Previous thread: >What is Paragon? Paragon is a new MOBA by Epic Games. Powered by Unreal Engine 4, the game possesses most of the trappings of other MOBAs: 5v5 objective-based games, heroes, lanes, towers, minons and so on. With a a sci-fi fantasy feel to it, the game is available on PC and PS4, featuring cross-play and cross-progression. It is currently in open beta.
>What's special about Paragon? Similar to SMITE, Paragon uses a third-person behind-the-back camera and WASD controls instead of a top-down view. Unlike SMITE, this game takes full advantage of the Z-axis: you can aim up or down and there's multiple levels of elevation. In addition, Paragon uses a card system, which is, for all intents and purposes, a player-customized item shop for individual characters that you build before the game; cards can only be earned with in-game currency, meaning you can't buy power.
>Do I have to unlock heroes? No. Like DOTA 2, all heroes are free to everyone. What you can purchase with in-game currency is a character's Master Challenge, which essentially lets you unlock extra skins, taunts and boosters.
Because everyone is having fun and actually playing the game
Hunter Watson
>cloak, slash, dagger, then ult for a billion damage in a guaranteed flowchart, then turn invisible and jump away >one of the most effective heroes at higher level play and recommended for advanced players only in-game >buffed recently, could be better than we even know
>this is somehow a shit hero
Oliver Cook
Kallari's ult doesn't hit for a billion, though. It does minimal damage but gives her a global enemy teleport and global vision. She simply doesn't hit as hard as she should.
Reposting from the previous thread:
The problem with Kallari is that she doesn't feel like your typical assassin. Your MOBA assassin has three pillars: >Is difficult to catch >Is able to delete targets of opportunity at a moment's notice >has the weakest defenses Kallari is 2 for 3: she's incredibly slippery with her stealth and double jump, and she will get wiped out very quickly if she's caught. Right now, she doesn't have the raw killing power you'd come to expect from an assassin. Old Kallari was a one-trick pony: either you hit your ult, or you lose the fight. Current Kallari has a lot more utility (permastealth, a slow on her dagger, global enemy vision/global teleport on her ult), but she can't remove targets of opportunity by herself. That's a problem.
is there a list of what rewards you get at what paragon levels, or is it actually random?
Easton Mitchell
I guess all we can really do is wait for a second assassin to arrive and contrast with Kallari. Right now, she feels like a utility assassin, which is admittedly rather unique as MOBAs go. I'm waiting for an assassin with absolute killing power. The funny thing is that the closest thing to that is Khaimera.
Some early levels are clear-cut rewards, like deck slots, card packs, boosters, etc. Most of the time, though, your reward is a "Tribute," which is a randomized reward of the previous offers.
Jayden Roberts
have a webm
Gideon is crazy fun
Jason Gomez
that looks smooth af. My game stutters like crazy, any large fight and it drops to 4fps or less.
Jaxon Rodriguez
Sounds like it's time for you to upgrade. I'm pulling 1080p60 on medium settings with a mid-tier card from last year.
Adam Lopez
These better cost 650 funbucks or less, because that's all I have at the moment.
Gavin Morgan
What time is the patch for whatshertits? Is there even a patch or was that what the maint on the 10th was for?
Brandon Green
9AM EDT
New hero tomorrow
Camden Kelly
damn, well thank you. I was hoping she was already out, she looks pretty fun. At least i'll get to sleep before she comes out.
Jace Brown
Someone asked this in the other thread.
"anyone know if co-op vs. bots gives the same rewards as regular matches, for grinding out boosts?"
It gives out exactly the same time-based rewards as PvP, but matches tend to end quicker so smart players typically drag out the match to the rewards cap of 42 minutes. Any less than that partly wastes a win-boost or daily.
Jeremiah Brooks
Why is combat movement so slow this game feels like Smite but slowed by 50% .
Wait for card crafting like the rest of us, while Epic delays it to rake in the shekels from boosts.
They could probably program a card buyback system or a way to burn cards to get unowned cards in a day, but the grind-to-win, pay-to-grind-faster system is proven and effective.
Zachary Gray
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Blake Ross
Are any of the heroes useless?
Who should I play of i want teammates to be grateful?
Justin Morgan
A good dekker
Andrew Nguyen
>TWO discords >Thread dies
this is why I said discord is shit fucking retards
Dylan Allen
Dekker if you want to want to be responsible for keeping people safe/locking down enemies and setting them up for kills.
