So I'm doing an Arcane focused HLMS. Do I HAVE to go 25STR/50ARC, or can I sit at base STR? What is the reason for going 25/50 instead of base/50? I never understood this.
Oliver Martin
does the fightclub still happen regularly? I might drop in tonight to check out the pvp in this game
Chase Price
it happens every saturday night as it has for a long time and says two posts above you in the op champ
William Gonzalez
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Justin Scott
Yep, but it's only on Saturdays, although you can start an impromptu if you want
Cameron Nguyen
oh mb didnt see the >saturday
Elijah Moore
> What is the reason for going 25/50 instead of base/50? I never understood this.
Because HMS is a STR/SKL// ARC weapon, not a pure Arc weapon. Most of the melee swing damage comes from STR/SKL (Str has better scaling though) and only a fraction comes from Arc, but the moonbeams and a few special attacks are pure/mostly arcane. To fully realise the weapon you need 25/25/50 (or ideally 50/50/50) but it's not possible on a 98 build.
# > explain Cold Abyssals
Scaling gems boost scaling, not saturation.
So without gems it's:
[100] + [100 * 1.00 * 0.85]
With +65 ARC scaling it becomes
[100] + [100 * 1.65 * 0.85]
Justin Lee
Oh, shit, right. I'm retarded. Thanks for all the help.
Daniel Young
Is the piercing rifle good for ANYTHING? Does it have a longer range or something?
Bentley Williams
Single shot like pistols except pistols lose a lot of damage the farther the shot, the rifle has almost no damage fall off Piercing rifle also pierces through enemies completely, it can hit as many fags that are in the line of fire And despite what the description implies, it can still be used for parries, you'll just have a little bit harder of a time with the longer recoil animation
It does about the same damage as an evelyn, and since the evelyn has a lot less recoil you're better off using that more of the time, the rifle is more situational But it looks hella baller too
Kayden Barnes
As a level 50 Arcane master race build, should I bother with the Kos Parasite?
It looks so slow and sluggish (no pun intended).
Leo Howard
It is a little slow but a dash attack spamming noodle user is one of the most annoying things because of the ridiculous range on those noodles They just have retardedly good range, and the nuke L2 helps a lot
Luke Wright
>implying anyone reads the OP, ever
Might as well make an ASCII cock and balls or something tbqhwy.
Also, should I bother with the triangular gems one or is the normal one (crescent moon) good enough?
Christian Flores
Serious question: if I started that build, I could kill Amelia by BL30. Would there be anons willing to baby me through Ludwig and Maria so I could get Rakuyo ASAP? Probably around BL 40-something?
Angel Garcia
I'd help out. Low-level DLC coop is fun.
Nathaniel Lee
It's slow and the damage is probably only 50% of at most 75% of the damage you could get from a Ludgwigs Sword or a Moonlight Sword, unless you have some beast runes.
I'd say it's only worth it if you are doing a cosplay playthrough or if you are at NG+ with amazing tier runes.
Leo Morgan
Nah, go for uncanny or lost, a triangle for it is too good to not have
Justin Wilson
I'm working on the logistics of getting the Rakuyo out of the well. To get Shaman Bone Blades I either have to kill HMPH or farm a brainsucker. Any idea if the one behind Iosefka's Clinic can drop them?
Brody Barnes
Yeah it drops them
Carter Torres
Any brainsucker can drop one, but it's apparently rare. You should be able to summon for the well though, right? I've never tried.
Joseph Green
Sweet. Now I just have to resign myself to playing the entire game over again.
You can, but, I'd like to do as much of the work on my own as possible.
Tyler Sanders
In Mergo's tower, I just remembered a hidden area from my first playthrough where you jump off an elevator midway, it's like right after Micolash. What's down there, item-wise? I remember those horrible brain enemies but not the items.
Adam Reyes
New game +++ BL 207 Ringing on Laurence.
Nolan Sullivan
An 18% physical droplet and a blood rock. Pretty valuable stuff.
Julian Roberts
Anybody wanna help me out on Laurence. Ive always had trouble fighting the cleric demon and this dude cranks it up to x10.
I use cane and blade of Mercy. My pass is mark if anybody wants to help
Bentley Campbell
>HMPH I'm probably a complete retard but what is this? I've seen the abbreviation a few times on here now.
Also doesn't the insight shop have shaman bone blades?
Nathaniel Garcia
Pthumerian Descendant, coined after his signature "HMPH"
Insight shop sells them, but only after killing Central Pthumeru Descendant.
Brandon Bailey
Oh fuck that's right, I can picture it all in my head now. Guess it's time to steel my scrotum for some brainy guys then.
Liam Rodriguez
BL?
