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How do I Nurnberg? It's overgrown Konigsberg that gets even worse MM. I can't do shit against t8. 150mm AP is too weak at that tier and HE is garbage. Halp. pls.
Hunter Morris
>Just because a shell is able to pen the flimsy bow plating doesn't mean it pens the citadel. But they will pen the citadel, that's my point. With this change, now both 46cm and 16" guns have the penetration to punch straight through an enemy BB's citadel no matter the angling at close range.
>And yes, WG wants BBs to actually be able to pen eaaaaaaaach other at short range. >This is an effort to stop BBs from sittign bow-on at 20 km all game. And that's the fundamental problem with this change, it's supposed to be about moving BBs from the back of the map towards the front (which I like the idea of), but it does nothing but punish them for getting in to closer ranges. They will still stay at the back because it's not just resistance to BB AP penetrations that keep them there, and the reasons for staying there are all still present.
Jeremiah Perry
What is stronger? Stalinium shells guided by Father of Nation Stalinium armor blessed by Him
Jaxson Russell
>float around the map just doing normal cruiser things with HE >suddenly 155k damage this bote is of great balance.
Jacob Bell
>Ognevoi >T8 match >literally the only T6 on my team >one other T7 >rest are T8s >Neighbors >standard battle >Get detonated by Tirpitz secondaries 5 min into the match i have seen the face of Cancer
Matthew Cruz
>DD armor getting nerfed in 5.12 so secondaries can hurt them better How will this effect DD vs DD combat considering secondaries are usually DD sized armaments? Will this just buff RU DDs more?
Gavin Lopez
>more KM BB buffs what the fuck are those fucking slavs doing?
Landon Morgan
DDs will get nerfed too
mandatory mention to yamato nerf
Jayden Gonzalez
>tfw Bisco will be bow lolpenned by anything while she cannot lolpen enemy BB
Logan Wilson
Merkel is sucking Putin's cock.
Grayson Sanchez
>But they will pen the citadel, that's my point. With this change, now both 46cm and 16" guns have the penetration to punch straight through an enemy BB's citadel no matter the angling at close range. That is wrong. They will not magically gain any penetration ability, and in fact you can now angle your actual citadel against the enemy fire instead of simply pointing your bow at them becasue lolautobounce on bow plating.
Have you even looked at the armor models? Or do you think that a shell that pens the bow plating then magically gets to pen the citadel because it is now through the bow plating?
>And that's the fundamental problem with this change, it's supposed to be about moving BBs from the back of the map towards the front (which I like the idea of), but it does nothing but punish them for getting in to closer ranges. They will still stay at the back because it's not just resistance to BB AP penetrations that keep them there, and the reasons for staying there are all still present. Like Isaid before, I can't begin to predict if this will work. The only solution to this (reward tanking, remove the extreme pricetag from taking damage) will not be implemented because WG apparently wants everyone to play one game of lowtier farming for one game of t10.
Adam Sanders
They stated it was intended to make Akizuki's shitty HE actually have some effect on other DDs so it didn't have to resort to using AP against them. Somehow that works out as a blanket DD nerf rather than just buffing Akizuki.
Hunter Ross
AFT only viable 4pt capt skill for Dunkek?
Gavin Ward
WHERE ARE THE DRAGON FLAGS YOU FUCKING CUNTS
Brandon Clark
They already have decent AA, great secondaries, cannot be citadeled at close range. Does this mean that KM BBs will be the brawling easy mode BBs that get spotting exp and can do damage while killing anything that gets close?
Caleb Scott
if you regularly die to KM secondaries in your DD, you are doing it wrong
Jose White
>They already have decent AA
Stop shitposting Anusmati.
James Carter
Will that not actually make all the AP from secondaries overpen instead of dealing damage?
Anthony Powell
>Or do you think that a shell that pens the bow plating then magically gets to pen the citadel because it is now through the bow plating? Internal armor doesn't get bounces So if you have something like 400 mm of citadel armor, at 45 degrees to enemy, you will get penned hard by Tomato with her 1000mm or so of penetration
Jason Foster
DE isn't bad either given it gets it to nearly 40% fire chance.
