Im actually considering a mr2 >Before Veeky Forums from car fags i know mr2's have a bad stigma around it >after Veeky Forums i started liking mr2's im not sure if this is meme magic at work but im liking this car more and more
But which one should i get ? i would dump money into engine & turbo, breaks and suspention (between 300,350 HP) goal
but interms of parts which one is cheaper easier to find ?
Mason Richardson
If you want to be making those power figures, go for a mkII. I'm about to pick up a gen one, and they make 110ish na, and 135ish hp supercharged. You could get 300 hp off a 4age or 4agze, and that would be sick, but it would cost a fortune and really not be worth it. Get a turbo gen II and get new cams, bigger turbo, etc.
Bentley Brooks
The MR2 suits what you want better.
But the turbo engine should go in the trash. At those power levels, you'll be dealing with a lot of lag which is dangerous in a very twitchy RWD car like the MR2. Currently, the in thing is to do a 2GR-FE 3.5L V6 swap from a newer Toyota Camry, using the wiring harness and computer from a Lotus Evora. Tune the engine right (performance parts are starting to come out for it or are in development because it's such a popular MR2 swap), and 350 HP is easily achievable. The old adage "There's no replacement for displacement" holds true here. Pic related is a 2GR-FE swapped W20 MR2 getting a turbo thrown on. As a bonus, the V6 swap has other benefits. The entire V6 drivetrain is lighter than the entire drivetrain of the 2.0L Turbo, which means less rear weight bias, a lighter overall car, and better handling.
Alternatively, you could get a Pontiac Fiero. Infinitely easier to find and find parts for, and everything under the sun has been swapped into them from 2.3L Quad 4 Oldsmobile 4 bangers to big 7.0L LS7 V8's making over 500 HP. Because of the detachable plastic body parts, it's easier to service than an MR2. Because of the overbuilt steel spaceframe chassis, it's MUCH safer than the MR2. And because the suspension was derived from 2 different cheap GM platforms (front suspension from a Chevette, rear suspension is like the front suspension of a GM A or W-body), it's less twitchy and more forgiving than the MR2 while having extremely similar cornering limits. It also has more luggage space, is more comfortable, and quieter.
Asher Fisher
Uh, no you actually won't deal with that much lag is you get the twin scroll turbo manifold from the gen 3 3SGTE, and the CT6 twin scroll turbo, you'll have to swap out the pistons and redo the fuel system, but you can easily hit 300-350hp without a lot of lag, you're talking about swapping in a modern 3.5 V6 like it's nothing, except its actually more difficult that just working on the 3SGTE
Gabriel Long
>actually defending more lag, more weight and more twitchiness over a superior V6 swap
Justin Smith
Get AW11. Start with Mk1.Simply more worth it. I got mine as a second car( for 4k in pristine condition) Now thinking of getting the SW20 (one of the most beautiful cars I have ever seen). So far experience with AW11 is that It never gets boring and I am always so invested in driving it. But I dump a shitload money into it. Its not for you if you are on shoestring budget.
Tyler Garcia
>actually defending more lag Reading comprehension nigger, do you have it? >more weight Nope, adding a V6 that gas no business being there is more weight >more twitchiness Bullshit, it would be worse with a V6
Benjamin Stewart
What do you spend the money on?
Nathaniel Morales
Fiero
Brandon Wood
Learn how to actually drive a mid engine car before you start trying to add crazy power. Throttle lift oversteer isn't a meme, it's all too real
Nicholas Rivera
You didn't read the original post. The entire V6 drivetrain, including transmission, is lighter than the turbo I4
Jackson Gray
I meant as far as maintenance goes.
Benjamin Russell
A Fiero is infinitely easier to work on than ANY MR2.
Jaxson Hughes
But I want an mr2.
Aaron Miller
why?
Oliver Morgan
I heard MR2s were badly gimped in American imports, is this true?
Ryan King
yes
Grayson Evans
What is gimped exactly?
Julian Richardson
>tfw sw30 isn't even considered
it's in the same price range as the sw20, weighs less, and can be built to 300whp on the stock 1zz with a turbo kit from MWR.
just throwin that out there.
Mason Howard
>sw30
Jonathan Johnson
>implying it isn't the best gen
Joshua Hughes
Because I don't like fieros Or you could swap in a 2zz
Elijah Sullivan
you could, but if you're only looking for 300-350hp the 1zz can handle that.
MWR recommends building internals when you hit the 325+ mark, and they have tuned a lot of 1zz & 2zz's.
Owen Myers
But then you don't get lift, plus is be happy with ~250 HP.
Landon Reed
you won't get 250whp with an n/a 2zz
Christopher James
And how much work is involved in making the engine fit compared to not even haing to take the engine out to swap turbines. You sound like a $500 and an afternoon type of guy. Overoptimistic but have probably never even swapped anything before.
Hudson Brown
user everybody knows v6 mr2s are awesome but there's a good reason not many people have done them.
it's expensive as shit
Angel Wright
what do you mean?
usdm market didn't get the naturally aspirated 3S-GE, we got the 3S-GTE turbo model and the 5S-FE camry engine n/a model.
Cooper Anderson
it's zzw30, not sw30
Matthew Campbell
American MR2 without a turbo has a really useless engine. May as well be an 800cc diesel.
Christian Collins
The Boxster is a superior handling car and you can get 300hp out of a 1999+ Boxster S without an engine swap or even adding a turbo! (Porsche detuned the engine to exaggerate the difference between the Boxster and 911, you gain 25hp just from "desnorkling" the intake and installing a less restrictive exhaust.)
Parker Rivera
Big oil consumption,crampy engine bay, never stops rusting. I had to spend weeks and weeks on sanding and bondoing that shit. Tons of electrical problems I simply had to pay someone that knows that shit to get it to work. Also its like 9l/100km which is shitton in europe.
But it is so much fun and I love it so much its fucking ridiculous. I wouldn't part with it for any reason and it is going to be mine forever and ever.
Thomas Sullivan
I crashed it.
Hudson Cox
someone post the mister 2 girlfriend pasta
Nicholas Carter
That's nice but they are more expensive and cost more to maintain.