Seems like even though there are entire shops dedicated to repairing air conditioning, it still never works quite right once it goes bad the first time - and if you try to DIY, no one really seems to know what the fuck they're talking about, especially on car forums. Threads typically diverge into "uhh yeah just replace everything and hope it works".
If you take it to a shop, they dye the refrigerant, fill it up, and tell you to come back when it stops working again. Then they replace whatevers leaking, and tell add more dye and tell you that, while they fixed the leak, everything else could be leaking as well because path of least resistance, etc.
All of while spending hundreds upon hundreds of dollars for a (((potential temporary fix))).
This begs the question, why are automotive AC systems so shit, and why are shops so shit at "fixing" them?
Eli Thomas
Haven't had any problems with it yet, except, of course, needing a refill.
Grayson Allen
Having to refill refrigerant means that you have a leak
Nolan Cooper
Can we stop
calling fucking everything
that we don't like
a meme
Henry Foster
Depends on the interval. But no, usually not.
Evan Moore
this its a meme
FUCK
Gavin Torres
It's not a meme, your a moron.
AC systems are full of seals and orings that wear with age. In the lines, compressor, etc. If one seal is weaker than the other, it will break. It's nature, rubber gets brittle and Components also go bad. It's amazing right? You use something all the time and it wears down.
The reason most people think AC shops don't fix it is that they don't want to pay for the right fix. They want to be cold again for as cheap as possible. So they don't want to pay for a full service, like :
Vacuum check, fix leaks, vacuum check again. Fill system with freon, ensure all parts are operating, replace worn parts. Fill again.
Very costly compared to just filling it up and waiting to see what may leak. The second method saves on labor, by making you do the leg work. They just fill it up and wait for you to say its out again. Then they see what may have been dyed. Then replace parts and do it again! You will end up spending the same for a much less pleasant experience.
All of Which you could do yourself at an auto store for less. They sell freon and dye.
While half are, not all shops are shit, it's cheap shitty customers. Either pay the price to get it done right a a real shop, or do it yourself. Don't get mad that a shop won't give you $500 worth of labor for free.
Andrew Diaz
Did you read anything in that post or are you the intellectual equivalent of a brick wall
Brayden Moore
Are car engines a meme?
Seems like even though there are entire shops dedicated to repairing car engines, it still never works quite right onice it goes bad the first time - and if you try to DIY, no one really seems to know what the fuck they're talking about, especially on car forums. Threads typically diverge into "Uhh yeah just replace everything and hope it works"
If you take it to a shop, they take your car, keep it for 2 weeks, and tell you to come back when it stops working again. Then they replace whatevers leaking, and tell add more 'gasket repair' and tell you that, while they fixed the leak, everything else could be leaking as well because path of least resistance, etc.
All of while spending thousands upon thousands of dollars for a 'potential temporary fix'
This begs the question, why are automotive engines so shit, and why are shops so shit at fixing them??
Ian Clark
I have the same refrigerant in my car since it came out of the factory 13 years ago. I think some cars just have shit systems.
Tyler Reed
>ecoturd yep its a meme
at least its not a memeboost
Michael Richardson
>All of Which you could do yourself at an auto store for less. They sell freon and dye.
Cars don't use freon, they use r134. And you can't but it at auto stores, the "refrigerant" they sell is propane.
Joseph Taylor
i can assure you rough roads rattle a/c apart after a while
i have a 15, 20 and 30 year old cars systems all shit on me because of bad roads
have a newer 15 year old car now and its stock as a rock ac no problem and another one thats slightly older same age again no problems.
Dominic Clark
I had a hearty kek, however engines are much more complicated and are under many more stresses than an air conditioning system. Also, if you're having your engine repaired, the entire thing is covered under warranty. If your compressor blows after they've replaced your condenser, that's (obviously) not warrantied.
Aiden Thompson
Is humans a meme?
Seems like even though there are entire hospitals dedicated to repairing humans, it still never works quite right once it goes bad the first time - and if you try to DIY, no one really seems to know what the fuck they're talking about, especially on human forums. Threads typically diverge into "uhh yeah just replace everything and hope it works".
If you take it to a hospital, they dye the blood, fill it up, and tell you to come back when it stops working again. Then they replace whatevers leaking, and tell add more dye and tell you that, while they fixed the leak, everything else could be leaking as well because path of least resistance, etc.
All of while spending hundreds upon hundreds of dollars for a (((potential temporary fix))).
This begs the question, why are humans so shit, and why are hospitals so shit at "fixing" them?
Evan Rivera
Answered the question fine. He asked why AC system are shit. Stating reasons he thinks they are. I countered. They're not shit, he's a moron. I'm waiting for his response to prove me wrong.
