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>new thread while the old one is at 717 posts
dude...

VICTOR WAS A GOOD BOY WHO DINDU NUFFIN FUCK OFF GRANDIGBENIS!

Based

You what
The population of leinster alone is 4 million

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⠊⠝⠛⠎⠁⠽⠁⠃⠕⠥⠞⠍⠑,
⠽⠕⠥⠇⠊⠞⠞⠇⠑
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⠞⠓⠑⠠⠝⠁⠧⠽⠠⠎⠑⠁⠇⠎,⠁⠝⠙⠠⠊’⠧⠑
⠃⠑⠑⠝⠊⠝⠧⠕⠇⠧⠑⠙⠊⠝⠝⠥⠍
⠑⠗⠕⠥⠎⠎⠑⠉⠗⠑⠞⠗
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⠓⠁⠧⠑⠕⠧⠑⠗⠼⠉⠚⠚
⠉⠕⠝⠋⠊⠗⠍⠑⠙⠅⠊⠇⠇⠎.
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⠝⠞⠊⠗⠑⠠⠥⠠⠎⠁⠗⠍⠑⠙
⠋⠕⠗⠉⠑⠎.⠠⠽⠕⠥⠁⠗⠑
⠝⠕⠞⠓⠊⠝⠛⠞⠕⠍⠑⠃⠥⠞
⠚⠥⠎⠞⠁⠝⠕⠞⠓⠑⠗⠞⠁⠗⠛⠑
⠞.⠠⠊⠺⠊⠇⠇⠺⠊⠏⠑
⠽⠕⠥⠞⠓⠑⠋⠥⠉⠅⠕⠥
⠞⠺⠊⠞⠓⠏⠗⠑⠉⠊⠎⠊
⠕⠝⠞⠓⠑⠇⠊⠅⠑⠎⠕⠋⠺⠓⠊⠉⠓
⠓⠁⠎⠝⠑⠧⠑⠗⠃⠑⠑⠝⠎⠑⠑⠝⠃⠑⠋⠕⠗⠑
⠕⠝⠞⠓⠊⠎⠠⠑⠁⠗⠞⠓,⠍⠁⠗
⠅⠍⠽⠋⠥⠉⠅⠊⠝⠛
⠺⠕⠗⠙⠎.⠠⠽⠕⠥⠞⠓⠊⠝⠅⠽
⠕⠥⠉⠁⠝⠛⠑⠞⠁⠺⠁⠽⠺⠊⠞⠓
⠎⠁⠽⠊⠝⠛⠞⠓⠁⠞⠎⠓⠊⠞⠞⠕
⠍⠑⠕⠧⠑⠗⠞⠓⠑⠠⠊⠝⠞⠑⠗⠝⠑⠞
⠠⠞⠓⠊⠝⠅⠁⠛⠁⠊⠝,
⠋⠥⠉⠅⠑⠗.⠠⠁⠎⠺⠑⠎⠏⠑
⠁⠅⠠⠊⠁⠍⠉⠕⠝⠞⠁⠉⠞⠊⠝⠛
⠍⠽⠎⠑⠉⠗⠑⠞⠝⠑⠞
⠺⠕⠗⠅⠕⠋⠎⠏⠊⠑⠎

This

New M&T update when

>ireland was overpopulated
>people don't think that should be represented

Never

When's the HoI4 patch coming out for pirates?

CODEX already released it

Thaïs, it's historical ffs

Dedalus, if you are reading this. Pls come back.

This general is in fucking shambles jesus christ

I don't believe so but it isn't that relevant, SWMH is shit.

>reddit makes thread 30 posts early
>all the reddit sundry flocks to the new meme thread

RIGHTFUL THREAD:

Too many teenagers, in two weeks it will probably be better.

Why?

We need more mods

It has more provinces though

Because Dedalus is both gud at the game and comfy.

That doesn't matter when the map is shit and full of retarded localization.