Adam Edwards
>fixing a problem by creating a bigger problem sounds pretty soviet to me
KM BBs have been Easy mode for quite some time
its a lot easier to die to KM BB secondaries then it is to USN BB secondaries, that's for damn sure
John Phillips
No, because they just die to normal AP pens already. Rmoving thier ability to mitigate some of that damage by moving towards the enemy will turn them into XP pinatas for all the 16" armed ships.
Also, you can citpen German BBs at pretty much any range with those 16" and above guns anyway
Jordan Morales
check em
Evan Young
>He has less than 100 million credits laughing_dragons.png.
Jace Allen
I do spam HE and get fires, just thinking of improving the AA but it has meh secondaries which are better at the back.
Xavier Morris
>That is wrong. They will not magically gain any penetration ability, and in fact you can now angle your actual citadel against the enemy fire instead of simply pointing your bow at them becasue lolautobounce on bow plating. They already have the penetration to get through the frontal armor, it's the angled bow armor that protects from this happening currently. Someone else already did the math, for this change, in something like a Montana there will be literally no way to angle so that you can really resist close range BB AP in another high tier BB. reddit.com/r/WorldOfWarships/comments/52pzcx/i_ran_the_numbers_why_i_dont_like_the_28mm_bow/ >This means that, not only a yamato will be able to citadel me below 10km, but also every Iowa/montana and german BBs. >If I angle slighly more towards the enemy ship, my frontal citadel armor will become more vulnerable and it'll be easier to citadel me from the front. If i turn away from the enemy ship, my lateral armor will get weaker, and thus being easier to citadel. >This means that, every enemy battleship closer than 10km will be able to take a considerable amount of my health points no matter how I angle my ship. Does this sound like something that's going to encourage BBs to move into closer ranges?
Brandon Perez
Checked.
Ian Cook
AFT does seem to be the better option given Dunkek's miserable AA. Plus the secondaries are actually good against cruisers and DDs if you can get all three quads on target.
Andrew Turner
autism
Brody Perry
Reminder WG is refusing to give out dragon flags.
They're going to reduce the amount of flags we should originally be getting.
my kutuzov and another one bounced AP off eachother for like 5 minutes we both lol'd in chat and then went away to kill other things
Leo Richardson
I don't want to be a WG apologist, but you're overreacting. There's nothing that says the number of flags is being reduced, and it's still the 19th. The announcement itself says AFTER the 19th.
So it may actually take even longer to get the flags, but so far there's nothing pointing to wrongdoing by WG.
Nicholas Gutierrez
yes, likely so
>akizuki added >its 100mm guns cant damage regular DDs 15mm armor even tho it should have 17mm penetration >rather that to fix the HE pen, all armor nerfed across all DDs >even with nerf many RU DDs have ~20mm armor, still greatly reducing DD HE damage >all DDs will be even easier plowned by secondary build BBs
but hey wanna see whats real fucking funny on this?
>HE on bow on would work if the fucking HE explosion penetration would also normalize like how it should >so instead of making HE and AP both equally useful we rely on fires to fix HE >that still needs to do damage to set things on fire >so we cant really do HE damage on bows and the fires from BB is fucking useless compared to the alpha damage they are supposed to do
its like a snowball of bad decisions
Jordan Carter
Niko, hand over the flags please
Ryan Gonzalez
>heh could be tomorrow, could be next week
Julian Reed
i cant update the game
whats going on
i needed like 4 more games and im on this cant update for 2 hours.
Brayden Bennett
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Kayden Hernandez
Hand over the flags and no one gets hurt, Niko
Jace Nguyen
The flags or else Niko
Brody James
Goodbye sides
Jonathan Morales
Yamato finally gets permanent camouflage!
And it's still the same ugly puke-colored IJN bullshit.
Luke Bell
Hmmm. Time to change crosshairs, I guess.
How many doubloons does it cost?
Zachary Powell
I 100% would have bought it had it not been puke green.
Nicholas Howard
That's the type 2 camo you retard
David Kelly
Seriously fuck WG and their IJN camo choices.
Landon Sullivan
>its not mushashi SHAMEFUR DISPRAY
Brayden Evans
If of historical tovarisch!
