/cfog/ - Classic Fallout (& New Vegas) General

I wouldn't take ingame SPECIAL stats to mean much, by that logic the NCR and Legion leaders you nuke are also godtier when they're really just like that to be challenging as endgame boss characters. That said Ulysses is certainly a tough motherfucker.

I ROOTED YOU OUT LIKE THE DOGS OF CAESAR YOU ARE

DIE WHERE YOU FUCKING STAND

Mmm? It's just a chore, courier.

>HOW ABOUT WE HAVE THIS GAME MECHANIC
>ITS GONNA BE SO FUN DONT WORRY
>THIS GAME MECHANIC
>WHERE BREATHING
>KILLS YOU
>...
>have a fucking promotion Johnson

Why does Graham pronounce Caesar as see-zur like a fucking Profligate?

Graham is a profligate now and knew Caesar from when he was still little Edward.

Do you think they ever had a BOYHOOD ROMANCE?

Our boy Frank only loses to himself or plot armour.

No. Caesar's undoubtedly into subs.

Subway or Quiznos

Frank Hoagiean.

Red October.

Was Josh a Christian while he was with the Legion?

>tfw if he had decided to become Caesar instead, he could've created the Byzantine Empire

He was originally a mormon missionary who got tangled up in Sallow's ambition, so yes.

that was avellones idea

Lanius vs Ulysses? The latter has 10 in all SPECIAL and is supposed to be Courier tier, right?

Just use the GECK. My money's on Lanius; NPCs are susceptible to knockback that the player isn't.

Momonism and Orthodoxy are vastly different. It would be a very bizarre military culture if he'd taken over the Legion.

I doubt he was openly Mormon. It was probably something he pushed to the back of his mind or ignored, a lapse in faith if you will. Later, after being discarded by Caesar and having a lot of time to think and heal did he probably reclaim his Christian identity.

>SPECIAL stats count lore wise
No.

So i'm about to go to Ceasars camp and wreck everyone there, I'm already villified from Ceasars Legion but i'm just wondering if there's anything I should know?

You should know you're a faggot for not supporting the legion.

dumb frogposter

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>not siding with house, doing all the NCR quests, then siding with caesar at the end for maximum quests

wew

>what is roleplaying

Literally your post right now

>not roleplaying as sergeant CHIM

just bring a gun, you'll be okay

Go independent to piss off the legionfags and housefags.

Also, watch out of his Praetorians, they'll fist your asshole.

If you haven't done his quest, might as well bring Boone to get some affinity points for killing Caesar.

OBLIGATORY DLC RANKINGS POST .v2
>GOD TIER
Dead Money, Old World Blues
>GOOD TIER
Point Lookout, Honest Hearts
>OKAY TIER
The Pitt, Lonesome Road
>BAD TIER
Broken Steel
>SHIT TIER
Operation Anchorage
>EASTER EGG TURNED CANON TIER
Mothership Zeta

Changes: LR and HH moved up one space on the tier list.

Is the guy holding a Recharger rifle on the screenshots?

where

It's holstered, but I felt the urge to take my chances guessing which weapon he's using judging by ammo count alone.

>Boone tells you to find "him"
>A woman sold his wife into slavery

potery

How did Vaul-tec decide to use the Vault's as psychological experiments?

Seems a bit outlandish, although looking at the US governments past crazy projects, you can imagine something similar happening.

How did Vaul-tec decide to use the Vault's as psychological experiments?
The Enclave

No real understanding of what the post war world would like that, so they tried all sorts of different experiments to see how people would turn out.

Take for example vault 22. They had no idea what, if any, plant life would survive, so they turned a vault into a botanical garden.

Weren't the results for the experiements actually for the Enclaves plan to leave earth for another planet, though?

>tfw no Vault where everyone is raised on Cy Endfield holotapes and books on the British Empire, and supplied with bearskin caps and red uniforms.

youtube.com/watch?v=PGrxHO-B2TY

Maybe one day they will feature Britain in the fallout universe. It exists in the canon I'm pretty sure ;-;

yes

the enclave(and Fallout) were going into space

Why.jpg

How could they go to space when they can't even survive in the wasteland and have a massive manpower shortage?