Why did he leave? Why do you watch people playing games?

>retarded localization.
>being a pleb

You can disable that though.

He just randomly stopped in the middle of a series.
I watch people playing games if I can't play it myself and to fall asleep.

WE

No you can't

What's the next stellaris DLC about?

That's sad.

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⠊⠝⠛⠎⠁⠽⠁⠃⠕⠥⠞⠍⠑,
⠽⠕⠥⠇⠊⠞⠞⠇⠑
⠃⠊⠞⠉⠓⠠⠊’⠇⠇⠓⠁⠧⠑
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⠞⠕⠏⠕⠋⠍⠽⠉⠇⠁⠎⠎⠊⠝
⠞⠓⠑⠠⠝⠁⠧⠽⠠⠎⠑⠁⠇⠎,⠁⠝⠙⠠⠊’⠧⠑
⠃⠑⠑⠝⠊⠝⠧⠕⠇⠧⠑⠙⠊⠝⠝⠥⠍
⠑⠗⠕⠥⠎⠎⠑⠉⠗⠑⠞⠗
⠁⠊⠙⠎⠕⠝⠠⠁⠇-⠠⠟⠥
⠁⠑⠙⠁,⠁⠝⠙⠠⠊
⠓⠁⠧⠑⠕⠧⠑⠗⠼⠉⠚⠚
⠉⠕⠝⠋⠊⠗⠍⠑⠙⠅⠊⠇⠇⠎.
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⠝⠞⠊⠗⠑⠠⠥⠠⠎⠁⠗⠍⠑⠙
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⠕⠝⠞⠓⠑⠇⠊⠅⠑⠎⠕⠋⠺⠓⠊⠉⠓
⠓⠁⠎⠝⠑⠧⠑⠗⠃⠑⠑⠝⠎⠑⠑⠝⠃⠑⠋⠕⠗⠑
⠕⠝⠞⠓⠊⠎⠠⠑⠁⠗⠞⠓,⠍⠁⠗
⠅⠍⠽⠋⠥⠉⠅⠊⠝⠛
⠺⠕⠗⠙⠎.⠠⠽⠕⠥⠞⠓⠊⠝⠅⠽
⠕⠥⠉⠁⠝⠛⠑⠞⠁⠺⠁⠽⠺⠊⠞⠓
⠎⠁⠽⠊⠝⠛⠞⠓⠁⠞⠎⠓⠊⠞⠞⠕
⠍⠑⠕⠧⠑⠗⠞⠓⠑⠠⠊⠝⠞⠑⠗⠝⠑⠞
⠠⠞⠓⠊⠝⠅⠁⠛⠁⠊⠝,
⠋⠥⠉⠅⠑⠗.⠠⠁⠎⠺⠑⠎⠏⠑
⠁⠅⠠⠊⠁⠍⠉⠠⠺⠓⠁⠞⠞⠓⠑⠋⠥⠉⠅⠙
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⠽⠕⠥⠇⠊⠞⠞⠇⠑
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⠞⠓⠑⠠⠝⠁⠧⠽⠠⠎⠑⠁⠇⠎,⠁⠝⠙⠠⠊’⠧⠑
⠃⠑⠑⠝⠊⠝⠧⠕⠇⠧⠑⠙⠊⠝⠝⠥⠍
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⠁⠊⠙⠎

REAL THREAD:

>modifying the infopic for your memes
>ban evading
Fuck off

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⠉⠕⠝⠋⠊⠗⠍⠑⠙⠅⠊⠇⠇⠎.
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⠕⠥⠉⠁⠝⠛⠑⠞⠁⠺⠁⠽⠺⠊⠞⠓
⠎⠁⠽⠊⠝⠛⠞⠓⠁⠞⠎⠓⠊⠞⠞⠕
⠍⠑⠕⠧⠑⠗⠞⠓⠑⠠⠊⠝⠞⠑⠗⠝⠑⠞
⠠⠞⠓⠊⠝⠅⠁⠛⠁⠊⠝,
⠋⠥⠉⠅⠑⠗.⠠⠁⠎⠺⠑⠎⠏⠑
⠁⠅⠠⠊⠁⠍⠉⠠⠺⠓⠁⠞⠞⠓⠑⠋⠥⠉⠅⠙
⠊⠙⠽⠕⠥⠚⠥⠎⠞⠋⠥⠉⠅
⠊⠝⠛⠎⠁⠽⠁⠃⠕⠥⠞⠍⠑,
⠽⠕⠥⠇⠊⠞⠞⠇⠑
⠃⠊⠞⠉⠓⠠⠊’⠇⠇⠓⠁⠧⠑
⠽⠕⠥⠅⠝⠕⠺⠠⠊⠛⠗⠁⠙⠥⠁⠞⠑⠙
⠞⠕⠏⠕⠋⠍⠽⠉⠇⠁⠎⠎⠊⠝
⠞⠓⠑⠠⠝⠁⠧⠽⠠⠎⠑⠁⠇⠎,⠁⠝⠙⠠⠊’⠧⠑
⠃⠑⠑⠝⠊⠝⠧⠕⠇⠧⠑⠙⠊⠝⠝⠥⠍
⠑⠗⠕⠥⠎⠎⠑⠉⠗⠑⠞⠗
⠁⠊

Actually even if you used SED shit will still bein localized names
The castle in Jerusalem is called "tour de david" for ffs, that's french

Making money

Is Stellaris actually fun? I played it for an hour and it was boring as shit.

MODS!

r8 updated autism

No it isn't, it's shit. Play DW.

it's boring and bad and simple, play it once then uninstall, better yet don't play it at all
in the late game you can't lose, but you can only conquer a few planets at a time, there's no diplomacy system to speak of so you will always be conquering planets rather than partaking in intrigue, and minerals and energy credits are optional in the late game since you can play with zero of both and still win wars and thrive

It's really dull. It's like EUIV without any kind of history behind it or alt-history things to do.
It's just blob. Everyone has the same events. Same exact thing happens every game it's just the names of the blobs are different. You're better off playing Galactic Civ 2 or Distant Worlds or something.

What I'm looking at here?

Will it make stellaris a better game than DW?

This.

>filename

Call me when Stellaris is better than GalCiv2 which came out like 6 goddamn years ago and IS self admitted 4x

Why did they ever think the game was a good idea?

Source for Ireland being overpopulated?

So a meme that isn't even related to video games?

>no greater israel

now this is a kc tier post

Why do you think people were so fucking unemployed, poor and leaving the country?

Paradox is not staffed by people who play GS. It's just EA lite.
>gotta make those shekels
>gotta release those half made games then use DLC to fix it
Dumb millennials eat that shit up since it's all they've ever known.

heritage.nf.ca/articles/society/irish-migration.php

>Migrants left their homes for a variety of reasons – overpopulation prompted some residents to move elsewhere in search of land and employment

Not even him, didn't you study history in school?

probably the fact that they had more people pre-potato famine than they do today

The market is full of space 4x games, I guess they wanted a share.

Because of the Penal Laws, abseentee landlordism and the lack of investment and industrialisation due to London not caring about Ireland.

What's up with the fad of space 4x anyway? People will get burned and the developers will start crying no one's interested in it anymore.

the corn laws were a thing as well


the potato blight didn't just hit ireland, it hit the entire continent yet only ireland suffered this heavily

Look it's a common known fact that ireland had an ovepropulation crisis.

>play hoi3
>BBs and DDs
>if the fleet is not up to date then it is disorganized to hell by enemy carriers
>can sink ships if it's up to date
>but have no glorious carriers

>CVs and CLs
>disorganize the shit out of enemy fleets and leave them half-broken
>but don't really sink anything

Is 1 CV, 2 BBs, 3 CLs, and 6 DDs the greatest fleet composition ever?