Cameron Bennett
Fucking rusniggers even fuck up the yamato's permanent camo
What's with all the terrible decisions lately? Did someone drop WG on its head?
Jack Ortiz
>wanting to get fucked by Haks
Jeremiah Ward
That is NOT a permanent camo you fuckheads, it's the type 2 credit camo.
Luis Rogers
Blame the original fuckhead who called it permanent camo, then.
Robert Green
To be honest I have no idea what any of the camos look like anymore. I've had the camo remover on for so long that I've forgotten everything except the disgusting puke green.
William Moore
R-rude
Daniel Hall
Post proofs.
Because all of the IJN credit camos are either splotches or blocks. Not wavy waves.
Kevin Jones
>wake up >login >no flags
Michael Lopez
>terrible decisions >lately Do you consider 'everything after ca. December 2014' to be 'lately'
Aiden Lopez
videogames were a mistake desu
David Morales
but vidyagaems gave us boatfus
also, if you look at it like that, everything after we left the oceans was a mistake
Bentley Hall
>everything after we left the oceans was a mistake T-That's not true!
Andrew Barnes
)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Chase Collins
existence was a mistake but boatfus make it all okay
Ayden Hill
>existence was a mistake look at the depressed, carbon-based fleshbags look at them and laugh
also, you're boatfu let all kinds of different seamen into her citadel
Justin Smith
>that pic I always see that initially has a FABULOUS Chain Chomp with purple lipstick.
:3
Parker Peterson
they all did user, I love her despite her faults
Robert Clark
Joke's on you, my boatfu was never completed and is thus forever pure.
Nathan Martin
>playing Indy because im a Masochist >T7 game >teammate is a Hiryu >enemies are a Saipan and a Ryujo >all of our planes get decimated in the first 5 min fucking broken
Logan Lee
Limit CVs to one per side at all tiers.
Juan Rivera
What is it? Lexington-class? Graf Zeppelin? I was just in that game on your team One of you CVs just drove up the middle for some reason
Jack Kelly
But How Can You be Real if Your Boatfu isn't Real?
Julian Bennett
>Carrier Mission >Place in your team's top five (5) XP earners in a single PvP Battle.
>Thanks to how carriers and exp work this is actually harder to do than any other class
Ayden Clark
how else was i going to get points? let the Saipan kill all my squads?
Brody Jones
I'm not knocking it, I didn't do well either
I was in the Bayern with the Gneisenau pretty much holding down the right side by ourselves. Finished with 58k damage and no kills
Robert Cox
the same fucking carrier MM happened a second time in a row. fuck this game CVs are broken af
Hudson Morales
Hotel, literally the deadest
Isaiah Walker
That look like some enlarged hairy dick.
Thomas Richardson
simply epic
Aiden Jenkins
>What is it? CA Ibuki
Bentley Myers
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Leo Morales
Good taste Still can't decide whether I like the look of the Ibuki or Zao more All of the Jap CAs are great looking botes desu.
James Gray
Where is that picture taken?
Jonathan Rogers
wtf why is the top rangefinder part of the armor model on the aft GFCS but not the main?
Dominic Perry
Yamato Museum in Kure I think I could be wrong though
Nicholas Ross
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Jeremiah Sullivan
>divving with Lisp_Chan
LMAOing at ur life dude
Aiden Ortiz
it is, easy to spot on google maps
Samuel Johnson
You're right about the location
Easton Ward
Added to my list of places to visit. Thanks!
Jose Morales
Hotel not so qt after getting rammed by loads of torpedoes.
Christopher White
>tfw too poor to visit it any time in the near future admittedly it's probably my own fault for spending all of my dosh on premium ships and models
Logan Cooper
>The changes above have been designed based on the analysis of real-word data >real-word data
Jacob Turner
Jake you embarrass us Koreans you fucking nigger I bet you are half Ch*nk or N*p. Why do you like N*ps so much?
I bet you too support the name "sea of J*pshit" when it should be East Sea of Korea. Traitorous scum don't belong here
Lucas Green
>tfw there are people who arent white unironicly >theyre in this very admiral