Tempted to pull the trigger on one of these.
Lightly used models. 2013/14 maybe 15.
UK Models, because eurofag.
Any br/o/s have any experience with these cars?
Reliability - good/bad?
Things to look out for when buying one?
Common faults?
Thanks guys.
not a twingo/10
Yes, it's reliable. The engine is bulletproof.
Anyone who says it isn't is just spewing maymays.
Try to get an essesse one.
Friendly reminder that this is the tripfag fiat shill that you're taking advice from
Do you want a dick pic or something?
You seem way too obsessed about me.
Don't. It's a woman's car. There's so many other racey hatches you can get for the same price.
>an Abarth 500 is a woman's car
You seem a bit insecure.
sure, so you get banned and I can live knowing that you'll never post here again
Your presence alone is infuriating
No? The 500 has been marketed as a woman's car from day 1. Only women drive this, and women want this car. If you get this, everybody will think you're probably driving your gf's car, senpai.
Well, get mad bitch.
The Fiat 500 yeah. The Abarth one, not really.
I wouldn't drive a regular 500, but I would hoon the shit out of an Abarth one.
>oh no what will random strangers on the street think of me?!
No, you get the fuck out worthless fucking piece of shit
Alphonse and his bunch are trolling at least
You're serious about liking a fucking 1.3 diesel shitbox
You're brosifine-tier retarded
Are you guys serious? 500's body looks female as fuck. Or nu-male if you prefer. It's the same shit as Beetles before current gen (which looks more presentable as a male's care desu).
The transmission is garbage and I've seen two need transmissions in under 10k miles.
>actually this mad.
>bus rider.
kek.
I'm not saying it doesn't I'm just saying I don't give a fuck about what people I don't know think of me
I'm surprised you still claim you like this car then. I personally find it ugly and would look into something else for a hot hatch.
Pretty good in Forza desu
Get a woman's one, they probably didn't race them but still killed the clutch - so consider repair costs.
I really disliked the interior design though when seeing it IRL at an exhebition.
Materials look low quality and design is poor compared to Mini
I drive the Ultimate Driving Machine like a true enthusiast not a low powered fwd shitbox
When did I even say that I like this car? I don't, I'm just saying that I wouldn't care what other people think
>When did I even say that I like this car? I don't, I'm just saying that I wouldn't care what other people think
Wait a min, are you OP? I thought you wanna buy this car.
No I'm not OP I don't want anything to do with the 500
Oh okay, sorry then user. Got me confused.
No worries friend
Holy fuck, I just noticed that the throttle pedal is shifted towards the driver. That makes it an awesome heel-toe device.
Now I'm considering this car as well, damn
I test drove one and I have legitimate PTSD afterwords
It is the least comfortable car I've ever driven, the chassis feels like poorly stapled together plastic, the A/C has two modes: off, and blowing louder than everything else in the cabin. The seats gave me hemorrhoids. It did not feel safe to turn in. Literally 0 room for luggage or probably even groceries.
However, the boost guage looks cool, the exhaust sounds really nice, and its quick.
>he bought a euro shitbox
>gets smoked by turbo civics
kek
>Veeky Forums ironically recommends a Fix It Again Tony
>especially a memebath
so basically its like every other euro hot hatch except the focus?
LERL
>Now I'm considering this car as well, damn
Oh, never mind, I just chcked on the prices. That's fucking bullshit, can get a Supra for that
>Don't. It's a woman's car.
Irrelevant, if the car is good,who cares?
>There's so many other racey hatches you can get for the same price.
Such as?
>Irrelevant, if the car is good,who cares?
It's not a good car. Besides the exterior design is also a part of the fucking car.
>Such as?
Pretty much every other hatchback produced these days has it's turboed racey variant. Civic, Fiesta, Focus, Golf, Clio to name a few. There's a lot to choose from.
So are miatas. Maybe women just have great taste in fun cars.
Miata isn't a woman's car for fuck's sake. It's been dubbed that but it's not.
Women only have great taste in fun cocks.
Everything else they want to look cute, they are easily intimidated by big cars and always prefer the small ones.