Yes, it is.

DDs are only good for taking down submarines.

>it hit the entire continent yet only ireland suffered this heavily
That was because the penal laws left Catholics in poverty forced them to divide their lands and because the British exported food from Ireland during the Famine while independent countries could just cease exporting to food in order to feed their people.

No it's because the place was so full of people they didn't even have any land to farm.

Because the penal laws forced Catholics to divide their lands between their sons and left them with land that was only big enough to farm potatoes.

but brudder, all BBs should be accompanied by their DD lil bros!
They raise the average speed of the fleet so I do think they are a bit useful.

No, because it was full of people.

>the brits dindu nuffin

just fuck off, stop posting excerpts and post the source you're getting them from

it's really fucking mind boggling someone would deny british responsibility in the great famine

Forgot pic


I didn't say they didn't do nothing, I said Ireland was overpopulated and that was one of its big problems.

Literally no one denied the brits did shit you dumbfuck, quote the point where annoyed did it.

The source is Population Growth and Agrarian Change: An Historical Perspective By D. B. Grigg

Capitalism and imperialism were to blame, don't make it about nation and race

>quote the point where annoyed did it.
Meant "quote the post where anyone did it"
Fucking auto correct.

>Not even historically did the Irish population go that low.
Yes, it actually did:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_population_analysis
In 1926 the population was less than 3 million.
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The population of Ireland in that screenshot is 12 million people though, if anything the modifiers should be bigger.

How about not using slow ships?

>in 1926 the population was less than 3 million
In the Republic of Ireland, read the link you just posted properly.

>if anything the modifiers should be bigger
Because an independent Ireland controlled by its own people and not by absentee landlords and Westminster wouldn't be different? Oh right, 'Britannia did nothing wrong'!!1!

>They raise the average speed of the fleet

How? Do they tow the big battleships of what?

The island doesn't support that many people, the 19th century overpopulation and famine left that very clear.

In what grand strategy can I do this
youtu.be/MvFmuWd_NQw

The Irish famine doesn't show that Ireland can't support too many people any more than the Holodomor shows that Ukraine can't support too many people. The severity of the famine was a result of the Penal Laws and the exporting of food by Britain.

ftg

The fact that with 7~8 million people there were no arable land left and people were starving left and right shows that.

wtf I love African military now

How should I go about playing Canada in HPM?
Should I release all 4 of the Canadian subcountries & grant them independence or just Canada itself? Which actions will lead to the events or decisions that let me claim the entire canada?

>that explosion in the end
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it's at 703 now kek

There are events but I'm not really sure, I think if you release everyone they eventually join you or petition to join you.

People were starving left and right because they were dependent on the potato and had nothing else to eat due to being poor tenant farmers and due to British export of food.

>mfw galciv2 is more complex than eu$ and hoi$

That also, but also because most people were employed in the field and since the field was overpopulated, they were unemployed and couldn't buy shit. It's not like there wasn't food in Ireland, people died left in right because they were poor, they were poor because they didn't have places to grow shit and agriculture was 99% of the economy. They didn't have place to grow shit because the place was overpopulated. So the RGOs for ireland should reflect that.

When I release them should I also use the 'release vassals' decision to remove them from being substates of the UK?

I guess, just in case.

enclosures already reduces rgo size

It will cost UK 10 prestige each vassal you release I think.

It should reduce further because at 8-7 million it was already full.

My word, it's almost as if situations can be contributed to by multiple factors!

>what is industrialisation
An Irish government would've invested and industrialed in its people, this is just railroading. There are countries smaller than Ireland with a higher population and they don't seem to be having overpopulation problems.

RGO has shit all to do with industrialization.
We are talking about the maximum size of agriculture.

Which is heavily influenced by agricultural technique - a huge part of the issue was the style of cultivation, was it not? Why wouldn't an independent Ireland have an Agricultural Revolution?