/vn/ - Fluffy Edition

>the shitposting was so bad, the mods just said "fuck it" and deleted the thread

>eceleb and MG shill thread get nuked
based mods

What just happened?

Let's make /vn/ a Yuritopia!

E-celeb shitposter got all his posts deleted and then the mods deleted the thread for some reason. Whatever.

exhentai.org/s/f9ee7d0d10/595605-1

Let's talk about best Corona Blossoms.

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What was the biggest blunder of 2016 this, Tokyo Babel or Supipara?

babel was just an expensive license. CB was an entire game, so probably the latter.

Probably Tokyo Babel thanks to A list seiyuu. Must have cost a pretty penny.

Has it dropped in Japan yet? I wonder how it did there.

Have you read W happiness yet?

Evolve stage 2. They made a AAA $60 title F2P to get more players, then immediately killed it again with shitty balancing that caused a 75% player drop.

Or are we talking just VN's? In which case i'd say Dies Irae's announcement was the big blunder.

I don't even know why they went with the episodic kinetic novel format with zero marketing or hype. It's like they wanted to fail.

Do you think there were people who boycotted it in Japan because the West happened to get it first? That'd be kind of funny.

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I see your Rise and raise you another.

Is it over? did they finally die?

Yes

but MG shill thread was the better thread

Let's make /vn/ a Yuuritopia!

About to get an injection of funds from the chronoclock kickstarter so no.

>fallen wine glass near her crotch
That's just asking for trouble really, Le Soleil d'Ecole should know better.

>Is it over? did they finally die?

Not a chance with all that chronoclock dosh. It's probably lonely because everyone is out getting shitfaced drunk.

they'll probably only get 25% of it, honestly

most of it will be spent on the rewards since it's primarily being used to sell merchandise.

unless they go the way of RD and don't give the backer rewards

i hope so

They have the release for January and yet have only done 30% of the translation in the 14 months they've had it. It's definitely going to get hit with a delay.

oh, i don't doubt that. they most likely won't have it out by January.

interesting thing to note though is that the 18+ tier has over 3 times as much people supporting is as the tier which only includes the all-ages version.

So much for 18+ content not selling.

Gotta admit, Key writing is pretty shit, but they know their way around pathos.

I'm not sure what causes companies to think "Hey, let's remove all the porny elements, we will surely sell more then" when dealing with a niche market in a genre where 18+ stuff is the norm rather than the exception.

Is Key working on anything interesting right now?

>Key
>interesting
Only if they hire Romeo again.

No thanks, he can keep his Shoukomeza shit to himself

I have a feeling that I would love clannad if their pacing wasn't so absolutely atrocious. Had to drop it after two routes so I just watched the anime and had a good ol' time.

It's probably the worst thing about key games in general. I like LB! a lot since it was one of my first visual novels, but I'm never re-reading it. Too much fucking bullshit.

i've heard rewrite was a lot better with the pacing, but i'm still half dreading reading it. Can anyone confirm? I've pushed it back twice in the backlog...

If their writing is successful in evoking an emotional reaction out of you, doesn't that mean in some aspect it is good writing, even if in other aspects it is not?

Rewrite's pacing in all the routes is fine, more or less (the non-Romeo routes a bit less so). The common route is like 10 hours long, but it's honestly well paced and a pretty enjoyable ride.

Are you new to /vn/? Everything can only be amazing or shit. There is no middle ground.

I haven't read Clannad, but I wouldn't say Rewrite has a great pacing. It does slice of life extremely well though, so it's not really a problem.

It's only one side of writing, it doesn't make it good. I cried at Planetarian and I still think the writing was underwhelming and unsurprising.

>10 hours long
I'd have said twice that.

>underwhelming
How so? Do you mean the prose? Maybe I'm just not cultured enough, but my general opinion is that while great prose can really enhance a story, decent prose that gets the job done is fine and not a negative in the slightest.

Does a story need to be unpredictable to be good?

Possibly. It's been a long time.

pathos is generally considered more lowbrow because it's purportedly easier to do, or something.

personally i find it hard to get emotionally invested in stories to the point of crying, so i respect stories which are able to do that--or anything close to it--more than most people do, i'd imagine.

I'd disagree, pathos is pretty easy to fuck up. I get emotionally invested in pretty easily, but I've seen too many things that are obviously a to make the audience cry and it just doesn't work. I wouldn't call Key amazing, but they sure know how to work the crying formula.

no

i'm a disgusting EOP

also filthy frank taught me one word of japanese from his 'i eat ass' video

Is this the greatest kamige of our time?

rate my backlog/tell me what to read next

Aiyoku no Eustia (Pending Complete Translation)
Ayakashibito
Boob Wars
Boob Wars 2
Bunny Black
Canvas 2
CLANNAD
Comyu Kuroi Ryuu to Yasashii Oukoku
Daibanchu
Detective Masochist
Demonbane
Duel Savior
Eden
ef - The First Tale
ef - The Latter Tale
Ever17
Fate/Stay Night
Flowers: Spring
Forest
G Senjou Maou
Galaxy Angel
Grisaia: Labyrinth + Leisure
Hanachirasu
Higurashi no Naku Koro ni
Hoshizora no memoria
Idol Mahou Shoujo Chiruchiru * Michiru (1+2)
Ikikoi
Imouto Paradise
Kamidori
Kara no Shoujo
Kira*Kira
Little Busters!
Little Witch Romanesque
Marunomi
Minna Daisuki Koyukuri Banchou
Monster Girl Quest
Muv-Luv
Muv-Luv Alternate
Narcissu
Noble Works
Period
Planetarian
Quartett
Rewrite
Saya no Uta
Sekien no Inganock
Sengoku Rance
Sharin no Kumi
Shikkoki no Sharnoth
SHINY DAYS
Steins;Gate
Swan Song
ToHeart 2 (Pending Complete Translation)
Umineko
Utawarerumono
Wanko to Kurasou
Yumina

Utawarerumono. It's kamige.

