This is an awful Samuro pic. Redo the thread, it looks and feels like garbage.
Andrew Green
Jaina is an anal slut
Oliver Baker
>running away once you see an enemy player is pro tactic >according to user literally to hard for everyone below grand master
Cooper Miller
LUNARA
Jaxson Jenkins
Reminder, the next Heroes of the Storm hero is being revealed on an art stream. It'll be on blizzheroes facebook page on this upcoming Thursday.
Nicholas Reed
I can relate to the feeling of the sport scene being just a big marketing plan just to make people get into the game, that is what I was feeling watching CSGO these days, it just doesn't have the old drive of CSGO
>Moreso than that, the entire notion that these people are "professional" players is retarded. The only thing that separates them from just normal good players is that they played the social game wherein they formed a clique and pushed to get "sponsored", which essentially means some company is willing to throw them a few hundred bucks so long as they whore their shit out. This is nothing special. This does not mean they're anything spectacular or unique, or special in any way
That is clearly bullshit my friend, there is players whose skill or style are unique, they aren't the kind of people you find everyday playing online, there is teams that have amazing strats, and such synergy together they make you envious about not having such team mates, when you act like every single pro is just a regular player thats pure ignorance, on every sport there's people that have talent, teams that have superb synergy together, these kind of things that make you even dream of going pro, these people that inspire you to be even better
So yea, esports and e-sports when they go big, usually turn to be just a marketing facade like you just said, but there is gold deep down the heavy crost of shit, there is people who genuinely love the game, people who have talent, and seeing these people in action is just a pleasure
Jaxson Wood
This is a wonderful Samuro pic. Keep the thread, it looks and feels like a treasure.
Oliver Davis
>posted in wrong thread Updated Tier List, All Feedback Welcome! Meta Still Not Stable Edition
Changelog: Zarya placed in D Tier then S Tier then A Tier
Malfurion moved up to A Tier (from C) Chen moved up to A Tier (from B) Valla moved up to A Tier (from B) Tychus moved up to A Tier (from B) Xul moved up to A Tier (from B) Uther moved lower in A Tier
Kerrigan moved down to B Tier (from A) Alarak moved up to B Tier Hammer moved higher in B Tier Rexxar moved higher in B Tier Sonya moved lower in B Tier
Chromie moved higher in C Tier Tracer moved lower in C Tier
David Phillips
The point is - enemy can just push another lane(s) or trap you easily with certain heroes. This strategy can only work vs complete retards or on pro scene where everything is slightly different. In HL possible output is lower than potential risks.
Daniel Martin
Not that guy.
But the counter point is that there are really amazing players who aren't yet on a pro team. They're great players but for whatever reason don't train and play with a team, so they aren't considered professional.
I would NOT say that makes professionals any less great, it just means to me that some solo amateur players are pretty great too.
Eli Turner
Shit, new thread.
That's the thing. There are a LOT of really good players that you will never see. You used Lebron as your example because that's someone you've been exposed to. For the very fucking good players that you will never be exposed to, for one reason or another, they'll never be under any sort of spotlight. In that, they won't even make it to "The big leagues" whether for personal reasons, or the dice just didn't roll high for them.
Simply believing that the people whom we know of are THE BEST, purely because essentially, they've had a camera shine on them? THAT is ignorance. There are people just as good and quite possibly better, out there in the world.
Also "amateur" implies somebody who hasn't put in very much time into something. Obviously I'm not talking about an "amateur" here, I'm talking about somebody who legitimately loves the game, any game. I think I get what you mean, but again, the difference between "amateur" and "pro" is money, basically. But that's not the point here.
Jackson Adams
I'll tell my tale again.
>playing on Infernal Shrines HL >Pick Sylv >Sylv is great at disabling buildings for John Cena >Sylv's daggers spread from obj monsters to enemy heroes >say "hey how about we take out a tower?" >"but here's the thing, we take just one" >"because we know they'll rotate down" >"so get ready to mount and run after we take one" >we charge in hard, and wipe that tower out >spam retreat ping and mount up >enemy comes down too late >we gallop off to safety, laughing >then we start soaking xp before they do >we have xp lead >we win first objective, push hard with it >we win race to 10 >we steam roll
Jason Sullivan
>Simply believing that the people whom we know of are THE BEST, purely because essentially, they've had a camera shine on them? THAT is ignorance. There are people just as good and quite possibly better, out there in the world.
High skills draw in the cameras, and the sponsorships, and the money; not the other way around. If there is some unknown person out there with Godlike skills he or she WILL be found, and turned into a star
Samuel Hernandez
But you argument can be applied to anything user
There can be great musicians, whose voice will never be heard because of lack of opportunitiers
There is a lot of talented writers whose books/movies/tv shows will never be wrote because the lack of connections
But its not because of them that you won't enjoy listening to your favorite bands or stop watching your movies and tv shows
And the talent is there, you can just deny and pretend that every pro is just a regular shitter with a title, there is a lot of pros who deserve their title
and finally for the argument ''its not fun to watch'' is just a excuse millennial kids with ADHD use to cover their lack of discipline to watch anything that isn't spoonfeed in their brain
David Anderson
That is not true. That's not how the world works. Shit doesn't just come to you like that. I understand what you're saying, and while that may have happened for some people, it did NOT work that way for others.
You can't attribute one particular type of scenario as being feasible for every human being out there. That doesn't even apply to just this topic, that applies to everything. I know of actors who had shit happen for them just like you described, while others had to go out of their way and work hard to get under that spotlight.
Josiah Flores
>Meta Still Not Stable Edition >Changelog: Zarya placed in D Tier then S Tier then A Tier >Blizz faces when
Dylan Hernandez
>no date >Kaelthas/Guldan/Anubarak instead of Kael'thas/Gul'dan/Anub'arak >Lili instead of Li Li >valla that high
Brayden Evans
For sure, you're right, this argument can go for anything.