How do the experiments help anyway?

>The Presidential Vertibird of the NCR is called fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Bear_Force_One

You can't make this shit up.

>youtube.com/watch?v=twQlpFrm5iM
>Kimball.wav

I forgot to take Boone. Should I just get him now or what?

Ceasar is already dead

It exists, but like the rest of Europe, China and the Middle East, its a no go zone.

I suspect there might be a Native American or Canadian Vault nearby, but I highly doubt the isolationist Americans would've built any for their European ancestors. You forget the EU formed a lot earlier in Fallout, and they were togged bogged down with fighting the Middle East to do business with the Americans.

Besides, F3 has confirmed the UK is completely fucked. Tenpenny said so.

Yeah there are plenty of opportunities to get him points.

Easiest is free the Powder Ganger captives and talk to the First Recon.

the experiments were planned before the war and before the enclave largely fell apart.

The vaults were various tests on the human condition and how it would respond to different climates and controls. So they could eventually see how humanity could survive after the presumed apocalypse and further into deep space exploration.

And then Fallout 3 came along and turned every vault in wacky experiment dungeon theme

>Besides, F3 has confirmed the UK is completely fucked. Tenpenny said so.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Whichever power reunites America needs to take care of those bloody Chinks and Eurasian swine once and for all.

ONE GREAT WAR WASN'T ENOUGH

Would would you want a none American Fallout anyway?

Even as a fellow Britfag user I know it wouldn't feel right.

Too late now, I think it has to be with Caesar. If by some chance he does say something about how Caesar didn't see that coming when next talking to him, then you could probably still get the points by saying it felt good. Unless you're a completionist it doesn't really matter.

Same here, maybe as a dlc it could work but Fallout is far too rooted in the US for the idea of a whole game set elsewhere to sound appealing. I feel you'd lose too much of makes it distinct from other post-apocalyptic stuff.

I would've liked the Cloud better if it did something OTHER than kill you. Like, I dunno, melt your fucking suit onto you + damage it, or some shit. Something that wasn't just 'oh great now I'm gonna have to chug some of my food supplies/stimpacks'.

bad writing

if you have to resort to 'le social experiment :^)' maymay for your story, then it's bad fucking writing, because it's literally only used by people who can't think of a REAL reason for someone/some company to be acting evil other than 'its a social experiment'.

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Yeah, I agree, but I'm just too much of a teaboo.

Maybe I'm wishing that the Fallout guys could somehow apply the retro-futurist makeover to Britain. Have a faction that's ruled by a surviving member of the Royal Family, have Caths and Prods tribesmen fighting it out in Northern Ireland still (kek). Have the remnants of the EU trying to exert their influence in Britain.

Maybe have London be a massive ruin of tribes and raiders all fighting for control of the irradiated husks of the past, the Houses of Parliament, Windsor Castle, The London Eye is now a snipers den, Tower Bridge has become a micro-state of it's own, with machine gun nests in each tower, exacting heavy tolls on anybody who wishes to cross the Thames.

what are they even going to DO with the data, they're all fucking dead

Did you forget that the group that organized the experiments had survived the war due to their own preparation?

Just make it The Warriors but in London with obligatory Clockwork Orange shout-outs

>applying todays problems to Fallout
No. This is why I fear for a South themed Fallout done by Bethesda.

You'd have the issue of race handled like "you are a slave who leads a dindu rebellion against the Enclave who now wear white robes"

And?
What the fuck are they going to DO with the data gained from their ebin social experiments?

did you gloss over every instance of plans for deep space exploration in this thread?

Go to space

Do space things

Jerk off to security cam footage from their sadism simulators

>You'd have the issue of race handled like "you are a slave who leads a dindu rebellion against the Enclave who now wear white robes"
That's fucking hilarious and shockingly plausible.

Well, they were pretty set on the whole "SPAAAAAAAACE" thing until they got BTFO by a lone fucking tribal/NCR.

Hindsight is kind of a bitch.

By the way, are you fucking retarded? We just said what they were for: To see under which conditions humanity can survive, and making the neccessary preparations depending on the results.

Mind you, the plan existed already before the bombs fell, until the apocalypse blindsided them.