Commonly called freon. R134a is available at Walmart, autozone, napa advanced auto. I know because I sold and bought through these company for several years.
John Bailey
Are memes a meme?
Seems like even though there are entire websites dedicated to generating memes, they're still not quite right compared to the originals - and if you try to DIY, no one really seems to know what the fuck they're talking about, especially on Veeky Forums. Threads typically diverge into "Uhh yeah use this picture and put words on it"
If ask memers to make memes for you, they take your OC, keep it for 12hours, and tell you to come back when the laughs are no more. Then they change the wording.
All of while spending years upon years of your time for a 'potential temporary meme'
This begs the question, why are new memes so shit, and why are dedicated memeboards so shit at generating them???
Levi Collins
I had several shops tell me to replace the ac condenser it would be upwards of 1000 bucks for the parts and labor on my p71 i used to have.
Shit would cost more than the engine itself was worth. I didnt bother.
Do it yourself. Condensers are usually 4 bolts and 2 lines. You can find a how to quide online. Then just refill your system, or take it to a shop and have it vacuumed and filled. Should be less than $250 for everything.
The fact you can only try to insult me instead of actually responding with intelligible conversation tells me tht on top of your automotive skills being subpar, you are also not very bright.
Elijah Cruz
nah cunt it's just not worth arguing with mentally dull individuals
Jordan Anderson
Neighbour of mine has a 1981 Jag that's still running on its original R12.
Chase Bell
You say as you keep responding with pathetic attempts at insults. Your life must be sad.
Gavin Adams
Install softer suspension, probba solved.
Mason Peterson
ive gone most of this summer without ac and it fucking sucks
specially since i have a fully working supercar just sitting around
Isaiah Watson
But yeah usually so.
Brayden Jones
I fuckin hate that shit too. Call it what it is people, Freon is a brand that was back in the r12 days, there's no such thing now.
Benjamin Ortiz
My 1998 tracker only needed 2 pounds of R134a put in it over the last 18 years. It's got a super slow leak somewhere, but who cares at that rate of loss right?
Noah James
Basically this, they're fairly complicated and a complete overhaul is more than most people want to spend, when they could just fill it up and go most of the summer with a small leak.
Gavin Diaz
air conditioning is a meme in itself
in a perfect state, humanity can live without such frivolous items. weve become,pussies who cant handle some simple heat or dont want to get our stupid faggot hipster shit shirts a little sweaty. i dont use air conditioning because not only does it kill the earth, exploit those who are most vulnerable, but it also shoes that im a better man than the hipster numale cucks who drink starbucks.
Jonathan Ortiz
What they'll do is drain the system of all the AC gas, run a pressure check and then see if it holds a proper pressure. If not they'll put "tracking fluid" or whatever its called into the system to see if it leaks out anywhere along the system. A lot of these fluids also work as sealants, and may often seal shut smaller leaks
Jason Morris
Agree, it's gone on long enough
Cooper Rivera
I.......
This is some raw bait
Nathaniel Mitchell
When I was in HS there was a big guy named David in my class, I used to alternatively call him Pedo-David or Sweat-David. It's you innit?
Josiah Bennett
He can be, for you
Jose Green
Fuck off retard
Gabriel Sullivan
Is repairing a major system in your automobile a meme?
Aaron Anderson
Got him beat with my '78 Pontiac. Of course, it only has 23K miles...
Nicholas Hernandez
You're totally right about the forums. They're fucking useless to a certain extent, nobody knows what the fuck they are talking about and people will usually reply with some vague as shit answer like you said.
Oliver Anderson
Is calling things you don't like a meme, a meme?
Lincoln Martin
Yes.
Fuck you, also:
There are a lot of counter intuitive things about refrigeration systems and having a retard over fill a system with refrigerant and dealing with retards filling their system with excessive amounts of oil, dye, and "stop" leak can get complicated. Small leaks can take an extended time to degrade system performance or leak enough dye to be detected.
In most civilized countries A/C repair shops require certification and expensive refrigerant recovery systems. This gets pretty expensive so you have specialist shops.
In the US a DIY'er can vent to the atmosphere and get by with a manifold set, oil injector, and a vac pump (
Grayson Davis
worked in a shop that did auto A/C and heating exclusively and this user is right. can't tell you how many times i'd hear the manager tell someone "if I fix X, Y will probably go later" customer only wants X fixed and Y shits the bed later.
any system that runs high/low pressure is going to do this unless it's built for the space shuttle.
Jose Collins
venting refrigerant to the atmosphere is highly illegal and will net you prison time