/hsg/

because it's absolutely balanced to destroy my nine drop with only 4 mana + adding a 3/3 to the board

>he only took 1 mana to destroy my 9 mana minion! waaaah
>my 9 mana minion that deals 15 damage waaaaah
>nerfs when blizz???

Will I get anywhere without paying if I start playing again when all I have is a hunter deck from before any expansion?

>Will I get anywhere without paying if I start playing again when all I have is a hunter deck from before any expansion?
you'll get to rank 20

Okay.

What's the best Legendary to craft?

Justicar or Sylvanas or someone else?

You'll barely hit 25

Blizzard does not release cards to promote balance each expansion. They make archetypes internally then release those cards over several expansions (e.g. dragon synergy decks, beast druid, thief rogue). This forces you to get all the adventure wings or buy more packs if you want to make a deck.

The idea that they are making cards for the next expac right now to combat current complaints is retarded.

Sylvanas if you don't already have her.

I copied one of the legend ranked aggro shaman lists but clearly, I am not good enough at the game to win with such a complex deck.

How much more dust do you need for a full collection /hsg/?

>Feral Spirit

Nah bro

the effect the minion has is irrelevant my man. what would you prefer me to say, malygos? ysera?
you used your entire turn to play a minion that gets sniped for 1 mana

It depends on what you play.
Sylvanas is seeing a lot of use right now, but Yogg is causing unending amounts of butthurt.
Justicar is really only used in control warrior and fatigue priest (if there's any left)

Post that malchezaar healadin list and the ranks you're playing it at please.

It's not broken, it's been around forever and many shaman decks don't run any copies.
It's like Gorehowl, it only gets complaints because thrall is running rampant on ladder right now and people are salty as fuck.

how are those shamans not raping your ass before turn 10 when you top deck huge leggos instead of removal and stalls?

I'm tempted by Yogg. I guess I was thinking of Justicar because my heart sinks every time I see it played.

sylvanas, rag, and thalnos i would say are the trinity of useful and versatile legendaries that are always gonna be useful because they're in standard. justicar is good but really only used in fedora warrior.

>the effect the minion has is irrelevant my man
But that's wrong.
Using your entire turn to play something is the entire point of the minion, you're going all in on a minion that brings a lot to the game, if they can't answer it they lose.
Execute is something they'll hold onto for the entire game to get rid of your end game, so you have to force it out of them by being aggressive without overextending.
If he happened to answer every single thing you played, that just means he drew better than you or you weren't playing properly.
No matter what people on /hsg/ say, dumping your hand onto the field and going face isn't always the right move, especially when there's a chance they could be running two brawls.

>Mage plays like absolute fucking ass
>Still wins because she can toss endless reams of burn at my face

This game's fun.

did you write down all of this manually?

why retire when you can gift somebody free wins? join the games and concede senpai

Who EU here? Kaiba1488 #2995

>tfw have a golden counterspell
never dusting that desu

ya, the names of everything I'm missing is there as well if you hover over a box.

a shit ton
also 33200 for epics and some change for a handful of rares and commons

how are blizzard thinking of keeping archetypes like dragons and deathrattle alive if they are cycling out more than they print?and dragon decks just barely a thing

The problem is that doomhammer + Rockbiters used to be a finisher for control shaman. Back when things were a lot slower and shaman had to be careful swinging so many times because it had no healing, using it for board control cost you a shitton of life. Now they have amazing early and midgame with huge temp swings (malestrom, thing from below etc etc) so doomhammercan go 16+4+4+4=28 damage to face.

Honestly if shaman is nerfed, hunter will become even worse. They already have comparable winrates vs the other classes, and only really lose to aggro/midrange shaman (check the latest VS data report). It's the same problem in reverse- a deck with great early and midgame that now has an insane finisher.

the epic sheet

you can just download innkeeper you know
anyways here's mine,i'll keep adventures but i'll DE rotated out expansions immediately

>12 GvG

>BRM
>only 57 cards
>5 wings
What a piece of shit that was.

you don't even need a full collection. there's so many useless cards.