AND WHAT EXFUCKINGXACTLY ARE THEY GOING TO USE TO DO THAT

Stop trying to justify the shitty 'social experiment' meme and just admit that it's a product of bad writing.

Honestly, a Dixie or First Family faction would work far better if it was post-racial. You can keep the airs of elitism and civility, but the racialism simply makes them unappealing to all but actual racists.

THE EARTH IS ON THE VERGE OF ENDING IN NUCLEAR HELLFIRE GEE I WONDER WHY ANYONE WOULD WANT TO LOOK INTO SPACE EXPLORATION

Are you a House supporter by any chance? Because he has the exact same end goal.

>Honestly, a Dixie or First Family faction would work far better if it was post-racial.

How about reversed?

>black wastelanders find history of the wastes
>get mad at evil whitey for enslaving them in the before time
>AFRICAN CONFEDERACY begins led by the Souths first female president, Roberta E Lee

>tfw no wee britain vault

>US government believed the world wouldn't be like it was post apocalypse
Back up by Randal Clarke's logs in HH. He says the government told everyone the fallout would only last a few weeks.

The vault experiments would've worked if the world turned out like the government had planned for. The Enclave are now just making the best of a bad situation.

>black abolitionist scholars
>whites singing slave songs
>some kind of mecha-Lincoln secret project to liberate all the slaves

shit, I'm full /pol/ and I'd buy it.

That's just about as dumb, except it relies specifically on contemporary perspectives of America's racial history to be effective. RP-wise, it's arguably worse. Tribalism is already an in-universe thing - it'd be smarter to build a racially-motivated slave society from there.

If Bethesda is monitoring this thread, then we are fucked.

We already know their writers just read wikis for the lore.

I don't think the government actually believed that, it sounds like bullshit to keep people calm, like sitting under your desk if a nuclear bomb goes off.

>Mecha Lincoln
>opens his mouth and spouts out quotes in his nasally voice

Thinking about doing a Gundam build, focusing on Melee, Energy Weapons and Explosives.
What's the quickest way to acquire Power Armor and training for it?

You get PA training from either the BoS (which takes several long quests) or the Enclave (which makes you walk all over the place to build history points with Arcade). You can pick a BoS or Enclave background with Alt. Start and get it right out of the gate.

Get the power armor training perk through mods/console? If not, then go independent as soon as you get to the Strip and Arcade will suck your dick.

It would only work if the issue of race continued to be a thing.

I highly doubt there was a mass protest movement like the civil rights marches, mainly because everyone was too concerned with Communism. If the late 60s never happened, then all this shit wouldn't exist, and America would still be full on "Red Scare" mode.

If any society is to be built on hate, it would more on ideology than race. You can possibly argue a society who hate Asians and Hispanics, but I highly doubt the differences between blacks and whites matter all that much now.

>half the quotes are MLK quotes

go to hidden valley, go through the gate that leads you to the centaur pen near black mountain
grab the brotherhood holotape and go back to hidden valley
interact with the intercom
go through the brotherhood quests, I think Hardin's side is shorter than McNamara's but I may be wrong.

>What's the quickest way to acquire Power Armor and training for it?
alternate start and choosing the enclave background,

Got it. What about a suit of armor itself? Is there an early game location where I could find one?

It is I believe, Haridn just has you kill the Van Graffs, McNamara makes you go through a few vaults to find spare parts.

>that fucking terminal quest

JSaywer removes power armor training, so the quickest way would be sneak into Black Mountain and find the two Brotherhood paladin corpses.

>Early game
kek
You can get a full Enclave suit if you go to an unmarked location across the Colorado and a certain mine up by Jacobstown.

Black Mountain Crater with the centaurs
REPCONN HQ, just west of the 188
Near the Boomers,

>deathclaws and cazadors

I'm not a /pol/fag but studies have shown again and again that people are more comfortable with people who are similar to them. While the vast majoriy would most likely put aside differences in order to survive, peopele making similar communities whether racial or ideological is far more likely than unlikely.

If you fo Arcade's quest you get free enclave armor, so I wouldn't worry about picking some up.

It wouldn't even work then. There just aren't enough people around for that kind of discriminatory slavery to be viable.