. what do you do every day?
Surely you must have learned SOME sort of skill, right?
You're probsbly really smart in a few areas right?
Spill the beans, what have you done with your time as a free man, not bound by the slavery of work?
Jacob Price
Look buddy, you know why you are an entitled lazy sack of shit? It's because the shittiest bottom of the barrel is very far down below from what you want.
Xavier Gutierrez
Unless you have capital or someone to lend you capital, wagecuck for a few months and save money, then use the money to start a business
Adrian Roberts
Starting a business is harder than "wagecucking".
He'll never cut it. He just wants free money with no effort
Lucas Wright
>Surely you must have learned SOME sort of skill, right? I learned how to cum without being full hard.
Logan Gonzalez
>Why don't you just get a job you fuck
because its permanent
when u get a job ur saying ok im going to wake up every day at 6 am for the next 40 years ...... thats a terrible deal
you dont see it like that but thats how i see it
i cant just tag on a job like its no big deal
it doesnt matter how many "skills" i have, i still cant make money
without going through the whole professional process
its a nightmare , you act like its so easy and you just "pick up a skill and start making money" no it doesnt work that way
thats why i asked if 15k a year was too much to ask for?
i feel like thats way below the average of 53,000$ per year in the united states
Hunter Rodriguez
>average of 53,000$ per year in the united states
And you guys feel like killing yourselves with such an average? Wow... I literally make $8k a year in a 9-5. Yes, it sucks so freaking much.
Bentley Phillips
Foreign fags need to stop complaining about their low wages while ignoring their super low costs of living.
Samuel Thompson
Watch some motivational videos, take a year or two to learn programming, apply to Google, work a few hours with super cool perks, ???, profit
Ian Sanders
>super low costs of living.
Sorry. no.. Not at all. I can barely but anything for me that isn't related to basic needs.
Josiah Miller
So your basic needs are met? Don't know why you're complaining then.
Easton Miller
simply knowing how to program doesnt earn you money
they want people with degrees and experience and specialty technology that i wouldnt bother ever looking into
they dont hire a high school drop out who claims he knows how to program
Dylan Wright
If by basic needs we are talking about food, then yes.
Anthony Foster
>nothing in this life is free >you have to work hard to live if you wasn't born rich >work and hate your life like me I was forced into this life in a shit country and after 20 years I realized that I don't want to work shit jobs dealing with assholes for 30+ years living like a slave to save money. (I worked 2+ years like that) >oh just kill yourself Ok, I think I will >Oh, NO! Suicide is a temporary solution to a permanent problem >Here, take these pills! Now that you're sedated will you just shut up and go back to being a slave?
Josiah Sanchez
I'm a hard worker but I'm probably fucking stupid when it comes to business decisions. I know I can wagecuck and save like Jew for a while to make my own business, but how do I not be a total failure and blow my investments, putting me back to square one?
Gabriel Gomez
:( sorry bro i feel for you
Aiden Martinez
>>Oh, NO! Suicide is a temporary solution to a permanent problem
More like a permanent solution to a permanent problem.
Jeremiah Jones
So then what do you want?
You're not even doing anything with all your freetime.
You've been a neet for years dude. Describe your average day. What do you do for 16 hours a day????
Evan Lee
Dude, you can make money just doing front-end 'programming' nowadays, I mean, do you want to die being a low-life scum or take matter into your own hands and AT LEAST try something before you die and go into nothingness?
Luis Campbell
i go on Veeky Forums all day long and youtube
because its futile to try to make money for me
i can sit here for 10 hours thinking about how to make money and i never come up with anything
> you can make money just doing front-end 'programming' nowadays
no you cant
where are these magic people giving money away to do basic programming
it doesnt exist its all outsourced or some guy with 40 years experience gobbles it up
Aaron Parker
Okay so let's sum this all up.
>Hello guys, I have no skills, no money, no experience, no education, no work ethic, I don't want to work a job, I can't do anything but I want money
Wtf answer are you expecting?
THERE'S NO SHORTCUTS IN LIFE.
I'm done replying to this thread and I recommend everyone do the same, too many of these /r9k/ neets have come here for "advice". They don't want help.
