Has anyone hear actually tried a scam like this without getting caught?

It would take 4 years to earn a million with 5k a week, I'm certain he didn't start this at 14

That guy should have never given that interview.

Doesn't matter, he's not going to hit a million if he spends all his money on hookers and blow.
Especially since those are kiwibux and you have to spend more to get the same quality of hooker.

Fuck now I wish I had the snowcrash file of all the info and the how to
I'm sure they've updated their systems anyways

why is he giving an interview? cc fraud is nothing new or special, thousands of people do it around the world.

Its the definition of a free lunch if you dont get caught

Yeah. There's hundreds of thousands of people doing this EVERY DAY.

Just a little kid and retarded normies who think this most basic and idiotproof of crimes is something amazing... lawl.

It's practically a step up from going into a store, grabbing something and jolting. Same level of complexity.

Article gives shit all detail.
How does he convert the numbers to gift cards without giving away his address?
How does he break the paper trail between the stolen credit cards, the gift cards, and what's purchased?

Dropshipping numbnuts.

He buys gc's with stolen cards. Then offers to sell bigticket items to people online at (I'm assuming) a fairly discounted price. Then he buys them with the giftcard but ships them directly to the customer. He gets paid, customer gets his shit. It's all gravy.

Make sense? There's several lines of disassociation from him.

In order to trace him you'd need to:
>Get in contact with the giftcard company
>Who get in contact with the giftcard seller(who may or not be legit or cooperative)
>Who then get in contact with the company of dropshipped item
>Also in contact with the customer

All of this is very hard obviously to investigate and turn up with anything.

So how does he actually get the gift cards?
Does he go into a store with a fake card and buy them?
Does he get them delivered to a fake address?
Or is there some loophole like you can buy "virtual" giftcards that aren't a physical object?

Probably online bro.

Giftcards are just a code. Plenty of sites sell them for BTC and creditcard. Tons.

And if not you can buy them direct from the store online

Basically what I'm saying is that the kiddo in the news story is making great money with little complexity and very little risk.

Yeah sounds like a good scam.
Would probably be pretty safe provided you always use Tor and don't get the FBI after you

I'm guessing this is pretty much how it works, you need to be able to accept the payment in some anonymous way though. Another difficult part is to actually get the gift cards, a lot of online stores have become harder to card over the years, Amazon does work with some social engineering though.

I've read that in Sweden alone credit card fraud is a $100 million market, and Sweden has barely 10 mil inhabitants.

You would need more than TOR imo, wouldn't want to get fucked by the authorities.

If I remember correctly the virtual gift cards as gifts using Amazon had hard limits before pre-approval struck.

It's chump change so he's taking a lot of risks for little reward and would probably have an easier time getting the vcc's into crypto.

Just curious, where would you even advertise your products? You couldn't just post it to Craigslist, meet up with some guy and get your money and then ship it to his home address, and you wouldn't want him to send the money to your bank account either. Anonymous bank accounts doesn't exist any longer.

Oh man, back before my autism set in, I went completely ham with these coupons. My favorite were the Xbox live microsoft points cards. I hit up every single CVS and Walgreens in a 25 mile radius trying to get them and I ended up walking away with 10-15 of them ranging in value from $25 all the way up to $60 (only a couple of these). Sold them on eBay.

Yeah, especially since TOR has already been infiltrated by the Fed for years.

Honestly considering this desu
Bro it's like multi billion worldwide.

But yeah it's fucked how common it is.

That's the missing chunk. The separation between vcc and drop shipping implies they can be traced so it's anybody's guess what kind of storefront he's using. If I were to guess I'd say he's doing that step over deep web as well.

I call bullshit, if you actually browsed tor, you would know it's bs.

Noone would buy a half-assed laundered gift card over tor, it just makes no sense.

You gonna blow yourself faster than using stolen stolen cc cvcs and nums, and as there are no names and shit, i guess the article is just a vyser of vice journalist pressured to deadline

The coupon guy got arrested and nobody remembers him :(
pcworld.com/article/227709/article.html

pour one out for old boy

You can do it if you don't mind the risk of getting jailed and having to pay back all the debt you've made. Good luck on that one.
I advice you to buy several shotguns with that 5k a month so there is a shure way to blast your head off when you get caught.

well. he can still come out clean if his business is booming. so he can get jail time, but still be rich in the end if he figures out a proper crypto currency to send his cash to.

I'm in IT but admittedly not the most knowledgeable on staying completely hidden. I have stolen thousands of dollars from phishing and has never been caught, im sure if someone cared enough they could find me. I'm willing to bet that breaking into a WEP or TKIP wifi in a safe location and using that connection to buy cc's and launder them through gift cards could go unnoticed for a long time.

See ya soon

where is this meme from?

Fuck you!
Snitches get stitches.

> teenage with and Audi
> owns a business that makes 5 sales a month
> "gee I wonder where all that money comes from," says his local tax authority

This is just another story Vice made up you fucking gibbon.

Calling bullshit on this "interview" anyone with a tiny bit of knowledge on the subject could have wrote that.

In the past it has crossed my mind about buying a prepaid visa card and going a town over late at night with a scarf around my fave to withdraw the money.

do you have a disposable email address?

This is the only way of going untraced or actually make the cards you've stollen, otherwise there is a trail back.to you

>Implying the local tax authority catches on

You're so dumb dude. This isn't a made up story, there's entire forums of people doing this stuff making $10,000's a month.