The key to Laurence is "dodge left". 90% of his attacks and his entire second phase can be trivialized by dodging perpendicularly left of him.
"Hmph" is the onomatopoeia of the grunt Pthumerian Descendant makes when he attacks, so most anons have taken to calling him HMPH.
Jeremiah Parker
>No password
Guess you don't want help after all.
Aiden Wood
85, he's the last dude I gotta fight before I take on orphan of kos.
Evan Nguyen
>perpendicularly left of him laterally* left. Big difference.
Landon Morris
Kek I guess I'm not as retarded as I was afraid I might be. Would never have figured that one out.
Adam Hughes
Does anyone know where I can find Rating 17 of Tempering Damp Blood Gems?
And what's the difference between gem rating and gem tier?
Jaxon Anderson
I bet Laurence is a serious fucking cunt on NG+++
Cameron Lewis
oh sorry forgot
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Benjamin Brown
I'll tag along
Jayden Gray
>Invading in Base Loft >Find a guy with Saw Cleaver chilling on the stairs beneath the dogbird cage >Never attacks, hardly moves, dogbird pecks at him and he heals when he gets low >Three times >Let's himself die
Levi Richardson
How high do I need to get my 'tinge before guns start being useful for anything other than parrying?
Camden Ortiz
Shit like this is why I have to just quit playing for plural months.
Parker Clark
>And what's the difference between gem rating and gem tier? Tier is a looser summary of the Gem's strength. I think each tier can having something thing like three-four different Gem Ratings. Like, tier (6) can include Rating 17-20 IIRC.
Cameron Cook
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Jack Reyes
>thinking you could just run past her Come on, user. Half of this shit is just you falling for your own stupidity.
Josiah Sullivan
Anybody?
Juan Wood
That little rape hallway holds some fond memories for me.
I wonder how many PS4 controllers its cost.
Nathan Diaz
Thanks guys, I really appreciated, Laurence was a pain in the ass
That Arcane spam was glorious.
Caleb Myers
I'll come
Luke Bell
Thanks man, I'll be here near the fog gate.
Brayden Davis
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Zachary Reyes
Hey thanks blaze, god I was useless during that fight. You pretty much did it for me.
Thomas Morgan
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Hunter Long
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Owen Sullivan
Anybody?
Blake Nelson
People have done gun-only runs of the entire game. You just need to learn to use blood bullets a lot. If you get your gun to +3/+6/+9 as a priority, then it will be viable with whatever BLT is naturally aquirable at any given point in the game.
Have the Reiterpallache as your main weapon to parry, then use a stronger gun (buffed with BMA) to shoot them instead of visceral'ing. Super high damage.
Hudson Roberts
As far as I'm concerned too much to be worth the levels if you're not using bloodletter or chikage
Kevin King
He ain't asking about a no-gun run.
Even at Noble Scion's starting 14 blt they can do noticeable damage to some lower-health enemies. Once you get the Evelyn at 18 blt, it'll only be doing more.
Logan Carter
Anybody wanna help a poor fuck clear out Hemwick? It's so boring going by myself and pooping on witches. Password is lvl20
Sebastian Murphy
> He ain't asking about a no-gun run
And I want talking about a no-gun run either....
I said people have beaten the game with ONLY guns, so guns obviously can be viable for damage right from the start. Just keep it upgraded and level BLT as you would level STR on a melee character.
Jose Cooper
Yeah sorry, I meant to say gun-only run. And yes, a BLT is completely viable.
Colton Clark
Nevermind on Hemwick, cleared it.
Michael Nguyen
I don't like Mergo's Wet Nurse. It's an easy boss, and I KNOW it's an easy boss, but I still manage to find ways to die. Anyone else know that feel?
Asher Robinson
If I eat my umbilical cords, then die to Gehrman, I'm not fucked on my ending am I?
Owen Brown
Once they're eaten, they're eaten, you can die as much as you want to Gehrman or MP.
Alexander Murphy
I figured surely kek but saved online anyway.
Alexander Richardson
Kos Parasite is objectively the best weapon.
Angel Garcia
>TFW an alcoholic bargain bin Ben Franklin will never drunk stream a fight club again in our time
Tyler Brooks
abuse the dash+r1 attacks in both forms. For some reason they come out really fast, and go an absurd distance, and the untransformed one hits multiple times.
Brandon Morgan
I could use some help with Logarius ringing at the fog pass is kosm if anyone is interested.
Aaron Gutierrez
are there any happy endings in this game?
after gascoigne's daughter and arianna I'm feeling a little down
that nun just sits in the corner of the chapel giggling to herself all day
Christopher Torres
Nah m8 whole game is pretty grim tbqh
Owen Campbell
Grabby Grannies have to be one of the most unintentionally scary things in the game. Nothing sneaks up on me quite like they do.