He's going to make an excuse no matter what you tell him unless you literally wire him money.
>Start a business maybe? >No I can't!
>Get a job? >No I don't want to wagecuck!
>Maybe learn a skill such as programming? >No! Too hard they only hire [made up EXAGGERATION]
Why even bother. You're going to be a neet firevere, kys or get used to it. The problem is your attitude
Camden Evans
Right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.
Kevin Sanchez
>it's futile to make money for me
Looks like you're set.
Why make the thread then if you know it's futile?
Cameron Perry
>Front-end programming and how do you want to make money from that? Good luck competing with pajeets on fiverr
Andrew Ramirez
>THERE'S NO SHORTCUTS IN LIFE.
and thats why life sucks
and im just saying hey this sucks
making money is futile
because i cant do it
not that i dont want money
William Mitchell
Yeah it does suck
Are you going to adapt to it or just let your only life pass you by, you lazy faggot? I know I said I wouldn't reply but fuck people like you make me mad.
You HAVE ONE LIFE. And you waste it refusing to improve.
I mean man. You talk about all this freetime but then you spend it on Veeky Forums and YouTube. You're not even making use of it to accomplish your goals or anything
Hudson Cooper
i dont know what to do i really dont
it seems like the economy is a very tight box thats already been fitted and the world goes on and nobody really spends any money on anything besides the large corporations
you cant improve yourself
you can only be a slave which is a stagnant death trap for eternity, i dont feel like youre getting anywhere when you accept the wagie life
Cooper Moore
start with a job, loser
Jace Wilson
But you are
You're gaining experience and building funds to start a business, retire or whatever else.
>You can't improve yourself
Why can I improve myself then, and so can almost everyone around you? Are you a special snowflake?
The fact is you don't want to. You're lazy. You've had 16 hours x 52 x however many years of neet to learn skills.
You could've used the internet to learn any skill in the world but you chose not to
Brandon Sanders
I mean x 365
If you were a neet for 5 years you had almost 30,000 hours of freetime. What did you do with it?
achieved any goals?
Adam Rodriguez
you dont get what im saying i could be a fucking expert in 50 things it doesnt automatically mean im making money.
you have to interact with people and theres a marketing element
and you have to find customers some how
and you have to have money to start a business
and you say "start a business" or "learn a skill" but you never say WHAT THAT ACTUALLY MEANS.
What are you talking about? give me a road map on how to turn a profit.
i seriously dont know how to do it
i could be a guy who juggles on an elephant while jumping off a 300 ft diving board and does a barrel roll when i land
doesnt mean im turning a profit
Benjamin Wilson
Why do you keep saying how impossible it is to make money, and how you need to go through "the professional process" There is literally millions of people who make good money, and millions of people who have jobs they enjoy, and don't have to wake up at 6am. Get a job as an overnight security guard, or Late night shelf stacker, or be a waiter, you are literally pissing your life away without any attempt at making something of yourself.
8 Years a NEET and you haven't even read books, learnt to program, or gained any knowledge. I hope you are a troll because if not you are the definition of Human Waste.
Cooper Bailey
I'm trying to earn money online for a year now
I've tried amazon affiliate program I made a review website about a product made only around $100
made a micro niche website made $0
made a porn tumblr blog advertising porn sites and made ~$200
mfw only scamming people who want to make money online is profitable on longer terms
Liam Long
>Get a job as an overnight security guard, or Late night shelf stacker, or be a waiter, you are literally pissing your life away
and thats not pissing my life away?
i have to go be a fucking waitor or stock shelves for hours upon hours to finally get to enjoy something
its not worth it to dedicate MOST of your waking hours on this stupid shit it voids the freedom that i truly want
in my own home, not having to wake up and be somewhere because some guy told me to
Zachary Gray
People like you make me laugh. You'll come down to two choices. Either you'll get over your fear and be forced to work and communicate with those around you or you will die of starvation or cold. At some point your natural instinct will kick in when you get to the final, worst moment of your life and you'll either force yourself to get better or die. It's the same thing with hardcore drug addicts.
Eli Peterson
Sorry, meant to quote
Julian Collins
Ever tried Google?
