Veeky Forums, my dad is looking for a new car but doesn't have a good idea where to start because he's trying to find one car that does what two of his current vehicles do. $35k-ish is the cap. >wants AWD because winter, and we have a long steep driveway. Every single FWD car he's had would get stuck at the end when he gets home from work if it snowed while he was gone >wants a hatch with rear seats that can go down, enough space for hauling stuff around in back, but no need for anything huge because he has a truck for the big stuff >wants at least 30 mpg >manual, this is non-negotiable (thankfully) >fun, quick-ish When I say new, I mean new. Not "oh, you'd have to buy CPO" or "it's just a couple years old" but actual new. He's stuck on that.
All of that considered, it the Focus RS the only good option? I know the prices are dumb now, but he's willing to wait it out for something good to come along.
Luis Walker
Don't you guys have a subaru wagon ?
Carter Brown
this
Brandon Hill
You guys as in Americans? We don't get fun, new Subaru wagons with manual. The Forester XT is CVT only, and the WRX doesn't have a hatch anymore.
Brayden James
Forgot pic: wishful thinking.
Jayden Taylor
Focus RS is a two year wait list from the dealers currently as they will only import 7500 a year. Only option there is gray market markup.
Real shame but I understand why they're keeping it limited production.
Nolan Williams
Shit, two years? Any ideas on good alternatives?
Does anyone know how the Golf R is faring with reliability?
Aaron Cook
Hatchback Lancer might do it
Parker Russell
Correcting, Sportback is what they call it. Either way, as long as you don't get the Evolution it's within your price range and AWD. Could be perfect.
Jaxon Powell
I've got the ST. the hatch really doesn't even provide that much extra space. I've been in new WRX sedans and they have more interior space it feels like
Josiah Jackson
Really, he doesn't care much about extra passenger space, mostly about the amount of space that can be had by laying the rear seats down and setting things in back. But if it still doesn't have that much space by that metric, I'll see what he thinks about the WRX. He'd be coming from a Mini though, so I have a feeling the Focus' additional space may be enough for him.
Lucas Lewis
>AWD >Hatch >30mpg >35k
Subaru
Camden Wright
>manual non-negotiable >has to be fun, quick-ish What fun hatches does Subaru have these days with manual?
Jose Davis
there's the wrx hatchback but they stopped making those in 2014, now their just sedans
Jeremiah Rogers
>reading comprehension
Hudson Brown
m8 there's nothing wrong with my post
Dylan Price
>When I say new, I mean new. Not "oh, you'd have to buy CPO" or "it's just a couple years old" but actual new. He's stuck on that.
Liam Butler
Tell him to get a 2016 Mazda Miata.
Jordan Robinson
There's just not that many options in your criteria
There's some quick AWD sedans, but they're pretty much all auto and not a hatchback. While most hatchbacks are available with a manual they are mostly FF. The golf R like you said might be a good option. Considering he drives a mini, reliability shouldn't be too big of a issue for him.
John Russell
Golf R except the hatch space is pretty tiny with the rear seats up. The Focus RS is still better if practicality is a concern.
The WRX hatch wasn't updated like the sedan so it's kind of lousy.
Luke Brown
That is a load of shit. Some dealers have them on the floor. Dealers are not currently taking orders as the order bank is currently not open. Probably be open around September, thats when they were opened for the current years run. From when they first opened orders it took about 8 months for people to start recieving their orders.
Thomas Howard
Sure you can drive home in one today, but it will cost you +$50k
Carter Powell
this just came to mind, its ugly, but it fits all your criteria
Jaxson Jackson
If your dad has his heart set on a manual car the used market will open up more choices. Most manufacturer are going to CVTs or push button automatics.
Daniel Nguyen
Subaru WRX is your answer.
Charles Smith
I know it's very limited, but he's dead set on new. That is why I asked Veeky Forums, I was hoping I had forgotten something worth mentioning.