Tell me about Kei cars? I was doing some ambien listening to Giorgio and playing that game on my famicom and i was wondering if there are any you can get for cheap in America?
I am looking into the Honda DEL SOL I want to race it guys its be pretty fucking amaizng i think
i always liked initial d when iw as a kid and it what drove me to keep going now im old and poor and depressed and ij ust want to feel good again i use to be so into cars man then i had to sell them all i just feelnothing but bad
thoghts?
Anthony Reed
The Honda Del Sol is not a kei car. It's too big.
Here are literal kei cars that HAVE been sold in America: Suzuki Samurai Suzuki Sidekick Geo Tracker Smart Fortwo Geo Metro Suzuki Swift Suzuki X90
Everything else you find in America that's a kei car is imported. Keep in mind the engines for American market cars are twice the displacement and often more than twice as powerful because 'merica.
Juan Ortiz
Too big
Matthew Hill
yes. The Del Sol is too big to be a kei car. japanese regulations are extremely strict, restricting kei cars to specific dimensions (length, and width, but no specifications for height). All Kei cars MUST have a 660 cc engine (just barely over half a liter) and can produce no more than 64 HP at most. The only kei car in existence to not use every scrap of size allowed by the regulations is the Smart Fortwo.
Owen Garcia
The cars you suggested are too big
Grayson Evans
still considered kei cars in Japan. which is what matters. The US market versions had larger bumpers, bigger engines and suspension changes to suit the US market regulations
>too big. They're a fuckton smaller than the Honda OP was considering.
Nathaniel Howard
>op wants fun race car >suggests off Rosser and a geo metro
Kill yaself!
Jaxon Collins
>OP says kei cars >guys, he means racecars! I Swear! fuck off retard. Go back to fucking your AE86 plush toy.
Jose Gray
Suzuki Alto Honda Beat Honda S660
Ian Gray
and none of them available in America.
Sebastian Miller
>the only kei car in existence to not use every scrap of size allowed by the regulations is the Smart Fortwo No. You're forgetting most of the kei sportscars that mazda and suzuki and honda came out with in the 90s.
You're gonna have to import, op. There's nothing in america that's actually a kei car, except the jimny (samurai). Get a Beat or an AZ-1
Logan Green
>No. You're forgetting most of the kei sportscars that mazda and suzuki and honda came out with in the 90s. Those still used the maximum allowed length and width
Nathan Peterson
Ah so they are. My bad.
Ethan Miller
jelly Americans. The alto is already importable and possibly early honda beats or toyota seras to burgerland
Jeremiah Young
thanks >import man thats expensive
Ryder Scott
OP, I don't think you understand just how truly small a Japanese kei car is. To illustrate the point, here is a Mazda Autozam AZ-1 next to a Chevrolet Suburban SUV
Cooper Fisher
early beats are legal to import now, yeah
Logan Sullivan
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Dominic Reed
Richfags duck off as I am as
Easton Watson
What? They are less than 10k in canuckistan, don't seem to get rice tax as other imports
Daniel Thompson
Richfags
Mason Young
I'm sorry sir but 10k maplemuney isn't as much in American shekels. 1 CAD is like 0.72 USD
10k R32s here, 20k R32s in burgerland with is funny
Sebastian Wilson
The Del Sol was built on the Civic's platform. It was heavier, less practical, and more expensive than a Civic. Why would you want a Del Sol?