Of course you don't need one, but I want one. I've literally never crafted or disenchanted a card (aside from nerfs) for the sake of a full collection

>patron warrior requires planning ahead and tactics to play off
>gets nerfed
>braindead tempo mage, aggro shaman and huntard
>nothing is done about them

kripp pls go

So stop playing arena, everyone else already has
Or if you're playing control shaman, just accept it, freeze mage has been the bane of our existence since the beginning of time

Justicar is basically class-specific, and rotating out.
Yogg is for degenerates and europeans.
I'd say unless you have a favorite class you play exclusively, start with the 5 classic neutrals: Sylvanas, Ragnaros, Thalnos, Malygos, Leeroy.
In that order if you play boring decks.
If you like fun, start with malygos. Start with leeroy if you like memes.

>reached rank 11 wild from rank 25 just today
>0 (zero) losses so far
>only a handful of real decks
>most players have 0 (zero) wild cards in their decks
why is wild so noobish?

man i have a ways to go

standard players grinding out quests in wild because it's easier. They're too lazy to make a wild deck just for a quest and as a result they lose to wild decks because the cards are just so much stronger

>make new account to get Morgl
>open up free pack
>Ysera
I've been playing since beta and never unpacked her on my main account, it's not fair.

>shaman puts 2 totem golems turn 3
>next tuskarr totemic puts on another 2 totem golems on board

I have cancer

When the Triforce of Cancer rotates out Doomhammer will be "fine".
Assuming they don't introduce more early-game faggotry to Shaman.

>tfw in your second game with malchezaar healadin you meme on a midrange hunter so hard, beating turn 6 highmane and turn 8 cotw, that they add you
>tfw never get fan mail
>tfw this is all I get

Feels mediocre, man. I want to get cussed out, fuck.

>midrange shaman for some reason runs rag
>plays it into doomsayer
>it hits the doomsayer instead of my face
>50/50 to win or lose the game on the spot

Literally coinflipstone.

I really wish someone like Kripp would just have some absolutely despicable run of bad RNG and just go on a tirade about how shit the game is, hopefully quitting. We need a(or several) big e-memer to spark a possible exodus and perhaps blizzard might do something and stop wanking to Valeera emotes all day.

most of the decks I've been facing would be weak even in standard
meme hunter decks that have a lot of obvious budget cuts, cthun mages, etc.

Post the deck dude. I've been playing Malch warrior and get anally devastated every game vs hunters.

Why do shaman cards play so well onto eachother? Literally their whole aggro go face is made up of mostly only shaman cards?

Ben Brode is a fucking retarded piece of shit

>questing conceal, topdeck another conceal

I have around 1600 dust. Convince me not to craft edwin for this deck.

which one of you was it, /hsg/?

> if they can't answer it they lose.
the warrior had over 20 armor, they definitely wouldn't have lost
> by being aggressive without overextending.
my deck consists of doomsayers, valets, babbling books, thaurissan, medivh (which i didn't draw) and alexstrazsa, with the rest being a fuckton of spells. there's no way i can be aggresive.

this was a dragon warrior. not only did they have execute, they had shield slam, the 3 damage 5/4 and the 2 mana 3/3. execute just annoys me the most because of the tempo swings it can bring

Weaponless Warrior somehow managed 3 fucking wins. Don't ask how.

because when you have 3200 dust you can craft golden edwin for it

I want to play arena

what classes are top tier?

Not even sure if this is the most optimal list but I'm 5-1 with it in Casual and I say that going against literally nothing but shamans, hunters, and zoolocks. Mostly just tries to survive until you can play the malch legos which are often big top end stuff. Can't quite bring myself to bring it onto ladder, not until I make the grind to rank 5 this weekend at least.

