>tfw friend who you asked to do some art editing is far more competent than you realized and can knock out the 4-5 edits necessary for completion
Juan Morris
Almost got done with the writing. Now I just have to find a proof reader. What about you guys?
James Myers
What are the actual EVN success stories? mainly asking how many people there are who really make a living off this. Obviously there's WW and hanako and christine love, and I guess if you count recent kickstarter successes (that haven't actually released their games) there's raithfyre and cuddlebeam, but is that basically it at this point? Did the ACE Academy guys make enough (between the release of the game on steam and their current patreon for their next game), or are they still freelancers and people working on this in their spare time?
Grayson Campbell
Well there is Taos- BWAHAHAHAHAHA I CAN'T GUYS I JUST CAN'T
Matthew Edwards
>ignoring WC they're earning $11k+ a month
Zachary Lee
Did the Moacube guys ever make it? I know they have a lower bar for success, due to living in Poland and needing less money to support themselves, but I wasn't aware if any of their games ever took off in the same way Cinders did.
Nathan Ortiz
Apparently, Solstice didn't do so well.
Personally I found it too cynical for my liking, but it's a pretty polished game overall.
Matthew Nguyen
Putting things together, after I'm done with some commissions I will start doing the writing and art as well.
I will also have to work with the ayy lamaos faces.
Jack Scott
Did sakebento make it?
Christopher Taylor
They're getting a share of a $2million bundle at the moment though iirc
Easton Sullivan
She doesn't release enough games to live off them, I think she has a day job and EVN is a hobby. Don't know for sure though
William Myers
yeah, but devs have said that bundles often pay off cents per sale.
Lincoln Harris
why are the tiddies so small
Lincoln Robinson
why are you such a faggot
Liam Murphy
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Jose Long
most people secure real jobs that pay better. my friend makes 80k a year doing gui and design stuff for mobile games, the job is piss easy compared to the constant annoying hiccups of game development. "making a living" off evn is really only practical when you're used to working for pennies or are okay living in a shithole at age 30.
Liam Thomas
Huh? Chino usually have flatchest, come people were flaming me for giving her tits and now someone want her tits bigger?
Kevin Gomez
>80k a year
is that supposed to be a lot or....
Thomas Sanders
oppai is the will oppai is the way
Aaron Rivera
If you didn't consider that a lot you wouldn't be in this thread desu
Christian Lee
Are they doing 3D gui? C-can I see their portfolio? I want to know what I have to do to be hired.
Gavin Peterson
If anything, I'd imagine vns to be the perfect rich kid's hobby.
Robert Morris
>eyes look like she just had her pupils dilated at the optometrist >nose is a sad comma plonked in the middle of her face >mouth and chin are slowly melting off her skull >that telltale hentai sunburn >whatever's happening to her spine >the indeterminable camera angle
These all stand in the way of what is otherwise a very cleanly rendered drawing. The hair in particular is working well. Sorry if that was a bit harsh, mate.
Carter Cox
>>that telltale hentai sunburn You mean the blush? Looks fine desu
Ryan James
Alright, that one's down to personal taste, I admit.
But I still think it's an overused visual shorthand that's totally divorced from reality and looks more and more absurd the shinier it gets.
Nathan Clark
>that pathetically small ulnar styloid shameful!
Hunter Cooper
>The hair in particular is working well I think it looks a little too stringy, slimy, and gross desu
Brody Roberts
Depends on where it's used imo Face and butt? Yes. Knees and elbows and back and feet and ears etc? Please stahp
Noah Johnson
Is this a viable style for a VN?
Matthew Lewis
for EVN, yes.
Hudson Campbell
where be the tids???
Ian Hernandez
If it's more story focused than romance focused, yeah I guess.
Hunter Reed
Thanks for the input. That's the plan, at least. I'd be doing the whole project by hand, so simplicity is a virtue.
Bentley Allen
I like it. It reminds me a bit of Okami.