You can learn all that, and you learn it by trying different things until one works.
>You have to interact with people Yeah no shit what's your point
Just go to /r9k/ dude I'm sure they'll appreciate you
Why cant you see that youre a lazy piece of shit that doesn't want to do anything and doesn't deserve to earn money?
YOU'VE BEEN PISSING YOUR LIFE AWAY YOU FUCKING IDIOT
YOU'RE 20+ YEARS OLD. YOUVE DONE N O T H I N G. YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SHOW FOR YOUR TIME ON EARTH
YOU JUST CONSUME, you're a worthless burden on everyone, especially your family
Thomas Ross
>YOUVE DONE N O T H I N G
you havnt told me what to do yet
instead you provide invisible guidelines and then blame me when i dont know what you mean
Andrew Martinez
It gives you purpose you fuck-up, something to wake up and do, You could get the same from learning a hobby or a skill but you refuse to do that too because you are worthless.
We aren't your fucking guardian angel or your mentor, no one is gonna do tell you exactly what to do. Figure it out for yourself with the hoards of information available to you, no one wants to spoon feed you.
Learn how to live your own life, it's called the Human Experience and literally everyone else in the world does it.
Adam Stewart
Wtf do u want?
Do you want me to somehow make a lifemap and schedule for you? Do you want me to live your life for you?
Figure out on your fucking own
Parker Turner
well i havnt figured out the human experience im still trying to figure it out
i cant fathom how most the population works 40 hours a week
they must be EXTREMELY BORED PEOPLE if they can find "purpose" in that type of pointless dispensable wage cuckery
they can hire someone the next day if you die lmao
Ryder Myers
>doesn't deserve to earn money topkek Have you looked around lately? This world is a bad joke
Adrian Howard
This "person" doesn't want to do a single thing
How is that different from you though?
You spend over 40 hours a week on Veeky Forums and youtube. You don't even get paid for it. That's way more boring than any job
At least at McDonald's you'd make friends and work with hot teenage girls
Jose Reed
>Wtf do u want?
i explained it in my op i want an apartment and be a neet inside of it
with still enough money for food and toilet paper and basic things
way below average income
>At least at McDonald's you'd make friends and work with hot teenage girls
i live in a city with like 75% mexicans and niggers and the whites are old people
theres no "hot teenage girls" america is a 3rd world country now
>That's way more boring than any job
im saying the idea that a job is a "way to find purpose" is only for the most idiotic retards i can imagine
theyre not meaningful or purposeful objectively
thats a way for wage cucks to trick themselves into accepting their existence
and they think that all you can do is watch tv if you have a day off
theyre really bored people they dont know what to do with themselves.
ive seen them scramble around the house cleaning things that are already clean because they have a day off of work they dont know what to do when theyre not at work
its sad.. i dont want to be degraded to that
Cameron Ward
>he actually thinks he can escape the slave class
Julian Flores
You want those things, so does everyone.
But you forgot to mention what you're willing to do for them. Care to fill me in on that so I can offer better advice?
Parker Thomas
doesnt matter what im willing to do
id probably jump off a cliff and try to land so i only break an arm or 2
but that doesnt mean someone is going to put the money into my pocket
>what you're willing to do for them
you dont simply do a set number of tasks and then you GET IT.
no its a perpetual offering of slavery that youre offering me.
you dont work for a year at mcdonalds and then go FUCK YES I GET TO BE A NEET NOW . nope , you buried your grave the day you signed up
if you quit your job , you lose your house, you lose everything and you end up on the street
Aaron Gutierrez
>its sad.. i dont want to be degraded to that Yet you're a socially awkward neet loser retard who is apparently homeless even though he's posting on the internet.
Hunter Jackson
>Accept their existence
And how are you fighting it lol
What's your alternative?
Elijah Ramirez
When I worked I hated everyone in the office, so I can understand OP But they were all at least 10 years older than me and gossip idiots, so I guess they ruined office jobs for me Sometimes I still dream about working there... then I wake up, calm down and love my NEET life.. is it PTSD? I'd love to keep living like this if I could make only ~$300 online without human interaction /and without scamming people like me/
Nathan Cook
i said i was homeless several times in the past
im not homeless anymore because i caught a disease and i would have died without being in a home so my mom took me back in
Michael Cruz
How does it not matter
You wrote what you want, but what is it that you're willing to do in exchange? Or do you just want someone else to work and give you these things?