Lincoln Richardson
Nope, it's a big Gothic tragedy turned up to 11, madness, disaster and death are the deal of the day.
I'd say maybe the player character actually gets a good deal in one ending, but that's absolutely it.
Carter Rivera
Thank Logarius always manages to give me hell unless I can get super lucky chaining vicerals for all of phase two
Colton Jones
No problem. Logarius has become strangely fun after cooping him so much.
Noah Williams
I feel you man. He's definitely one of the game's hardest bosses to me.
Jonathan Carter
I just opened the Old Yharnam shortcut and I already need a break. Man I've played too much of this game lately.
Run's starting off well, at least.
Michael Lee
One of the big problems for me is that I usually want to do him a fairly low levels so I can get the wheel or chikage on a builds that use them
Jose Gray
I just fought him at BL90 and he put up more of a fight than Ludwig did. Of course, I used a Beast Blood Pellet and a Fire a Paper on Ludwig, but still.
I hate Logarius so much.
Jaxon Young
I was over leveled when I fought him the first time and it still took me forever.
Matthew Edwards
whoa you killed the werewolf at the start with a backstab????? fucking incredible
Brayden Cruz
Wtf Moon Presence has an attack that brings you to 1hp and disables your healing? I thought he was supposed to be easy, goddamn.
Connor Perez
My first time was on a pure blt build at about level 35 with only really vit leveled, after about 20-30 tries I managed to get the visceral timing down and get him solo and haven't ever managed to do him solo since.
Zachary Harris
That's actually two attacks - the eye beam thing brings you down to 1hp, the bloodfall thing disables healing and lasts for what seems a pretty long time.
Andrew Sanders
Dude I know. I even beat Cleric Beast on my first try. Fuckin' pro, yo.
Adam Ramirez
Kek I finally got one of my best friends to start this game and it took him like a dozen tries to kill the Cleric Beast. I really didn't think things were looking too good for him but then he beat Gascoigne on his second try.
Benjamin Gonzalez
Nice. Gascoigne slapped my shit once this run, and I was even using the tombstone exploit. Easy to forget how hard his transformed axe hits. Then again I've never really gotten gud at fighting him.
Oliver Carter
It got quiet in here. Bump?
Sebastian Garcia
first time playing through the game, chose the sunrise ending and didnt realize it would jump straight to NG unlike dark souls.
I missed a lot of bosses and the DLC, so it'll be fun playing through it a second time!
what are you up to?
Brandon Morris
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Grayson Rogers
So I noticed in a few of the things in the op that some ideal gem setups included scaling gems for pure arc conversions and pure phys with high str why is the same not true for skl or blt? or is it?
Gavin Carter
So I'm on my third play through and still never figured out where two doors open from. Can anyone help?
1. Immediately after exiting Iosefka's Clinic, to the right is a gate that says Closed By a Device. Never found this.
2. In the Cathedral Ward, from where you find the Monocular, head right, and past the Church Giant there are stairs down to a room full of Vases and a long hallway with a chest at the end. Directly to the left of the chest is a door that simply says Closed when trying to open it. Never found where this opens from.
Any help??
Brody Morales
first one is accessed through a hidden area in the Forbidden Woods, look for some Dog Cages and your in the right area, eventually if you find the path it'll loop you back to Iosefka's Clinic behind that gate and you'll be able to open it
second one as far as I know never opens, is probably a shortcut that never got implemented in the final product for one reason or another(just like how there was originally going to be a door between the Great Bridge and another section of the game, and how that pit behind the Central Yharnam Boar was probably originally going to be an Elevator shortcut between CY and the Church of The Good Chalice)
Adam Bailey
1 is opened by taking the path in the Forbidden Woods back to the Clinic. You come out in the graveyard there and can pull a lever to open the door.
2 leads to the Great Bridge where you fight the Cleric Beast, and cannot be opened by any means. Cut content, I believe.
Brandon Cox
the dc is going to be a real wake up call for you on ng+
Im just killing people in menenenesis
Evan Martinez
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Cooper Watson
>why is the same not true for skl or blt? Skl has no +Scaling AFIK, and Bloodting's tops out in the 20s, making it useless.
Juan Barnes
The only Scaling gems worth using are Heavy (STR) and Cold (ARC) scaling gems that come from Headless Bloodletting Beast and Pthumurian Elder since they give +65 scaling. Unfortunately there is no Layer 3 boss that drops Warm or Sharp gems, so the best you can get is +25 (or something) scaling which is outclassed by % gems.