Return of the King

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Who cares, it's gonna be a rebadged BMW so it'll have none of the reliability or overbuilt drivetrain from the previous gens.

Except they out sourced it to BMW, so is it really a Toyota? Or just a BMW with a body kit. This already has played it self out unfavorably for them with Subaru.

>King
Of what, highway pulls and dynos?

>it'll have none of the reliability or overbuilt drivetrain from the previous gens.
Thank god.

the Supra was the king of nothing except pigfat and rice tax

Poopra with BMW drivetrain and Suspension

Yes please

t. american

t. poorfag

>BMW made
>4WD Hybrid with a BMW engine

New NSX 2.0

as expected of a Poopra fan he must resort to memes

its and ugly fat overpriced shitbox

thems the facts

>nuToyota styling with nuBMW driving dynamics

Meh

Please no fake engine noise

>King
>Pigfat expensive GT whose only redeeming quality is that it can take boost

Glad its being made finally but still prefer the mk4
this. makes me sad.there was a rumor of a non hybrid fr base model though. Maybe mazda wont fuck up the rx vision

>Maybe mazda wont fuck up the rx vision

theyre not making it so dont worry

because supras built for handling totally arent a thing

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I hope they do make a non-hybrid base model.
A modern BMW engine could be nice, but I'm dissapointed Toyota didn't go for their own powerplant or something developed with Yamaha.

>looks, price, weight
>accusing anyone of memes

wew lad

I for one like the look of the concept and cant wait to see the final release

Don't let me down toyota

Are you as pigfat as your supra? Maybe you should move out of the UK to a healthy country

I like the current BMW engine in the M2/3/4 because its a twin turbo I6. but has virtually no lag, which is what the stock 2JZ GTE was going for. sucks stock twin turbos are rare as fuck. Oh lawd yamaha v6/v8 would be sick. would be kinda like a new LFA

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>built at magna-steyr
Aw, sheeet. I got a close relative there, cant wait to see it.

Magna Steyr does good work.

Is Mazda the only one that can save driving since the Toyobaru didn't?

return of the shitty batmobile?

Batmobile Supra when?

looks like shit.

>King

its like a pony car without the V8 and torque

i hope they're not gonna make that abomination.

If it looks anything like the concept it's gonna be over six figs.
Why is Japan fucking up so bad with their designs lately?

mazda is based and is the only company that still puts soul in all their products, even the suvs

>a car that won't be made vs a car that will be made

>Only 30% of people ever buy a Mazda again after owning one

Yeah. People think they're great.

literally no one cares

>replies anyway

>implying we'll ever actually get it
I emailed mazda asking about it and this is all I got back.

>If it looks anything like the concept it's gonna be over six figs.
>guessing the price by looking at a concept

Rumors have the price at around $50k, more or less.

Really? That's much more reasonable, and in line with the original A80.

It may actually compete at that price.

>implying the 3KGT wont BTFO the supra

Looks like the R8 from I, Robot.

>implying Nissan and Renault would let Mitsubishi build anything exciting
>implying they wouldn't reallocate 3000GT dev money to an even more piggu fattu GT-$
>implying they'll build a Twingo-based FoRS competitor

>Under the hood, it’ll have a hybrid four-wheel-drive powertrain

Yeah, fuck this shit. Why are you gay retards sperging about the BMW connection and not this?

>V12 Twingish

Laughed hard but also somewhat interested.

Why is Toyota not able to make its own engines now? First the subie engine in the gt86 and now the beemer engine in the poopra.

Who wouldn't want an AWD Supra?

>as expected of a Poopra fan he must resort to memes
Pot, meet kettle.

Me, I don't. I don't want the extra weight that an AWD and hybrid system will add to the car. The Supra formula is RWD, inline-6 with a turbo or two. If you want 6 cylinders, a turbo, and AWD, get a Skyline.

I guarantee Toyota won't be able make anything better than the ATTESA system.

calm your tits, they still might make a non-hybrid base model

read the thread.

Nobody in the thread brought up anything official that would point to that.

stop killing our hopes and dreams satan

Satan pls go.

yeah go settle elsewhere catan.

they're a thing but almost any car can be made to handle well
doesn't make it "the king"

> the suspension is too soft! it feels like an american car

It's just Tsuchiya. The springs are already mighty stiff, he just prefers even stiffer.

> american cars
> kings of suspension
k bro

>"Hey I know, lets just crib the styling from the Gillet Vertigo except make it look like shit!"

>car goes fast
>"fast car"

>Supra goes fast
>"any car can be made to go fast"

>car can handle
>"this car can handle well"

>Supra can handle
>"any car can be made to handle"

I'll never understand these double standards.