What is the point of this thread.
Do you want help or not?
Owen Rodriguez
>but what is it that you're willing to do in exchange?
re read the post
if there was a set number of tasks that i could do on a bulletin board that could get me those things i would do them
but the reality is, you only have those things SO LONG as you are in that damn mcdonalds day in and day out
as soon as you want out, you lose everything
so there is no "what youre willing to do"
its more like a never ending duty
Samuel Rogers
>Mom took me back in
So I take is your mom is a "wagecuck"?
Have you ever told your mom how you feel about work, as you have in this thread?
How would you like it if your mom embraced your worldview and stopped being a wagecuck and told you to fuck off because she doesn't want to slave all day to support a grown man?
Josiah Cooper
Yes you do. So what is your point?
What answer are you looking for? A secret? You answer your own questions. Either kill yourself or go back to being homeless. No other option
Dominic Thompson
>How would you like it if your mom embraced your worldview and stopped being a wagecuck and told you to fuck off because she doesn't want to slave all day to support a grown man?
she already did that to me and practically killed me
so i would feel pretty shit and probably dead in a few days if she did that again because im dependent on medical supplies to live
>So I take is your mom is a "wagecuck"?
yes, shes a miserable fat nasty women like a wicked witch , especially when she gets home from work you can tell her stress levels are highest
its nasty what wage cucking will do to a person
Luke Bell
And yet you're dependent on her to survive
Maybe you need wagecucks afterall?
Andrew Butler
Not OP but I've talked about my feelings with my mom She said that she doesn't suffer in a job like that, in fact she enjoys working with her co-workers She asked me to see a psychiatrist and I did a few times, even took pills but it didn't work
Brayden Turner
>because im dependent on medical supplies to live
yuck
Matthew Hernandez
Okay well maybe if you neet for another 10 years you'll finally get money for free
I mean that's how it works, right?
Angel Jones
no im not... its the way this economic system mankind has created is set up which causes these problems and the way of the city life with "jobs" which used to mean slavery
were supposed to be born on family farms where youre guaranteed work to make a living from the fruits of your own labor
not this fucking cluster fuck where they throw you out onto the street and try to get some rich guy to give you money and justify your existence to them
Bentley Martin
not in my country no NEETbux for me
Robert Hernandez
What is your basis for us to "supposed to be born" a certain way? Because you said so?
Also would you even be willing to work on a farm? That's harder than mcdonalds
Also farms do exist. You can work at one next week if you wanted, but the work is hard
Isaac Torres
Sell your butthole on Backpage. Inb4 suck cock: OP is too lazy to suck cocks.
Easton Sullivan
because thats how it worked for thousands upon thousands of years. people worked on farms
and no i cant work on a farm in the manner that im talking about because first of all the hire immigrants from other countries....
and secondly it would basically be another form of wage cucking
because its still owned by one big head of show at the top
instead of directly reaping your own profits
Gabriel Miller
At least you wouldn't have to smile at cows while they shout your head off for some cold french fries
Brody James
you'll find any excuse wont you?
>I can't do that they only hire people with degrees!
>I can't do that they only hire immigrants!
They hire anyone willing to work you lazy fuck. I bet you haven't even tried.
I know multiple people who worked on farms and they weren't immigrants.
>Instead of reaping your own profits The only way to do that is to start a business, which you don't want to do.