Asher Gonzalez
So anyone here doing Lewd jam? How's your progress?
Aiden Green
Already finished. stillborn
Landon Hill
Then upload it.
Wyatt Perez
Depends on the overall aesthetic, I guess. If you get backgrounds to match and the contrast between the sprites and backgrounds is enough to make them "pop" enough from the environment while still feeling relatively "seamless" it could give you a really cool Okami-like aesthetic, which I guess works if you're trying to tell a fantasy or magical realism story about mystical stuff. Other genres, it might feel a little outa place.
Kevin Ortiz
wtf is wrong with her torso
Grayson Myers
bump
Charles Lee
My "success story" involves quite a lot of internal drama lol. But most of it is basically the repetition of:
[A] >"noooo, don't do that thing cuddles, its a bad idea!" >cuddles does the thing >"oh wow, it was actually a really good idea."
or
[B] >"cuddles you should do this" >cuddles asks why >"because trust me." >cuddles disagrees and he explains why with numbers, budgets and calculations. >"no cuddles, just trust me on this one" >cuddles doesn't take argumentum ad verecundiam and eventually does his own thing. >go to [A]
Note that I massively, MASSIVELY appreciate that people critize me, tell me and explain to me where I'm wrong, and tell me how things could be done better. I LOVE and I'm extremely thankful that my backers and people here on /evn/, on youtube, in emails and pms tell me where I've done wrong so that I can improve.
But too often people will say no to things because they're scared, they don't want to leave the area they're familiar with, or because they want to protect their ego. In those cases, you just have to do what's best for the project. Someone else's feelings, biases or self-confidence isn't worth losing a couple grand for.
Logan Carter
this is true, but a bundle totalling that high is still bound to be worth a nice chunk. i have no idea what his share is, but I'd still assume he'd get at least $40k out of it? which isn't massive wealth, but is still a 'live off this for a while' figure
Luke Carter
Sounds like it's hard to work with you, since you care only about your own opinion.
Eli Evans
(i'm saying 'at least' because I know people have gotten at least that much out of bundles that reached only six figures, not seven, so even if his share is tiny....)
Nathan Davis
some make more than 80k a year in VNs but you won't, sorry
Justin White
who the fuck refers to themselves in such a way ego much?
Lincoln Young
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Parker Green
Well he's got a point that you can't slavishly follow every suggestion, sometimes suggestions are wrong
Mason Nguyen
lol at the people who were expressing an interest in working with you
Lucas Thomas
Sure, but that applies to your suggestions/decisions too.
Gavin Hughes
Well, yes, obviously. The person with the creative vision may be hopelessly wrong, and sometimes projects fail.
If you're trying to achieve a 'safe bet', you want a lot of focus group work, rather than any one person's single opinion of what would be cool.
If you're trying to achieve an artistic vision, the person with the central cool idea should have the final say, and should accept the consequences if their cool idea turns out to be hated by the public.
Sebastian Brooks
hey guys I posted here a few months back () and I was told i sucked ass. Is there any hope regarding my art?
Asher Torres
shade it? face readjustments needed imo looks like a weird anime boondocks.
Lincoln Murphy
remove nazi symbols.
Chase Cook
i was going for a flat kind of look but i guess i should put in a little more effort (other people told me that as well). what do you mean by "looks like boondocks" though?
the controversy caused by having nazi anime girls is precisely why I'm putting them in. no publicity is bad publicity, right? plus, I'll put in a disclaimer about it being satire etc.
Ryan Morales
>no publicity is bad publicity, right? only literal retards think that
Sebastian Barnes
I've been thinking about writing a VN for quite some time now.
Is Ren'py the engine to go, lads?
Cameron James
Did you use a tablet? You should use the stabilizer. Also, bone up on color theory.
Guaranteed replies
Hunter Garcia
They have the right idea. No publicity is, well, no publicity. And that is ALWAYS worse than publicity when it comes to interest and sales. Even if you're a terrible human being and what you've created is garbage.