I got 7-3 with weaponless warrior a couple days ago
just git lucky

mage >> rogue >> shaman > paladin >> warlock > warrior > druid >> hunter >>priest

>he thinks every matchup is winnable

...

Rogue > Mage > Paladin > Shaman > Druid > Warlock > Warrior > Hunter > Priest
imo

>Rogue > Mage
You are absolutely clueless.

So, /hsg/, you are saving gold for the next expansion, right? How much do you have?

no idea where I got all those tgt cards when I bought 20 packs tops and crafted a couple legendaries
must have been old arena

500 so far, aiming for 3000-4000

enough

of course they aren't, just not a fan of 1 mana delete

Nah, Karazhan released not too long ago so I'm playing arena trying to earn more packs/dust that way. Probably will be better off in the long run that way, so you can craft the few specific legendaries that are actually viable in the new set.

I'll start actually saving my gold once they announce when it will be released. That's generally enough time to save up enough to get 40 packs with gold in my experience.

>Playing druid on the tavern
>Turn 2 Malorne
>Opponent rouge only have shit deathrattles and combos
>he even has a wisp costing 0
This tavern is fun

Shaman is way better than paladin in the current meta.

Druid is not that good since ramping up and playing big guys doesn't work in arena. Though you can draft a decent beast deck now especially with drafting bonus to Ravens, and some other cards like Ironbark or Living roots are still solid, plus now you get a proper board clear with Corrupted Seer.

Warrior is only held back by his shit hero power because he's been given good arena cards every recent expansion, you just need to not pick GvG garbage.

Mage is now in a completely separate tier called 'pick this if you want to have a realistic shot at high wins'.

>playing wild
>get matched against the same guy 3 times in a row
Ded format

Mage >>> Rogue > Shaman > Warrior > Paladin > Druid > Warlock >> Hunter > Priest

This is based on a recent Heartharena statistics post.

Priest > everything else

>shaman above warrior

How? I always beat them even with subpar rogue and mage decks.

Warriors with weapons on the other hand are a pain in the ass. Especially with the introduction of illusionist+fools bane.

I don't know that's what Heartharena says.

>my rank 16 experience is more relevant than global statistics

I remember the days when Rag was the worst game-deciding RNG.
Now tier-1 metadecks revolve around Yogg.

This is probably the dumbest complaint about shaman i've ever heard

Mage is top by a very wide margin, and shaman is slightly above paladin after the changes.
Also warrior is better than warlock.

They're better then warrior overall because they don't rely on drafting specific cards (ie weapons) they just have a solid class pool overall
Warrior has much more useless bullshit in their pool
also
>I always beat them even with subpar rogue and mage decks.
wow, what a shocker

>How?
More and better choice of aoe, single target removal, and early game. More proactive hero power that's always better except for late game vs. burst classes like mage. Also, a common 7/7 minion on turn 4 is as good as it gets.

>I always beat them even with subpar rogue and mage decks.
Because they're still better than shaman.

When?

>be me f2p since beta
>decide to do an arena
>choose mage
>1 fireball
>that's it

wow how fucking basic who would have guessed that a f2p player gets fucked over like that huh

As a Battlecry alone this is way too good.

how mad wud u be

Shit, paladin took a dive. Mage is just so, so much better than rogue actually. Firelands portal should be a rare.

Show your draft? I rarely have a mage draft that wont go above 5 wins.

>warlock in brawl
>play 1-mana illidan
>next turn play 2-mana councilman
>free pack

I went 1 mana avianna, innervate, living roots, cenarius
Only brawl game I won turn 1 so far. Got around 50 wins there.

>Have to launch the game a random number of times to get past playful sprites

they've taken it too far

just ran my arena mate, ended up getting 6 wins anyway

Got 80 gold and 2 packs

>renounce darkness deck
>get mage
>turned half my fucking warlock cards into counterspells and spellbenders
what the fuck