So Veeky Forums, why is the K24A2 the best engine swap for the NA/NB Miata?

>implying trolling

>calling 13b or ls swaps shit for miatas
>not trolling
Tell me how I know you're a faggot.

Gaydar
>implying an LS swap doesn't fuck up the F/R weight balance
>implying rotaries are better at anything except fucking up
I'm talking about the best NA 4cylinder in production, and you give me shit
Congrats on being retarded

>~230whp is between $6-8000
Oh god is that how bad your life really is? Jesus I didnt know some people had it so hard!!

>190whp B6 N/A
youtube.com/watch?v=EmHSFWfjwbg

>700+whp BP Turbo (same engine)
youtube.com/watch?v=Dh8I63a1CJY
youtube.com/watch?v=40-nMVGupXk

but yeaah lemme spend 8 grand on 230whp bruh

>rotaries
>not being the superior engine
kek, you're the retard m8.

Right, cause taking a 323 engine and dabbing up mounts and creating a trans adapter plate isn't expensive at all, sure cunt
>BP turbo
Spending even more money than you would on a K series to get the same horsepower, you really are a fuckwit

Stay deluded you thick cunt

>stay deluded
>6-8k for 230whp
kek
Rotaries make more power cheaper and are significantly more interesting to drive.

>taking a 323 engine
BRUH
ITS THE SAME ENGINE
lol

>Spending even more money than you would on a K series
r u dumb? 8 grand is a fuckload of money, how stupid would it be to spend all that shit and be stuck at 230whp at best? Cams, pistons, rods EMS and the other little supporting shit is basic AF and not 8 large.

If you consider flooding, sounding like a lawnmower, and fucking up your apex seals interesting then I guess you have a point

You sound like you've never driven, owned, or worked on a rotary ever before.

>i'm gonna join this conversation like if i had a clue, surely no one will notice how retarded i am

>1500 for the engine
>3500 for the kit
If you do it yourself and not be a pansy it can be done for a little over 5k

Owned an FB and I know exactly what I'm talking about, take off your rose tinted glasses

Why would you own an FB if you hate rotaries? That's the point of buying an RX-7 anyway.

Handed down from my dad, was my first car and holy shit was it a nightmare
>flooded all the fucking time
>electrics had a mind of their own
>driving home from the beach at 80km/h when the engine just lost oil pressure and left me stranded

Rotaries, never again

So you got a car that wasn't correctly looked after or tuned and you based your entire opinion of rotaries on that?

Nah m8, dad worked meticulously on this thing and would help me maintain it, teach me the ropes and what not, rotaries are just simply unreliable heaps

They got it right when they made piston engines, should never have deviated off that track

>i owned an fb
>i'm only aware of the memes
nice try

>>flooded all the fucking time
Sounds like you have no idea how to treat a rotary

the faggot never owned one

>memes
Think what you want, all be it you're insane, but I owned an 83 FB

M8, rotaries don't know what to do with petrol

>memeing this hard
wew lad, no need to pretend so hard.

This is probably true.

>rotaries don't know what to do with petrol
They fucking burn it, albeit not 100% completely

>you are the caliber of the average piston-cuck

LS is only like 100 pounds heavier than the stock block, and because the LS is mounted very far back your weight distribution moves forward by only one point

the barrier to entry is cost, don't budget less than $10k for an ls swap even if you do it all yourself, there's so much shit you need to change

No, it just sounds like your retarded and don't actually know how to maintain one.

>the stupid tax
ahahaha i love it!

Look faggot, I owned your precious little snowflake engine and it was shit, the fact that you keep defending those heaps is pure insanity

And no one here has yet to come up with a better swap, B6 faggot included

They fucking choke on it more than burn it

>10k swap
>still heavier
Still not better

Nah, it's the Arch of engines
>inefficient
>constantly breaks
>defended fiercely by neckbeards on a Chinese fingerpainting website

>b-b-but muh $500 and an afternoon.

If you're poor I guess

>your poor for not wanting to waste your time and money fucking up your car

Right

>They fucking choke on it more than burn it
That is 100% false

I understand rotaries are different and require an owner that isn't a retard, so it makes sense you wouldn't like it.

That's right. Only stupid people are allowed to pay the stupid tax.

>I understand rotaries are painfully inefficient tinker toys and require an autistic sperglord to maintain it

Fix'd

>implying it's at all possible to fuck up a Miata any worse than when they rolled off the assembly line

Rotary engines:
The only engine where power is measured in good boy points

This guy gets it. Everyone agrees with him too, just read any given publication for proof. Please guys, you have to believe him.

Those premixes better be measured correctly or its fucked

>i owned a fb
>really, you believe me don't you

>someone has more knowledge of an engine that I do
>they must be autistic!!
Stick to Camrys and Accords big guy

youtu.be/dDZDTiC-xdA

>samefagging and memeing this hard

...

You do realize that nobody here actually believes you owned a FB, let alone know how to tune a rotary right?

N/A 12A's and 13B's are widely known as the most reliable of the series and commonly live past 200k on regular maintenance. That's hardly debatable, go to a dedicated forum and you'll see guys still running on their original seals.

If your supposed FB was breaking and stranded you, it was most likely because of bad maintenance and your retarded dad fucking it up.

>being this autistic defending an shit engine

not that guy, but you got owned and that's the best reply you could give us? disappoint

Right, cause it couldn't possibly be a flaw in the design? Come off it m8

>being this ass blasted nobody believes his bait story.

>too stupid for thing to operate correctly
>thing is shit!!!1!1!!!1

The only """"""""""design flaw"""""""""" in them is that when they have mentally retarded owners who don't know what the fuck they're doing, they go to shit really quickly.

I acknowledge rotaries have flaws and aren't perfect 100%,

But if you break a N/A 12A or 13B, chances are it's either because you did power modifications, tuned it improperly, or simply didn't maintain it.

What about a VR6 swap???

>they go to shit really quickly.
That's not the right thing to say, I should have said that they give you shit until you treat them right.

>$8k for 230whp

lmao

nope google monster miata: 302 ford windsor v8! then if you get bored you can always twin turbo! yes it will be a widowmaker...

spend 8 grand on a BPT? #coolstorybro

3SGE BEAMS

Nice
You might as well put a KL in it if you want a small displacement V6

>Still not better
a completely bone stock LS1 will put down 400 hp at the wheels, in a 2300lb car you get scary fast acceleration and torque like you would not believe

>anything but an all aluminium 13b or 20b

lol cuck

You're a retard
I couldn't flood my fb if I tried

LS1 is rated at ~330hp
400hp at the wheels = 470hp at the crank
So no, not really.

>get in car
>hold accelerator pedal to floor for 1 minute
>now try to start car
>flooded

no need to swap
with turbo and some forged parts you quite easily reach 250hp-300hp

250hp miatas are already ridiculously fast

miatabusa is cool

That's easily doable with a cam

>~230hp for $6-8k
>paying 8 grand to barely break 200hp on a swapped motor
>not just turboing the existing I4
>dumping 8 grand into an engine for a sub 300hp miata

Dude what in the fuck is going through your skull. There are plenty of better swaps that provide better power to cost, ease of installation, and weight savings, like, say, a turboing the existing miata i4, or doing a dual rotor turbo build. Fuck, for $8k you could shoehorn a 426 hemi with a roots blower into a miat.

I'd rather a KL swap desu

well it sure will NOT fuck the balance up

its a good engine but where the fuck are you finding one?