Muriel if you want to keep people safe in a slightly less effective, but much more noticeable way.
Don't play Narbash.
As long as you buy a 3 cost ward item your team will be grateful regardless of who you're playing.
Grayson Cox
>I have minimal health it's a 2v1 and i'm going do minimal dmg to these minions better waste my peel on that instead of gtfo
that steel was retarded was that AI?
Nathan Hill
>Don't play Narbash It hurts so much
Leo Wood
Narbash is great, actually people love any good support so Muriel, Dekker or Narbash
DO NOT PLAY KALLARI like ever she is the only useless character atm because even after the buff her dmg is shit especially in a armor/health meta and Grux and Khaimera literally do her job better than her in every way
Michael Powell
Bunch of Morons
Liam Wood
Some of them are, in the sense that other heroes are simply better though not unplayable.
To name a few: Sparrow, Rampage, Fey, Kallari.
Just make sure to view their abilities instead of their role/type which doesn't really mean anything.
>Who should I play of i want teammates to be grateful? If "grateful" is the sole reason, then Muriel or Dekker. You win matches more by using a jungler carry though.
Luke Gray
Don't listen to these idiots
Wyatt Butler
Fey and Narbash are unplayable
Henry Myers
>look at the other Narbash
Connor Carter
>Narbash is great How so?
His heal sucks Dekker also has a stun Dekker also has a speed boost and the jump is great Containment is better than crash bang boom
Julian Murphy
>look at this 59 vs 14 stomp >truly this is a good representation of this hero with only 3 abilities
Luke Thompson
>Rampage >can solo towers most of the time with his ult
>Fey >annoying as fuck and can cripple minion wave easily
You guys need to stop giving bad advice to the new players, jungler is the worst thing you can advise some one new to play because it's already bad enough most "skilled" junglers have no fucking clue how to jungle and you end up with 3 of these fucks on your team leaving the other 2 players to get fucking deathballed.
Jose Walker
well, you can always play them vs ai or something.
Nicholas Gutierrez
Pls post build. What do I do with him early game?
Nolan Wood
Narbash stun is more reliable and last longer Since he's a fighter his dmg and health etc. scale better than the casters he has a higher win ratio than the other supports
>B-BUT HIS HEAL SUCKS
yeah he has one skill that's under performing which you can just balance out with a circlet of healing and clearheart anyway
Leo James
>yeah he has one skill that's under performing which you can just balance out with a circlet of healing and clearheart anyway
>use two items just so his one skill becomes mediocre
That's fucking awful
Bentley Jackson
2 cards that SUPPORT you AND your team are bad ( you know Narbash doing his ROLE )
sorry man that was an old deck I got from agora.gg I don't remember which one I use my own for solo queue though since it's not as premade necessary like that old one
►Empyrean Mask ►Circlet of health w/ 3x Advanced Mana ►Quartzblade w/ 3x Greater Health ►Satori Cloak w/ Greater barrier ►Clearheart w/ pure spark and perfect spark ►Madspore Sash w/ Divine guard and beta heal
You start with the circlet so you can sustain longer early game
2nd I usually find it best to go to the Quatzblade giving you a bit of mana regen and dmg early also you can start pumping health making you a tank even earlier before he gets to lvl15
3rd fill out the circlet's mana so you can possibly heal at least a little for you team/minions
the rest in what ever order you feel you need though I usually get the mask since you can switch between regen, armor or dmg on the fly
it's an eccentric build but it checks out.
If you don't have all that (you most likely won't) I recommend his premade "caster - physical dmg" deck until you get those cards.
Try to stay in the back of team fights and either thunk(stun) to initiate or get retreating heroes, he works well with other heroes that can also stun like Rampage or Khaimera, you basically lock someone in place to get rapped by your teamates you can use his ult in a similar fashion.
his kit is ABSOLUTELY difficult solo though so try to never EVER solo lane.
Gabriel Morris
>gnarbash >ult that literally slows you upon using it, allowing people to walk out of it much easier >18hp regen at max level for the whopping value of 40mana per second >medicore stun on an 18 second cooldown
Asher Howard
>Since he's a fighter his dmg and health etc. scale better than the casters
Nigga. His basic attack has .4 scaling like a caster. The fact that he's a melee hero is a drawback because he has to farm from melee range.