Parker Rogers
>Doing ambien Hope you don't do this too often or you will literally become a zombie t. Someone who used it to sleep for too long
Easton Sanders
I'm sorry if you think 10k is rich, you must be on ebt and live in the ultra ghetto
Cooper Morgan
You're a dipshit
Oliver Wood
Don't forget the Daihatsu Charade
Alexander Hill
The smart is the kei car on that list dummy
Charles Price
cute
Connor Perez
hes not wrong
Ian Rogers
It's smaller than a civic
Jordan Harris
the 3rd gen charade isn't a kei car the only charade that's a kei car is the rebadged mira sold in europe and even those technically aren't kei cars because they have 989cc engine not 660cc
all kei cars have yellow license plates btw
Cooper Taylor
Del Sol weighs 2522, EK Civic weighs 2359 for the coupe and a little more for the hatch. The wheelbase of the del Sol is 10 inches shorter though. That floppy chassis plus the added weight makes it a complete turn off for me though
Logan Brown
>floppy Nope
Chase Perry
>smart Engine is too big to be a kei Same goes to most of that list To be a kei car you need to have a 0.6cc engine Smarts used to have that and were even sold as kei in Japan. But as soon the second gen came with the 0.9 turbo engines, they were no longer kei
Owen Ross
Get a Suzuki cappuccino op It's like the viper of the kei cars
Adam Baker
Rwd is gross
Andrew Diaz
>floppy yep
Thomas Cox
What part of engines made bigger for the American market did you not understand? In Japan, the Smart is sold with a 660cc engine and is classified as a kei car. All that matters with that list is they are kei cars in JAPAN. god fucking damnit. reading > you
William Carter
vat de fook
Aaron Watson
Confirmed for not driving it It's so fucking fantastic
Benjamin Myers
>tfw want a small light weight three door hatchback with 80s or 90s styling for cheap >tfw cant find anything
Joseph Price
twingo
Grayson Thompson
nope not cheap
Tyler Jones
I've driven it dude, a friend owns one. Its just as flexible as a miata, if not more. This is a known issue with the del Sol, there are tons of braces and bars that are on the market purely for the del Sol and it's floppy chassis. Everyone on the forums is aware of it and tries to fix it.
Lopping the roof off of a civic and modifying the rear subframe to allow the retractable rear window are going to hurt rigidity. It's not that hard to wrap your head around.
Andrew Nelson
How poor are you if you can't afford a shitbox like Twingo?
Joshua Barnes
>weld the roof in Wow that was hard
Logan Morris
twingo is probably over 8k man
Blake Gray
Where do you live? Where I live they are about $600-700 USD
Xavier Bailey
america
Brandon Scott
>buy a civic instead wow that was hard
Also the roof is made of fiberglass, you can't "weld it in".
Nicholas Foster
>civic instead But those are pigfat and ugly
Daniel Thomas
They weigh less you nigger
Carson Allen
I take it you missed the line about usdm models getting different engines?
You're stupid.
Caleb Ramirez
Too big
Grayson Rivera
Del sols are high 2200s to 2350s depending on trim you retard
Jacob Allen
>2522
Gabriel Hill
It's 10 inches longer lol calm down
Ayden Smith
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Jose Lewis
Geo Tracker is literally the perfect automobile
Andrew Wilson
This is correct. Mine is pic related (taken a few hours ago after a night deep in the Rockies).
Tyler Green
Cappuccino vs AZ-1 Which do you prefer and why? I like the look and roof options of the cappuccino, but the AZ-1 is MR meme race
Julian Collins
are you saying MR is better than FR? Are you saying RWD is superior to FWD
Asher Bailey
>MR is better than FR Not necessarily, but I don't know much about this subject >RWD is superior to FWD Isn't it?
Brody Rodriguez
The Cappucino and AZ-1 were both RWD so don't start the FWD vs RWD argument when it wasn't brought up.
Personally, I'd take the AZ1. And not because it's MR. I chose it because it has an enclosed roof. I don't like convertibles. I would quite like my head to stay attached to my body in a crash.
Hudson Martinez
>Isn't it No it's not
Camden Ramirez
Neither of the cars I brought up are FWD, why did you have to bring this up?
Austin Phillips
because isnt FWD BAD
Xavier Long
no. It isn't. Stop making a big deal out of this.
If FWD is so bad, explain by BMW repeatedly lost to a FWD Daewoo in the WTCC.
Logan Sanders
>2026 >can't find a decent Tracker/Sidekick that's not that disgusting 1999 and up bullshit
Why bother living.
Why bother living
Ethan Scott
FWD is shit fuck off
Levi Carter
>assmad his glorious RWD god-machine BMW can't keep up with a FWD Daewoo.
Isaac Cox
BMW is shit and so is FWD, fuck off
William Brooks
>unironically posting a motorsport that penalises RWD to give the inferior drivetrain a chance wew lad
Ayden Turner
It's not penalised because it's better it's penalised because it's weight distribution is different.
Elijah Lee
Cappuccino without a doubt. Can fit a 1299 up front and I prefer how they look.
They're convertible hard tops and people tend to stick cages in them anyway.
Brandon Murphy
I've always wondered this since I've learned about kei cars. Could you fit a rotary in something like a Cappuccino?
Blake Hernandez
Yes a 13B will fit. Nothing much bigger though. You'd be better off using a Hayabusa engine since either would require almost a full rebuild.