/rlg/ - Roguelike General

Stop fucking posting this shit if you aren't going to fix it you ANUS

Why the fuck don't you take 5 goddamn minutes and fix that shit if you care so much about it, you lazy sack of shit.

didnt make it, not going to fix it
whatcha gonna do

Nothing, but you look like a doofus with MiBe tablord IQ, just sayin.

What's wrong with it?

But I AM the MiBe

>(a|A)non

Don't make a fool of yourself if you don't know what that means.

>play caster character
>pain in the ass until after Lair, possibly 2-3 shotted by many dangerous monsters unless gargoyle
>fight caster ghost
>feebly attempt to fend off a god

I wish at least some of basic god abilities carried over to ghosts.

I told him to put in (a|A)non when he was originally making it, instead of %playername%.

I assumed he would put in either user or user like a sensible person and not copy-paste my recommendation.

Hah. I'm actually used to it being used like this.

How much Int do i need to reach max spellpower if i have wild magic 3 + Majin Bo? (and assuming all skills at 27)

That is a really complicated algebraic equation.

Okay well I tried and got 7.3.

>sensible person
>MiBe

dev.berotato.org

kill me

what's the equation and where from

does VS bite have anything to do with unarmed?

No, but the bite has good synergy with unarmed due to the fast attack speed that's also available in the early game.

holy shit that was a very intense orb run

Sequell casts a spell. Anonymous is cast into beam.cc!

ah okay ty!

assuming 27 all skill Deep Elf with :

5 str, 40 int, 15 dex
1 wild magic mutation
robe of archmagi
hat of the high council
Fire Storm Spellpower : 200 / 200
Damage : 8d26

5 str, 40 int, 15 dex
no mutation
robe of archmagi
hat of the high council
Fire Storm Spellpower : 185 / 200
Max Damage : 8d24

5 str, 40 int, 15 dex
Fire Storm Spellpower : 133 / 200
Damage : 8d17

Majin-bo will kill you with -9 HP for each fire storm casting.

Nevermind it's 37 (actually slightly under that, but INT is an int).

The equation is:
(50)log2(1+[(x/10)(27/2+27)(1.5^4)]/50) = 200
and you solve for x.
Source is loom.shalott.org/learndb.html#spell_power

all dem drained stats

There's something kinda funny about an iron imp being the last thing you see of what happened to be a very intense orb run.

I-is this the right place to ask a thing?

I want to explore a gloomy cave and fuck up some monsters but simple graphics and ambient sounds would be really nice and I don't want nightmare tier time/resource management... Is there a baby's first roguelike kind of like this? Should I try a different general?

Most roguelikes don't really have sounds

Maybe try Dungeon Crawl, it's pretty simple and fun.

I would recommend Infra Arcana as its one of the few RLs which uses sound, but it's like 70% resource management and pretty hard.

DCSS probably has the prettiest tileset there is, but no sounds.
ToME has sounds, but is not as pretty as DCSS.
Same for ADoM.

Most roguelikes don't have sound. There's DoomRL, I guess, though it's Doom, not beating up rats in a cave.

I was literally at 7 hp 3 tiles away from 2 golden dragons and an ordinary lich and I only got decreased to 5 hp when I walked up the stairs (there's ton of enemies killer clown, moth of wrath, draconian annihilator etc.upstairs also). Even the local Muhammad would convert to Christianity if this happened to him.

O-okay... I'm sorry...

Please don't roleplay in the thread unless you are going to be creative about it.

wild magic isn't an enhancer it's a separate bonus: x1.9 spellpower for WM3

and it should be (27/2 + 2*27)

so actually it's

(50)log2(1+[(x/10)(27/2+27)(1.5)(1.9)]/50) = 200

aka [(x/10)(27/2+27)(1.5)(1.9)] = 750

you hit max spellpower at 39 int with wild magic 3 and 1 enhancer

before the wild magic nerf it would have been 29 int

What?

play IA retard

Much better synergy with quick blades though.

someone has a nice demonspawn going on xtahua, so i'm not gonna play and ruin it

>VsSk
HOLY SHIIIIIIIIIT

Ah, I see.
What did wild magic do before?

guessing it gave more power per level of the mut

How so? Quick blades has pretty piss poor damage and I don't think the bite can pull it's weight alone even if the blade has something like elec on it. Fists are better due to how you effectively have anti magic branded hands, a trait that is so good late game which is where unarmed really shines.

Yeah, looks like it's +50% power to +30% power.

Would there be any interest if I were to make a roguelite recommendation pastebin?