Good thing it's not an American car. :^)

That's already plenty ugly, m8.

I honestly consider the LFA a Supra successor, regardless of the price.

If it was in the 60-110K mark I would undoubtedly consider it a supra.

This is the mk5 supra.

Shame about the front end design.

so's your mom

I honestly find it more appealing than the front of the mk4 supra. It's really fucking bland.

>BRZ with Subaru
>This with BMW
Can Toyota make any decent cars without outside help anymore?

I'd rather have bland than tryhard edgy futurism.

Not trying to start a fight, but that's just what I find off-putting about the LFA.

You know, as a nissan fan the supra is my mortal enemy, so i of all people have reason to hate it.
But let me just clarify how fucking retarded you are.

The supra is not pigfat for what it is, it's actually quite light.

Compare it with an aventador, which weighs over 200kg more. Or an audi s5. In the bracket it competes, it's actually quite light.

The supra is NOT some lightweight touge machine, it was never designed for that. It was not a GT car either.
It was a japanese muscle car with a focus on being lightweight and turning.

Which it actually does quite well, with a 51/49 weight distribution. It also lends itself very, very well to upgrades now modern technology is better.

>Carbon Fiber panels shave off a further 200kg, making it weigh only 1300
>Superior single turbo upgrade to minimize lag and get signifigantly more power.
>Very aerodynamic body
>Pulls a fairly high skidpad rating .95g on 90's tires and suspension, again massively improved with aftermarket parts.

It's a tuner legend for a reason, because people buy one, pump in 20-40 grand and it can punch up there with aventadors. It is light, when an aventador weighs over 1700kg and you can easily get a supra down to 1300, while keeping all creature comforts.

I love giving supra fanbois shit as a nissan owner, but you are just fucking dumb as rocks and have never driven one and so don't know what to actually call it out on.

The fanbois of the car are worse than the actual car, it's not a bad machine from an engineering perspective.
Certainly no god machine but you are delusional if you don't think it's pretty damn good.

As someone who idolizes the Supra, I agree with everything you said.

I don't consider there to be an objectively best car, but in terms of Japanese cars of the 90s, the was at least top 5, and those it competed against brought its own character, strengths, and weaknesses.

Keep fighting the good fight against misinformation.

Well when you forget how to make sports cars.....

It was not just top 5, it was second to the skyline GTR.

And as someone on team GTR, i would even say it's better at some things.

But the amazing thing about both cars is that with a bit of tuning, they can compete with modern supercars. And not just compete, they can win.

They're just flat out great canvasses for a tuner, to put it bluntly. Amazing starting points to build upon and make better with modern technology.

>BMW

Into the trash it goes.

I don't have anything against BMW other than shit reliability and some less than stellar models made for yuppies. It pisses me off because I want it to be a Toyota NOT A FUCKING BMW

TOYOTA DESIGN YOUR OWN SPORTS CARS FOR FUCKS SAKE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!

Most Japanese companies died in 2002.

inb4 the S-FR is a Honda

It's ICE powered rear wheels and electric front wheels like LMP1s.

It's hot shit and I'm super hyped for it coming to road cars.

hopefully it can be used fully electric for stuff like tooling around a parking lot or moving around in a garage, and hopefully the motors in the front can be used to help control slides for some awesome doriftu

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I reckon the concern here is it being absurdly overpriced. And not in the "Supras were actually pretty expensive when they were new" way, but the "this is actually a BMW and it'll cost you around the same for an M4" way.

You mean do a modern take on glorious TVR Sagaris.

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Disgusting

>Overpriced
>Still loses to the corvette
I can see it

The MKIV supra actually was slightly more expensive than e36 m3s

This could be really good though. BMW's drivetrains are very good and Lexus's recent chassis and suspension setups are very good. Combining the two might just work.

Why does it look like the batmobile?

>BMW
Garbage

They should have made a TT i6 version for 60k, a TT V8 for 100k and then the LFA

They could have just been different trims of the supra.

They can, they're just too cheap to try. Either that or they're just incredibly generous and want to share the work out.

>Jose F.
The rest of the mail was fine but why in the living fuck would a customer service rep trying to come off as personal and customer oriented abbreviate his last name? Doesn't strike me as professional.

Would actually like to see that. Getting aroused thinking about it.

Because Supra a best.

What the fuck is that concept? It looks like an even more retarded RX-8

Why do you keep talking about the Aventador? It's not a good car.

>$50k
Well I guess it will look nothing like the concept

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