>drive turbo civic
>try turning
>understeer and die
a 500 is much better than your turd.
they look fun and sound good, but you know the old saying
Fixed
Ir
Aepaired
Taily
>Pretty much every other hatchback produced these days has it's turboed racey variant. Civic, Fiesta, Focus, Golf, Clio to name a few. There's a lot to choose from.
OK, so you can get a Type R Civic or a GTI Golf in the same year that OP is looking at for the same price as an Abarth 500?
Things that didnt happen - the post.
Why would you want the same year car?
>its not a good car
Then give examples as to WHY its not a good car.
Just saying its not a good car because its "a wimmins car OMG" is not valid.
The design is shit. The power isn't all that great. And
maybe to limit previous owners, mileage, or just wants a newer car?
You can find low mileage cars, user. That's a weak fucking excuse to want a new car.
oh Veeky Forums don't ever change.
the new car hate maymay
buying newer cars is shit because you don't have many options and still have to spend a bunch of money.
Taking this amount of money and going older will make many more options available.
OK, so.....
In 34 replies or so we have got:
A post about engine reliability.
A post about transmission problems
A post about chassis ride being firm and a/c noise.
A post about materials being cheap feeling.
And a fuck ton of whiney woman's car bullshit
Thanks to the few so far that have actually given info on the car, not on their sexual insecurities.
and those extra options run the risk of being ruined and abused by the time you get to use them and need to replace them. Especially on a car like a 500 that women tend to buy.
>Thanks to the few so far that have actually given info on the car, not on their sexual insecurities.
You always risk getting shit when buying used cars.
I actually bought a Kia over one of these cars they are so bad
>A post about engine reliability.
when Veeky Forums actually admits a engine is a unreliable shitpump i take the warning.
No admission engine was unreliable.
>Yes, it's reliable. The engine is bulletproof.
>Anyone who says it isn't is just spewing maymays.
Are you kidding? Fake unibody SUVs are the latest and greatest in women's cars. All new Ford escapes and GMC Acadias are the womenest of woman cars.
you probably bought a bus pass and drive your mom's Kia.
LOL
>Fake unibody SUVs are the latest and greatest in women's cars.
Usually the husband chooses SUVs for their wives. If you let women decide to either get and SUV or smallest econobox, she will choose the econobox.
Women are fucking cowards
Nah, the MILFs go for SUVs. Econoboxes are for the young girls.
>Range Rover is a shit SUV because it's unibody
>Drives a diesel from a different engine family
>>Yes the petrol engine in that is good, as I also own a (completely unrelated) Fiat
So?
The only thing I hear about the 1.4 Multiair are praises.
It's a really solid high-tuneable engine.
Except the Abarth 500 has a 1.4 FIRE turbojet
The multiair is only available in 0.7 and 0.9 and are both awful engines
>europoors
in the US we get the 1.4 Turbo with Multiair.
>tfw you can buy a whole Dart engine for $1000
>Usually the husband chooses SUVs for their wives
Exactly
It has 20 more horsepower than a cavalier and weighs about the same. What's the point?
lolwut?
It's literally just a different name for a different market.
The T-Jet has Multiair technology.
Also, do you even know what "FIRE" means?
It means Fucking Irate Retraed Eats fiat's shit
>1.4L TURBO
>135hp
What is this, 1996? Fiat engines have always been shit, if reliable. Since they're designed to run with no oil since only women buy most Fiats
Also, totally forgot...
>0.7
>0.9
To my knowledge there's only two displacements for the Twinair: 0.9 and 1.0L.
You're fucking retarded.
That 1.4T with 135hp is for the regular Fiat 500.
The Abarth 500 has 160hp minimum.
>The Abarth 500 has 160hp minimum.
Well that's just false
en.wikipedia.org
>The Abarth 500's 1.4 L engine is equipped with a IHI RHF3-P turbocharger, and is rated at 135 PS (99 kW; 133 hp) at 5500 rpm and 180 N·m (130 lb·ft) (206 N·m (152 lb·ft) in sport mode) torque at 3000 rpm.
Even in SPORT MODE it makes less than 135 real horsepower, stay mad Fiat baby
>muh diesel shitbox
>>>>>>>>>>>hp minimum in the US
>Euro base model (595) makes 145hp
>595 Competizione makes 180hp
>696 Biposto makes 190hp
Just keep sucking mad dick in your Miata.