Juan Lee
>Since he's a fighter he's a caster
Asher Smith
I really hate the card rng
there are so many good cards for specific heroes
Elijah Ward
Siren Song, Wicked Stigma or Shockwave for my final slot on Riktor?
Shockwave and Stigma have better actives but have worthless stats whereas with Stigma I can reach 40% CDR and get a little extra health.
Jason Garcia
>there are many people who still think greystone isn't a carry
fuck epic for not making this clear enough despite them even say this in the overview video
i get angry whenever i'm asked if i'm jungling or "tanking"(although i do fuck shit up with satori cloak and tempered plate, it's definitely not reliable tanking)
god dammit i'm a laner
AND STOP MAKING ME LANE AGAINST A CASTER
Landon Richardson
Also, why hasn't anyone tried to make SFM porn of the females yet?
Liam Brown
Can those even handle Sparrow's hair?
Jack Young
not with that attitude
Jonathan Kelly
He's not a carry though. He scales like shit. He's just a shit hero in general, but building damage on him works the best because he's bad at everything else.
Soon. The game has to catch on first.
Jonathan Adams
probably by using simplified models
John Harris
Migrating something from UE4 to Source is bound to look kinda ugly. That, plus Paragon doesn't yet have the penetration to warrant SFM porn.
Brayden Diaz
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Jose Edwards
>tfw shitting on noobs with Sparrow >mfw Murdock tries to 1v1 me
She's the best
Colton Gray
>I will spend today finishing up some single player games i've had going for a while >play paragon all day
HELP
Juan Powell
Assuming Sparrow can be kept free, she is a deadly duelist at range.
Joshua Miller
>snipe with murdock across map
>yfw you land a double
Matthew Brooks
I'll be happy with just a single.
Gabriel Gomez
Patch today, boys. Who's actually going to try and queue as Lt. Belica, knowing the day one rush?
Aaron Gomez
gonna try her in solo v bots some, then just go to playing iggy/grux/riktor
She honestly doesn't seem like she'll fit my playstyle so i'm not too worried about being able to play her off the bat.
Leo Barnes
FUCK YOU CRACKY
Jordan Thomas
is it only her or will there be balance changes too?
Juan Harris
It's mostly her, but there are a couple other changes. >New emotes for Gideon, Kallari, TwinBlast, Greystone, Murdock >Black and prime camps will spawn and respawn two minutes faster >Prime guardian has less health >Change to super minion spawning
Parker Ross
user, those match length fixes were patched in early a few days ago
this patch isn't really going to give shit beyond commanding waifu and cosmetics
On the bright side, it does hit pretty hard if an enemy casts anything in its range.
Also, if you hit an entire minion wave with your mana bomb, you effectively refund 3/5 your mana spent on the bomb.
Jaxon Ortiz
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Hudson Campbell
belica looks like powercreep
Lucas Phillips
the generic bass music for this game fucking sucks
Ian Nguyen
>people just straight up dodging if they don't get belica
cool this is gonna be a fun week
Robert Brown
This always happens day one of a new hero. It doesn't help that the hero race is on for her as well. I just played her in a solo vs. AI game to get it out of my system. I'll let everyone else fight over the new waifu.
Levi Mitchell
So, does cop slut's ultimate deal damage based on total enemy mana missing or % missing mana?
Lucas Lewis
>Deal 125|175|225 [energy damage] plus an additional 0.75|1|1.25 [energy damage] per point of target's missing [mana]. Per point of total mana. Lt. Belica is not a slut; she is an upstanding arbiter of justice.
Jordan Adams
>narbashes face when
Josiah Stewart
So everyone who builds raw mana against Belica is fucked.
Isaac Ross
Paragon doujinshi when?
Adrian Adams
just don't cast spells
Andrew Watson
Belica's lore bullet points say her personal life is a "flaming mess." She's clearly someone who dove into her career to get away from everything else.
Josiah Gray
>1500 damage nuke against an empty mage
fuck. This shit is wack.
>like playing pushers >they're ass in closed beta >until update .27 makes their basic attacks good >that change is reverted in a couple of weeks >meanwhile it takes rangers half a year to get nerfed into line >rangers finally get the nerf bat in .29 >then we get an anti-mage hero
the horror won't end
Daniel Bell
narbash is fine, they said just stack mana up, they said
William Johnson
Maybe now the "mana regen sucks" meme won't be such a meme anymore