I know we all want to try keep discussion of 'em out of the threads and hate the term, but I think it might still be useful - if even only to make it less likely people ask for recs of them or for opinions on 'em in the threads.

No.

Trying a DeFe of Sif Muna, do i train Invo with her? Or do i keep focusing on magic skills and then train Invo only when my spells are online?

I'd be interested in hearing your recs but not in including them in the OP.

I feel it'd just cause more offtopic discussion rather than stem the flow of it.

This is not the roguelite general.

Please don't make this.

Does Majin Bo take HP away while in Death's Door? If it doesnt, does it still grant the increased Spell Power, or is the bonus applied only after the staff takes HP from you?

Alright, message received. Won't make one.

Is there even any such thing?

There was. A general will often roll around for a while when a very popular roguelite is released, but they inevitably die out due to the nature of the games and the players they attract.

All games played here are roguelites masquerading as roguelikes

>Does Majin Bo take HP away while in Death's Door?
No

>If it doesnt, does it still grant the increased Spell Power, or is the bonus applied only after the staff takes HP from you?
The bonus is passive, it still grant Archmagi in Death's Door status.

No, which is kinda unfortunate tbqh since it'd divert offtopic shit from here pretty well and would give a home to a lot of interesting games without generals.

But unfortunately there's just no deducated enthusiast community for them like there are Roguelikes since they vary wildly.

Binding of Isaac is nothing like Spelunky which is nothing like Invisible Inc which is nothing like FTL which is nothing like Captain Forever Remix which is nothing like etc. You just can't build a general on such a broad category of games.

>you made a modest sacrifice
well fuck you too bitch

I'm gonna try a challenge run of DCSS:

SpMo of Chei, no spellcasting allowed

yawn

Uh,...I don't fucking care..? Idiot??

Please don't type like this, faggot.

No bullying, you sluts.

Here's that back the fuck off guy !?!?

*control blinks behind you*

For the second time, no roleplaying.

*slams you with dark maul*
heh, nothing personnel kid

Sorry to be a little spoon-feed seeker bitch. I'm the SpEn guy from last thread. Does the following sound like a not retarded plan?
>Git 8 stealth and fighting, learn all spells in Mal
(>Worship Ok until artefact dagger, robe, hat and cloak)
>Learn Useful spells like Repel Missile, various blinks, Invisibility
>Clear mines
Then what?

...

heh

that was just my illusion

??spen

I wish Brogue had those, it'd be pretty perfect (wait, no, it's got a nightmare food clock, nevermind)

Don't worship Okawaru unless you plan on staying with him forever, a SpEn cannot survive his wrath

hyperpath:
dungeon to lair, don't pass d:10 unless you have to because d:11 is the point where many vaults becomes much more dangerous
clear lair
clear orc
clear dungeon
pick a lairbranch based on your character's strengths, usually you want to do the waterbranch first, clear to branch:3
do branch:4 if your character can handle it, else do poisonbranch:1-3
get a rune
clear vaults 1-4
clear depths
clear vaults:5, or get abyssal/slime/tomb if playing a character that would have an easier time doing those than v:$
read ?mapping to skip as much of zot as possible
take orb
ascend

And sprigganed:

this seems about right
hibernation + confuse will basically carry you all the way through L + V + even U
I'd recommend jiyva as a god

Brogue does have tiles. No sound though.
They are also Oryx's tiles, so quite decent, if minimalistic.
The food clock is also really lenient once you've played a few times.

>tomb
>3rd rune

but why

If you have silence+haste castable, good melee/ranged, and darkness/nightstalker(optional but nice to have), Tomb is actually hilariously easy.

For some specific character situations it can be the easiest 3rd rune. Most of the time, it isn't.

Whoops, pressed enter too soon.
You still probably wouldn't want to 3rd rune tomb, just like you wouldn't want to do the water branch first necessarily (shoals is unanimously known as harder than all other lair branches).

Shoals is easier than nuspider by a lot. Fastmove entropy weavers that spam are possibly the most dangerous lairbranch monster in nucrawl.

Shoals can also be easier than nusnake. This depends on your character.

Get spells online (it shouldn't take too long) then put 5 or so in invo by Vaults. More if you're really hurting for MP for some reason.

I vehemently disagree.

you mean shithemently
get it
because vehumet is shit

it all depends on your character
if you are somewhat stealthy, shoals is quite easy
if you're megatank CPA with -stealth, and no EV, then yeah, shoals is hard.

for spriggans, i think shoals is the easiest branch

>activate altar to see what it does
>turn into a girl, lose 1 Strength, gain nothing
I probably deserved that.

>gain nothing
You are now cute though.

Charisma is a stat, and it did not increase.