Now whether or not hammer and sickle irisis are a good way of achieving publicity, that's another matter entirely.
Adam Miller
No, it's retards that think ALL publicity is good publicity. No publicity is definitely bad.
Angel Kelly
Yep :^) Btw, we are girls :3
Charles Kelly
Last I checked my clitoris was at least 7 inches and had a pair of testicles attached to the base. Also, I have hair growing on my nipples. Does this make me a man?
Zachary Collins
Sound like normal /evn/ female
Charles Gutierrez
at least you've made something, upload anyway under a pseudonym or something
Ian Perez
>make a joke about literal retards >/evn/ acts like retards by taking a sentence literally instead of the actual meaning anyone who isn't a 3rd worlder would know sasuga
Only if you can't code.
Ian Hernandez
People who can't code whine that RenPy is too hard.
Colton Edwards
TyranoBuilder is the answer.
Xavier Ward
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Isaac Thompson
It's alright, I do agree that the eyes are weird, probably because I was trying to paint them like the original instead of doing it the way I do.
Maybe I shouldn't do that with the chin, I will try something different next time.
Eh? Really?
Hunter Russell
I am sure you will get more help at
Tyler Walker
I wouldn't describe it as slimy, but the strands + amount of highlights makes it look slippery. As if you were going for a wet look, but didn't actually draw it wet.
Asher Thomas
Is it better than Renpy?
Luis Harris
What game?
Matthew Cook
Characters look fine but what the heck is going on with the background?
Nathaniel Martin
For some reason I don't want to go there.
I wasn't trying to make it look wet, some other artist told me I should fill parts with shades and highlights since leaving parts without them would look empty.
Austin Roberts
>like the original don't tell me you trace shitty animu drawings for your own animu drawings, that's basically copying other people's mistakes
Xavier Lewis
Yes, in every aspect, plus you don't need to know how to code, it has all tools you would ever need to create Visual Novel, and even more.
Christian Roberts
Of course not, which is why I failed on making them look like the original and how the hell can you trace eye colors when it have multiple layers?
Austin Kelly
I'll give it a shot when I get a few things ready.
Michael Nelson
he's either a shill or a funny jokester, tyrano is a mess, customization is severely restricted, the only thing it has going for it is live2d sdk but who cares if the rest of your VN will look like vomit
Jaxson Collins
Go away Pytom.
Christopher Watson
One of these days I'm gonna draw a character and call her Ayaya Lamao.
Owen Wright
I'll experiment with both and see which one works better.
Jose Gomez
up
Joseph Bell
Why is nobody else posting their ayys?
Gabriel Butler
>Is it better than Renpy? Well, 99% of the games released with it are completely broken, crash randomly, can't even manage load/save properly.
But it costs money and it allows you to integrate a better animation tool that you don't know how to use anyway, so it's definitely better.
Carter Turner
>99% I wonder which one is 1% that werks?
Lucas Perry
The ones written by the people who actually knew how to code, unlike the target audience, and could debug their problems. I assume.
Sebastian Barnes
>the ones the ONE Name it!
Michael Collins
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Ethan Howard
3:4 Intergalactic High School goodness.
Caleb Roberts
ded
Leo Powell
Anyone know of any good sci-fi background artists that are looking for a little bit of work? I need to get a pair of backgrounds done.
John Bell
>good background artists >needing to look for work lol
Jace Reyes
Room for improvement, but it looks bretty gud senpai
Christopher Sanders
>>make a joke about literal retards >only literal retards think that >>>>>>>>>>joke
Liam Martinez
well, that's a given. thanks for stroking my ego brohai
yeah I did, but it's tiny as fuck, so I'm putting off making actual sprites until the day when I get a larger tablet.
well, you're not wrong (at least in this case)
Ryder Ross
Iffy gradient hair, linework feels pretty thin and a little wobbly around the face, bangs or whatever they are need work, inconsistent shading/detailing across the whole.