Nathan Nguyen
if there was a situation where it was like you get payed for what you pick ... i would do that
that makes sense to me
but i have a feeling its more harsh normies who say you have to get X done by today and if you dont then ur fired. thats a stressful terrible fast paced environment
I DONT WANT A WAGE. i want exactly what i earn i dont care how long it takes i would pick the oranges for 20 hours a day but its about the FREEDOM of being able to say . i want to stop right now. i want to go home and lay down
but harsh normies have all this weird regulation and set ups where they force you to stress yourself out because of TIME.
most jobs are WAGE JOBS they are on your NECK for not MOVING FASTER like a slave.
no i want to work for 40 hours straight but at the pace of a snail because my arms dont feel good today
they dont respect the human cycle. they force you to become a robot.
i would fucking love to pick fruit for a living, they got machines doing it now though. why do they need me?
why do they need me when they can pay paco 2$ a day? theres infinite numbers of pacos in the world
Mason Carter
Stop whacking it to porn, your body will naturally attempt to seek out mates and better yourself.
Jaxon Hall
im already on no fap but when ur this much of a loser and dont have any sources of outreach to anything
like no friends from the past or shit like that
you end up just going crazy once you crack and then binge fapping/ binge eating food/ or some people drink alcohol or whatever they do to basically numb themselves
no fap until inevitably you go back into the cycle.
because i got nothing to do
Justin Perry
this. I've tried nofap too It works for a week, increased clarity of mind, more energy But when you don't channel that energy into something creative you will end up feeling worse
Grayson Cooper
>trading 90% of my day at being a slave though is just as bad
I think you mean 50%. If you work 8 hours, and sleep 8 hours, you will have 8 hours of free time a day.
Luis Butler
>because its permanent
No it's not you can literally quit the day you're hired if you want
Nathan Reyes
>No it's not you can literally quit the day you're hired if you want
which would effectively do nothing jobs are permanent
Chase Harris
Pretty sure Google wouldn't hire him. You could get a decent job somewhere though with some computer skills (IT doesn't take too much skill right?)
Angel Mitchell
you can do home health aide 40 hours for the class (in virginia) then you just show up at some elderly person's home and help them with their daily life (it's not glamorous, and a bit boring sometimes, but it's not very stressful unless you're dealing with someone with alzheimer's or with serious impairments (like no bowel controls)) I mean it's pretty easy. if you can make your own bed, pop food in the microwave, shop for food, and sweep, you're good to go (for the easy cases at least)
Blake Russell
Right
Henry Reed
if you add the commute/preparation for work that's at least another hour
Lincoln Reed
free time isnt "free time" when you had to wake up at 6:30 your whole mood was ruined
its already late at night and your tired as fuck when you get home
and you have all that free time to look forward to doing it again the next day
Ryder White
and lying awake in the bed thinking about how you hate your job is another few hours
Jackson Long
Move to Holland and get serious bux. I get like 25-30k a year if u add it all up.
Grayson Lee
that sounds pretty ok but im pretty sure the nursing market would be overly saturated with females and women who went to college for nursing
no? it would be very very awkward imo too tho i got nothing to do with old people
Jace Long
Does holland accept immigrants who offer the country nothing these days?
Christian Jackson
>you can only be a slave which is a stagnant death trap for eternity, i dont feel like youre getting anywhere when you accept the wagie life
Do you feel like you're getting somewhere now? Are you really free when you're wasting your life away on YouTube and Veeky Forums?
Sure work can suck but if you do it you can gain independence (which is pretty satisfying), you can make friends, and you can actually do cool shit in your free time because you'll have money. Plus when you're forced to work you might find your brain compensates and you'll have more energy overall to do things with your life (in my experience).
You keep talking about how much the wage life sucks but how is your current life any better?
One final thing: maybe you're just super depressed or have severe ADHD in which case you should probably see a psychiatrist/therapist which might help you get your life together.
Tyler Hughes
Jesuschrist, I'd earn that much in 7 years with my last full time job Can I move to Holland from another EU country and get benefits there? What should I do? Play the autism card? Or just stand in the line of immigrants from middle east pretend that I'm from Shittistan?
Evan Edwards
>What should I do? Play the autism card? Yes, it worked for me >Or just stand in the line of immigrants from middle east pretend that I'm from Shittistan? I suppose you can just literally walk here and jsut throw away ur passport. Nobody can send u back if they dont know where ur from.
Jose Gonzalez
>but how is your current life any better?
the fact that i dont have to worry about having to wake up again and again and again and be somewhere when i dont want to be
i want to pick when i want to work
do you know any employers that allow you to come and go?