WRC 2016 ADAC Rallye Deutschland

It's mother fucking Friday and it begins one of the best stages in the world championship, Germany. Narrow, winding roads through vineyards on different types of tarmac/asphalt and almost as many hairpins as Monte Carlo.

They've started running SS1 and SS2.

>WHO KRIS MEEKE HERE
>OUNINPOHJA BTFO

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Modern day WRC is shit.

Give me WRC 1980-2005 any day

whats the difference?

I miss Mitsubishi's involvement more than anything, but some of the new drivers are quite talented, Skoda is back. And its fun rooting for anyone that isn't Volkswagen for the manufacturers Championship.

Any streams?

Who /countingthedaystomontecarlo2017/ here?

>Toyota back
>Citroen back as a proper works team
>lighter, wider cars with more aero and up to 380hp

Shit's gonna be so cash.

Group A era - You could buy the cars in the showroom and they would be pretty close to the cars on the stages, competition was stiff (Escort Cosworth, Impreza STi, Lancer Evo, Pulsar GTiR, Delta Integrale, Celica GT-Four, Mazda 323 GTX, Legacy RS, Galant VR4, Sierra Cosworth, Sierra 4x4 Sapphire and more)

WRC era - the same in the case of Subaru and Mitsubishi and a couple of other homologation specials, but also insane levels of competition, really high viewership and an incredibly large variety of manufacturers in a variety of cars. Some absolutely insane FWD kit cars too that would beat 4wd on tarmac

Group B era - You couldn't directly buy the cars aside from the insane homologation specials, but the machines were just insane and the competition tough


These days you get a crappy uninteresting car that isn't even available to the public in the Ogier vs Latvalla cup.

Maybe it would be more interesting if Citroen, Hyundai and Volkswagen released some production WRC editions of the boring hatchbacks in the series, or if the cars were crazy insane but until then it's just dull to watch.

>WRC era - the same in the case of Subaru and Mitsubishi
Actually, no. While Mitsubishi remained as the sole Group A competitor in the premier class, the Subaru entrant was a "prototype" WRC.

Can I watch this on a live stream? Im in the us

forgot to mention they'll also have center differentials again, although I don't know wether they'll be electronic or mechanical.

Since the introduction of the 2nd generation WRC regs in 2011, cars had a direct drive between the front and rear axle.

>cars had a direct drive between the front and rear axle.
Are you sure about that? That doesn't make much sense having the centre locked, especially on transport stages.

WRC is shit
in 2017 there will be ONLY MANUFACTURER TEAMS

FUCK FIA

no, everyone has to pay for that
they usually add short videos on their yt account, you can easily realise that FIA sits in VW pocket

I have wrc+, but I'm kinda just watching it at work and opened a discussion thread. I don't have much time to dig around for a good stream, but I'll relay some info to the thread.

I am, interesting question about the transport stages though

rallytheworld.com/ru/polo-r-wrc-tech-talk-4-wins

There's a clutch to disengage the rear for the moments they use the handbrake, maybe they also do that on transport stages?

the lack of center diff also caused those weird tyre strategies were drivers would run eg a snow tire on the left front, a slick tire on the right front and the other way around on the back in mixed conditions without dying

Well I might as well tripcode as I post the data. I'll only show the top 11, not only because I think it's the most relevant, but also it's all it will show per screencap.

Results for SS1

its an Veeky Forums pretends to care and know about racing episode

Results for SS2

I'm not seeing Kris Meeke anywhere, but last I saw he was testing the Peugeot 2008DKR Dakar Rally Car. I imagine they used Seb Loeb for the Silk Road Rally, and they'll use Meeke for Dakar.

WRC99 Subaru was at least somewhat related to the 22B, not quite to the extent of group A, but the road car was more representative of the rally vehicle than today, significantly so.

WRC reg subarus thereafter were also somewhat related to roadgoing STis. Hence, the car you saw on the stage had some lineage in the production car.

Mitsubishi used an Evo 7 until 04, when they switched to a modified version of a regular Lancer. This was the beginning of the end and is closer to the 4wd DS3s and Polos you see today. Though there's still something to be said about the fact that Evos were still around at that time.

Funny you mention the 22B. As that was actually released in '98 BASED ON the WRC97 that preceded it. The fact there was an aesthetically similar road going version of the Impreza WRC in that period was purely circumstantial.

As you noted, Mitsubishi continued with the "improved production" Group A formula for some time, with a fair amount of success.

It was still a pretty sweet car.
Now we get 4b11t mirage r5 cars which are everywhere in rallycross and smaller rally championships, but not even a WRC2 entry. Makes me sad.

>Funny you mention the 22B. As that was actually released in '98 BASED ON the WRC97 that preceded it. The fact there was an aesthetically similar road going version of the Impreza WRC in that period was purely circumstantial.

the WRC99 still shared some relation to the 22B, despite not being the 22B. Regardless of this, it still hammers home my point that around that time there were production cars that were in some way related to the rally cars. Something about the fact that you could buy a Turbo 4wd 300hp car similar to the one you saw tearing up the stages made the series far more interesting.

You don't really see the same today because the cars are so far removed from the showroom.

Don't even get me started on the fact that they are tiny subcompacts instead of saloon cars and mid range hatchbacks

SS3 is complete. I'll post overall standings after the final stage of the day, SS4 is still being run.

Results for SS4. SSS Ollmuth is currently running and is the final stage of the day. Short 8km course so results are soon to come.

Super Special Stage Ollmuth has rounded up

Lastly, the final standing of the day.

And boy do I wish Ogier was lower on the totem pole.
Will post rally cars for lurkers

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