Umineko. It's kamige.

i'm just repeating to you what i've heard most people say in regards to pathos, be in on Veeky Forums or otherwise.

it varies from people to people, you know? and how much exposure they've had to various kinds of media. as you say, once you've read enough, watched enough film, or heard enough music, all the emotional manipulations become more and more overtly obvious and it's easy to become cynical about it.

it's definitely a talent in-and-of-itself to make works which consistently make seasoned readers cry. i'm not really big on Key (as i've only read a work or two of theirs), but even my friend (who is a cynical as they get) supposedly cried to Clannad. but then again he hasn't had too much exposure to visual novels in general.

i think what Key really needs is a good editor.

So this is the thread that won?
good.

Yeah, that's what I mean. I rarely cry at anything and the other day I watched the Air anime and sobbed like a little bitch. Of course nothing works for everyone, but Key is pretty skilled at pushing a wide range of people's buttons.

I agree on the need of an editor.

No, that would be Fate.

How many people are in this pic?

Saya no Uta
its kamige AND you could finish it in a night

Three

I never cried until after I got divorced. Now anything that reminds me that I'm gonna be alone and never have a family that loves me sets me off. I cried like a girl a lot during Grisaia, especially during Yumiko's, Makina's and Anime's route.

Play Eden, it's great.

>Anime's route

read katawa shoujo. It's kamige

That isn't Fate/stay night.

Z E R O (0

:O)

I already have twice tho

user was typing through his tears.

Idk if you're joking or not but Disabilty Girls is actually an /evn/ kamige

Would it take me longer for me to learn japanese or for Dies Irae and Subahibi to be translated?

oh boy yumiko's ending with the happy child you have together must have been rough

Nice blogshit retard.

Fuck, I'm sorry man. I hope things work out for you.

>Western visual novels should be posted here, and Japanese visual novels on /jp/. Translated visual novels are allowed on either board.

Yeah, it was bad.

at least you got further than most of us have. I can't even find a girl that shows interest in me, let alone divorce me.

It is translated, into MANY different languages :)

im sorry for opinions

>Pending Complete Translation
lol
>Ayakashibito
decent chuu2
>Boob Wars
bad
>Boob Wars 2
good moe nukige
>Bunny Black
fun characters and setting. ok gameplay.
>Canvas 2
bad
>CLANNAD
nakige
>Daibanchu
great game. LONG.
>Demonbane
very fun chuu2 and frequently filled with self-parody
>Duel Savior
fun game.
>Eden
good and short.
>Ever17
bad pacing. good twists.
>Fate/Stay Night
good. though the dry and mediocre translation undermines it for EOPs.
>Forest
more interesting than good. just plain bad in the english translation.
>G Senjou Maou
i hate this one personally, but it's very popular and loved so it's worth giving a shot.
>Grisaia
funny. has a very good translation. a bit too long and some of the routes are just shit.
>Hanachirasu
entertaining read even if it isn't as good as Muramasa. great translation.
>Higurashi no Naku Koro ni
entertaining.
>Hoshizora no memoria
the type of moege i don't like. but it has its fans.
>Ikikoi
lol
>Imouto Paradise
god-tier Itou Life art.
>Kamidori
if you like grinding and dress up it's a good game.
>Period
really bad.
>Planetarian
nakige
>Quartett
entertaining and short.
>Rewrite
good, though inconsistent.
>Saya no Uta
great and short.
>Sekien no Inganock
wait for koestl to translate it
>Sengoku Rance
very fun and often challenging.
>Sharin no Kuni
decent. only Looseboy i could stand. the protagonist and antagonist make this one (as it should be in all VNs)
>Shikkoki no Sharnoth
wait for koestl to translate it
>Steins;Gate
overrated, but still pretty entertaining.
>Swan Song
very good.
>ToHeart 2
no
>Umineko
the most polarizing VN ever?
>Utawarerumono
everything is great except the gameplay

Bunny Black 2, Yume Miru Kusuri, Tomoyo After,
Cannonball - Neko Neko Machine Mou Race,
Maji de Watashi ni Koi Shinasai + the sequels to it (you've seriously not done this one?)
Beat Blades Haruka, Cho Dengeki Stryker,
My Girlfriend is the President (Also amazed you haven't read this one)

any of those would be good choices based on the things you've read, but i'd recommend Majikoi or My Girlfriend is the president for first picks.

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>everything is great except the gameplay
You should write VN reviews. I'm not joking.

Yume Miru
Kamige
and not Moege

so tsun

Umineko is definitely the most polarizing VN. Never seen such a stark contrast between love and hate in a fanbase.

Why is this?

Newfags play it and think it's the best thing ever because it's long and meta, while patricians realize how stupid and poorly written it is.

except for grisaia

Since I was younger, I've always had a fantasy where a doctor tells my sister that she needs my cum to live, and then we'd fuck daily, sadly it never happened

Is there a VN like this? There has to be

>inb4 not relevant

i feel weird that I've dumped hundreds of hours into VNs yet have only completed two and I'm halfway through a third.

How is that even possible?

He played two 50+ hour VNs? I know a guy who said fate was over 200 hours for him.

maybe he's one of those guys who listens to the entirety of the voiced dialogue.

>Read KS
>Read Grisaia
>Read KS Again
>Halfway through LWR

Oh wait I forgot I also finished PE
It must not be that memorable

>I know a guy who said fate was over 200 hours for him.
what the fuck

he was probably just idling for most of it.