Like I said, I'm not that guy. I'm also not making those other arguments. People can still enjoy or not enjoy whatever. The talent is there, just like you say. We shouldn't deny that, just as you say.
It's all good, user. I was just saying, is all.
As far as I know the pros who qualify are actually really good. I'm just saying some great people never make it on a pro team. I'm not saying every user claiming to be great is great, but I'm sure I could still learn a thing or two from some high skill amateur streamers.
Anthony Green
>Implying Blizz gives one
they probably laughing right now
Nathaniel Perez
your original implication was that pros are no better then any person off the street. In your example, I'm sure both actors are better than some random person that took drama class in high school.
Being pro doesn't exclusively mean money and fame, it means you're in the top percentile of your practiced craft. Yes there ARE unknown pros, that doesn't mean their skills are no better than the average or even good person.
Liam Perry
So? How your story contradicts with my words?
Levi Brown
>when your misha charges the enemy backline on her own and soloes a chromie while you're backlining too
Jace Stewart
where would you place Valla then, user?
Justin Morales
love the new hots merchandise
Caleb Ramirez
Happy Birthday faggots F5QXDJD53G5HKG6GMWFKR Last thread was archived so I'm posting again
Jaxon Sanders
What's this omen by HP shit on my launcher?
Levi Baker
valla should be tier2 tyrael should be tier 1 kerrigan should be tier 1 hammer should be tier 1 azmodan should be tier 2 medivh should be tier 3
my 2 cents
Jaxson Miller
>can't be claimed is it because I don't have WoW?
Isaac Smith
Someone probably took it already
Jordan Sullivan
does it play sounds it looks like it does
Aiden Ward
Is it considered bestiality if i want to pound that plump centaur ass? Also who is the most FUN hero i could buy right now?
Evan Evans
jesus christ please no
Luke Morgan
What was it?
Carson Smith
She's a dryad you uncultured fuck
Lucas Davis
Any ideas on what the new rewards for reaching level 20 with a hero will be?
Her and Zarya look weird as fuck in this game, I don't know why.
Parker Perry
Tracer looks alright (for the engine.) Her master skin is FUCKING AWFUL though. The artist behind some of these isn't to the height of the ones in Overwatch. Overwatch looks like a classic Capcom game though, is really hard to get there.
Zarya's model looks a lot better though, I like her a lot. Her 2 skins are decent, though, nothing to get crazy about.
Michael Wilson
all the arts look terrible compared to the models, they hired monkeys to do them
Ian Miller
>team league nothing new here
Christopher Cox
>#1 >Abathur ayy lmao
Blake Evans
so did ya win?
Liam Turner
shortest TL game ever, 1 keep down by the 8th
Aaron Collins
I still think Zarya should be S tier. She's not as crazy as she was, but she's still a must pick if she's not banned.
Owen Bailey
my first epic and i wasn't even the mvp felt really good
Joshua White
You know what you must do. Become legend.
Also upload and share the replay. We gotta see this thing.
Carter Peterson
my first epic wasn't even a win felt real bad
Isaiah Brown
>tfw you play amazing all game >tfw you're super far ahead >tfw enemies sneak a kill that leads to some staggering shit >tfw you make the final mistake that ultimatively costs your team the game >tfw from hero to zero
Isaiah Parker
I'm convinced the reason why Abathur and Murky are so "bad" is because people don't know how to fucking play WITH them.
Julian Collins
>may contain awesome hideous is more like it
Carter Adams
But that's from reddit by a guy who's gone and 3D printed her. It's not official.
Brayden Collins
Are there any working maphacks?
Joseph Moore
which tree of talents you fags go for Valla?
Sometimes I go full AoE, but I'm not feeling like its the best
Xavier Rogers
sky blue grass green and all that jazz
Aaron Harris
>maps hacks >in a MOBA how pleb can one be
Henry Thomas
fuck off tierqueer
Liam Sullivan
>push down a keep while my team is holding their ground at beacon >enemy team has to disengage and defend core, my team gets free zerg >"gj murky!"
sometimes they understand.
Adam Thompson
Robogoblin Gaz mains are the chillest mofos in the entire game.
Tyler Butler
Join the Gul'dan brotherhood.
Xavier Hughes
Hot pursuit into all multishot.
Connor Edwards
tfw no cool dehaka main clique
Caleb Adams
Probably because they're so used to losing that nothing phases them anymore.
Cameron Carter
Is Zarya any good?
Colton Parker
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuck yoooou.
Camden Phillips
>Bringing up that broken bitch here.
Dylan Jenkins
how is she broken?
Adam Butler
Crazy damage, crazy sustain, crazy utility. She's banned first or picked first in almost every match.
Leo Martin
Actually, there were. Not sure if they've been squashed somehow or not. But back around release, somebody figured out that SC2 hacks worked on HotS, because HotS basically IS SC2. But they've worked on this game a lot, so who knows if they even work anymore.
William Hughes
What's the best Azmodan build currently?
I hear the stacks build is outdated and people go for full laser, haven't played him in months.
Dominic Parker
So what's the actual good talent build for Malfurion now?
Eli Brooks
Holy fuck that's cool. And creepy.
That's the kind of shit I hope to see in Diablo 4.
Tyler Gonzalez
I think thats cute
its like a little demon, he hides his face then goes ''SHAZAMM'' ripping off the mask with his little hands
Thomas Morgan
The good choices are kind of obvious but according to hots log its.
1. Clarity, Moonburn 4. Growth or Elune's Grace 7. Cleanse 10. Pick your ult 13. Life Seed 16. Roots or Hardened Focus 20. Storm Shield.
