American trucks

>Japanese can build a superior truck to the Americans

Toyota's image is still recovering from all the rotted Tacoma frame's. No one takes these trucks seriously.

30 grand was normal in the 90s you spoilt millenial twat get a job

You could get a V8 pony car for less than 15k in '90.

It could also out-accelerate a Ferrari

yeah and the typhoon/syclone was a lot faster

>4wd tacoma
>suspension travel

top kek. my 1st gen has maybe 6" of travel up front even with OME extended coils and shocks. My '70 bug is faster in the dezert.

A base model XL F-150 with no options and a manual transmission was just a few hundred shy of 20k. 30k was fairly normal.

>implying any car manufacturer can design anything that's not a complete piece of garbage nowadays

My loaded XLT Lariat 4x4 super cab F250 was $20k in 1990.

1990 was the first time in history a base model v8 mustang broke $10,000 sticker price.

It's a fucking lightning, it's meant for the guy who wants something a bit more car-like but wants a truck bed.

>fastest accelerating vehicle that year

>0-60 in almost five seconds was considered fast 25 years ago

How did people not die of old age before they reached their destination?

One of the most anemic Ferraris ever made, yes

>6" of travel

Which is better than 2" that the SVT had

That's still faster than 95% of the cars in Europe.

Eurocucks btfo

>pony car in the 90's
>less than 15k

Pick one faggot

There was a scene on Best Motoring International where they had it blow away an NSX in a drag-race and they looked like they were having some fun.

Hellcat RAM when?

What's the point of this? It's like 60K US dollars and slower than a 3 series. Maybe one day Americans can figure out how to extract more performance from a 8.4L V10 than Europeans can from a 3L 6 cylinder

unsure. surprised it's not here already

No, faggot.

autotrader.com/1990-ford-Mustang.jsp?modelId=9529

a truck weighing over 5000lbs and does 0-60 in 4.8 seconds is pretty impressive. the new 335i does it in 4.4. also the viper engines haven proven to be very reliable in the long run due to being low stressed. the turbo bmw inline 6's have been bigger shitters in the reliability category.

>Maybe one day Americans can figure out how to extract more performance from a 8.4L V10 than Europeans can from a 3L 6 cylinder

Flip side for ya
>Bently Mulsanne
> 505-hp
>6.8-liter twin-turbo V-8

>C6 Corvette Z06
>505 hp
>7.0-liter pushrod V8

In '05 that Ram would smoke any non M 3 series.

Did you forget about the torque?

>Bentley Mulsanne
>1000 nm of torque

>C6 Z06
>470lbft

We've been beating German ass with V10s since the 90s you retarded nigger.

>used cars

>niggermaterials Vs Foot-pounds

I have old car and driver mags, a 92 fox body lx sport 5.0 was less than a fwd turbo laser, the cheapest dsm variant.

15,174 with all performance options
14,700 base price with v8/5spd.

get rekt fgt

no u fgt

>enjoy your v6 with 150,000 miles

Its still almost twice the lb-ft

I thought Euros thought Torque was useless and unworthy of bringing up when discussing engine performance unless we're talking about passenger cars or trucks/haulers. granted, all cars need torque to get moving but beyond that every time someone brought up torque regarding an american engine the response would be something along the lines of "its not supposed to haul your amerifat ass around" etc.

1000nm is like 740lbft

Its a bently not an ariel atom

>passenger cars or trucks/haulers

Bentleys were referred to as the fastest lorries in the world before

How come the worlds best Pickup is a French design from over 40 years ago?

I have multiple engines to choose from, driving the i5t today.
>stay wrong fgt

737 ft/lbs * .5 = 368.5
368.5=470
Europoor math, everyone!

...

Nobody can design trucks: Boxy in the back, boxy in the middle, and the only thing that separates it from the competition is the front bumper.

Because world's best pickup is a 1965 ford f250, which is a very American design.

>only thing that separates it from the competition is the front bumper.
...and the drivetrain, interior, and capabilities?

>honda ridgeline
>fwd
>a whopping 28mpg
>rated to tow less than a 30 year old crown vic

Who buys this useless junk?

we're talking from a design point. The only difference between the new Ridgeline and the Colorado is the bumper.

People who want a truck but don't wanna haul anything with it. Kinda like those people that lift their trucks but never go off road.

>in your mind you have multiple engines to choose from

Stay mad assbuccaneer

>comparing 4wd to 2wd
>ever

kill yourself

my dd was in the class photo, yours wasn't
>because you can't put bread on a dream.