You suck at this, not literally I mean ;)))))
>ULTRA MEGA SEPECIAL EDITION MAKES MORE
>The actual road legal one makes 145
>American one makes the same, it's just rated differently
>Implies I own a miata because I didn't fall for Fiats lies
I drive a shitbox MG from 15 years ago, with a shitty engine in it. At least I can admit it though, you have your head so far up fiats ass you must either be retarded or getting paid for it
>Muh mega amazing diesel shitbox
>muh special edition cars that cost more than my house
>ULTRA MEGA SEPECIAL EDITION MAKES MORE
>The actual road legal one makes 145
???? Every 500, be it the 595 or 695 is road legal.
Do you even know what you're talking about?
>American one makes the same, it's just rated differently
Actually no. It makes more power because it already comes with the essesse kit installed from the factory as standard.
>Do you even know what you're talking about?
DO YOU? does this 500 look road legal to you?
The American one makes more because it has the 1.4 Multiair and not the 1.4 T-Jet.
>mfw 500's try to race me while I'm driving my FiST
It's so ugly everyone will laugh at you senpai.
Is this bait?
>drives the ugliest subcompact around
>thinks other cars are ugly
The euro 1.4 T-Jet has multiair technology.
The only thing different is that the US spec engine already has the "essesse" kit installed as standard.
The T-Jet has no electrohydraulic valvetrain. It has a more traditional variable timing system.
Multair adds a set of solenoids to the intake valves that adjust valve lift directly. This system adds like 20 HP and requires a different head. The blocks are basically identical, though.
>Gets beat by superior ecoboost
>WELL UR UGLY
>Road legal
Yeah, "road legal"
IIRC, the T-Jet started using Multiair tech on 2007.
Maybe that doesn't apply to the 595.
I do know for sure that the 695 and the Abarth Grande Punto/Punto Evo have multiair.
2/10 Made me reply.
>gets wrecked
>BAIT
lol fiat babies mad as hell
And a very bad bait, tbqh.
You could do better.
>LOOK SOMEONE MODDED A FIAT
>ITS TOTALLY THE FACTORY ONE THOUGH
4/10, made me respond
okay, I see that, it was added in 2010 according to Wikipedia, after the Multair FIRE had already been developed.
I gather then that the Essesse kit is just a factory tune?
It also seems liker the non-MA 1.4 T-Jet is actually still an option on some cars.
I'm not even sure why I am still responding, tho.
>I gather then that the Essesse kit is just a factory tune?
Yeah, pretty much.
A remap, performance exhaust, BMC filter, etc.
>It also seems liker the non-MA 1.4 T-Jet is actually still an option on some cars.
Think so, yeah. I do know Fiat still sells the regular FIRE 1.4 T-Jet (with mechanical vvt) on developing markets.
>A remap, performance exhaust, BMC filter, etc.
Oh, and a larger Garrett turbo too.
>considering a 500
>says a FiST is ugly
Oh the irony.
>FiST ugly
Are you fucking retarded, user?
>can't deal with opinions
Yeah but this kind of opinion makes literally everything you say irrelevant.
For you.
Why ?
>sounds like a fart can with popcorn machine
>everybody think you are gay
>underpowered to competition (FiST, Clio RS (old or new one))
>interior is shit
>Fiat
Don't do it man.
Niece of mine has a 2013 model with 50k on it, heaps of troubles. Had to replace multiair(twinair) ecu recently which was about 1500 eu.
OP here, just wading through the flame war shit to look for some actual advice again.
Thanks so far guys!
thanks for the info, what other issues did it have that you know of?
cool panda
thanks
Honestly the second most fun car I've driven. Almost pulled the trigger on one before, and I'm looking at one again. It's the perfect modern hot hatch, does everything they need to do. Better than the FiST, which I've also driven. Has buckets more character than the Ford.
ayy
the handling is the worst I ever seen
>FiST
Why are Ford model names so shitty that people must resort to shitty acronyms? What's the Focus ST, the FoST?
Which retard is running Ford? Can't they name their cars something cool? Tesla stole the whole "Model {letter}" scheme right from under their big honking noses.
>literally every professional reviewer and people who have driven it (unlike you and many other fags here) praise its handling
>hurr it handles like shit
kys
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