The point of the lightning was a sleeper truck, with practicality and fun. It's rwd for shredding tires, and it's got a small amount of travel so that it doesn't nose dive bad when you hit the breaks. That's why it's called a "sports truck"

>pics or it didn't happen

Willing to bet you're full of shit.

Did you click the link stupid? It lists original 1990 MSRP

aha the 20r and yellow toyota pickup are mine.

that was a year ago. I know have 2 850 turbos

nice electric car
also >light wipers

a g-body cutlass with a 383 swap, an f350 with a 10 ft cab over camper (you can just see it on the side of my garage) and a bobcat with a double axle equipment trailer to pull it around on.

nice bus pass

Suburbanites that want to haul stuff occasionally and like how trucks look but want it to drive like an Accord

>"sports truck"

That's not a sports truck, it's a pile of shit.
THIS is a sports truck

thats a unitbody el camino successor and is slower than a lightning. Only Boomers bought those I never see them.

>That's not a sports truck, it's a pile of shit.

So meta, right here.

you mean no one wanted to buy a $40,000 slushmatic boat with a convertible hardtop and the interior that could have been out of an S10 (with leather)

>americanz think that pos is a sports truck
You want a real sports truck? Look at any holden or ford ute in australia

American companies haven't been ABLE to make a simple pickup truck since the mod 00's thanks to fuel economy regulation.

news.pickuptrucks.com/2013/04/is-the-regular-cab-pickup-doomed.html

that interior looks more PT cruiser than an S10

Dunno they look pretty tough to me breh

>With V10's designed by European engineers
Mfw

Funny because the PT Cruiser launched that whole "retro theme" fad that spawned that god awful SSR

Wasn't it a lambo V12 with 2 cylinders taken off?

No it was a 5.9 Magnum with two cylinders added and cast in aluminum

>380hp 450lb-ft
>so much torque they had to use a F250 transmission
>stiffer suspension
>bigger brakes
>unique interior and exterior trim
>not a sport truck

Fuck off m8.

>unique interior

If you mean the same interior out of a 1988 Crown Vic except with whitefaced dials, then yes it is quite "unique"

That looks nothing like an 88 crown vic. A vic has a much more comfy interior.

If your gonna shitpost at least do so accurately.

Fine, 1993 Crown Vic

Gonna be honest.. i actually like that interior. its a hell of a lot easier on the eyes than some of the Ford truck interiors that followed. its obviously full of plastic but even luxury cars like Mercedes had a lot of plastic back then and don't even get me started on BMW who's interiors in their M3/5 cars costing nearly $100,000 and being loaded with plastic and/or fake wood.

That's a 95. 92-94 Had a slightly different interior, and 96+ had a different steering wheel.

Again, please shitpost responsibly.

Here's a 92-94 for reference. A professional shitposter does not leave room for argument.

You left out the word trim dummy. Which is what the white face gauges, perforated leather wheel, different seats are.

>white face gauges

So they didn't bother to paint the gauges

>perforated leather wheel

They used leather with holes in it? Did they get it from a recycling center?

>different seats
Yes the seats are a different color. This is what defines a sports truck

Funny how those are American made, designed, and built, but are conveniently classed as Japanese when something goes wrong. What about the hilux? No American design and has a golden reputation for reliability and being indestructible.

Wrong

No one puts the 348 on a list of Ferraris worth owning even when it was brand new

Whatever helps you sleep at night

They don't want to hear that mate. One exception would be the harbodies. Designed and made in the USA, many are still in the road today.

>4 door

It's true.
>328: tons of praise
>355: instant classic
>348: uwot

>Designed and made in the USA, many are still in the road today.
Are you sure about that? D21s were available globally and built globally, usually under the Navara nameplate.

Yeah I'll find you the article hold on.

Not all pickups are bought for the single focused reason of carrying an arbitrary 8x4 sheet of random construction material flat in a styleside bed.
If that is however the reason, there's options to accommodate such a task you mouth breathing shitlord.

>So they didn't bother to paint the gauges
So white face electroluminescent gauges are just unpainted now?
>They used leather with holes in it? Did they get it from a recycling center?
You are literally this retarded.
>Yes the seats are a different color. This is what defines a sports truck
The seats themselves are different with more side bolstering than the stock bench and wrapped in a different material with a suede insert to keep you from sliding around. But yes, they're just a different color, stupid.

>arguing about interior trim making or breaking the fact that it's a sport truck
Jesus.