This isn't made up

Buying cards and cashing them out at ATMs seems like the train robing of our era.

Seems pretty fucking sketchy though

Not really, just need to know how to make physical cards, least risk method of this thread

why not use the stolen cc to buy bitcoin and tumble that shit? wouldn't that be easier?

Not living in the US, just asking out of curiosity: Don't you need to enter a PIN at the ATM to withdraw cash?

Going there is sketchy

Dont they have cameras?

Getting your pin stolen is trivial.

Skimmers either have a small camera to catch you entering it or have a fake pinpad to capture it

Someone posted a method of getting Toys R Us gift cards by brute forcing the pin:

past3 b1n DOT c0m / UJgCQV7y

It's all trivial.

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Anyone claiming to actually sell cards avoid

Now if you bought info then made them into cards like myself then you're good to go a quick search will help you find the tools you need

i make about $5000 a month from this method while a sit at home and play games/be a neet.

It won't last forever but i'm enjoying while it lasts

i tell my normie friends i work from home making websites

>hasn't been caught.
And probably never will, as there is nothing to catch. As if the kid actually does it, keeps it quiet so as not to get caught, and then GOES TO FUCKING VICE to get the shit off his chest. He did probably get payed to do the interview though.

Also
>vice
wouldn't be surprised if there was no interview in the first place, and the whole thing is just a made-up pile of shit to get more clicks.

And finally, use a fucking archive service, then suck an aids-infested hooker dick and die.

>Go to the effort of finding an exploit to get free shit
>Don't abuse it for profit
>Don't try to get a bug bounty
>Don't even try to get cred by posting it under your hacker name
What motivates this person?

What is it?

It's easy. You just buy dumps then use writer to write cards and emboss them right?

But aren't you sketched out going to stores or using them in atms?

Noone's doubting people aren't capable of doing this, and I doubt anyone would argue it's hard to get away with it, but Vice is very, very far from anything even resembling credible journalism. And the story smells of bullshit.

Pretty much

and i will sometimes travel 15-20 miles to different ATMs its not a big deal for withdrawing say 300 or more at a time

i have used them kinda near my house at the start but after one or two times i started to branch out.

Here's my theory.
>Guy owns a security company.
>Wants to make business with Toys'ya'Us.
>Gets told to fuck off
>Finds an exploit, makes it public anonimously
>Gets hired to fix the shit.

What are the chances of getting ripped buying this shit off some guy on the internet?

Don't you ever feel sketched out? Is it really as simple as doing this 10 times a month for $300 each and making $3k?
I live in canada, should I do this shit? We use chips here though

I saw a few documentaries.
They talked about how serial killers would always start off around where they lived.
Interesting.

Well info is cheap enough

some don't work or will work but only for the next (insert time here)

so you have to rush at some points

i've bought from well known markets and always make sure traders have good feedback

then again they mostly sell other cheap info aswell

i first bought a porn account then papa johns manager discount codes as a tester (no im not joking)

Anyways i don't feel sketched out i just act like i'm taking out my own money out

From my understanding most bank machines read the strip and not the chip

at least where i live with have swip/chip or nfc

but stating the obvious here never use it in a shop you will get fucked instantly.

Really makes you think huh?

Honestly I've been on some of these forums and even registered on a few webshops but I always got scurred when it came down to it.

I was reading on a forum once and people were talking about how they made off with $7000+ instore carding. Is it really that dangerous?

Like what's gonna happen?

Also wouldny it make more sense buying shit online and ordering it to a drop?

Yes ordering to drop or taking from an ATM is the safest way

and in-store carding may be viable depending on what country you're in.

i've never done it myself i always prefer cash then buy it "legit"

At one time i even bought fake money and it worked in nearly every place

i would buy some gum then hand them a 20 so i would get back 19 in real cash

but its all going to shit now with the new type of notes

I even got busted in a subway and just acted surprised and thankfully they believed me

Is it really easy to do this man

You're making me kind of want to now... why is instore so dangerous though?

Any tips for atm? Wear mask? Lel

where did you get that??Where can I buy fkes??

May I ask what a drop is?

Yeah, I've been trying to figure out how he would go about getting an anonymous payment. I'm thinking he just sells the items on bitcoin markets, receives the bitcoins and then tumbles them to anonymize them. but then even still you have to exchange that into cash. Sounds like it'd leave a strong paper trail in my opinion. The thing is though I can't imagine a lot of countries have the resources to root out this type of crime.

>Kid buys credit card off the deepweb, turns them into gift cards to drop ship shit from legitmate eStore.

>falling for the meme

Cracking a pin via brute force would be the way, with computing power these days it wouldn't be a problem, all you need is a modified card reader or even better don't brute force just reverse engineer how the pin is stored and authenticated, but that's more involved.

>MFW the store bans an IP after multiple requests

I would think a drop is getting delivered to somewhere other than your home/work? Maybe a post office or one of them amazon safe box things that I seem to see popping up around my town?

fake notes? I've seen them on .onion sites, never bought any myself though because I'm a noob and don't like the idea of giving my address/details to someone selling sketchy shit on one of them sites.

how does he buy the gift cards though ?
doesnt it track it back to him when he buys them?
Cant the seller see what IP was used?

I imagine he uses a proxy or a random WiFi to authenticate the gift card and then sell them on eBay/Gumtree not sure how he's gone untraced with the money transfers though.

Every time you reconnect your phone to your cellular network you get a new IP.

If you go on different TOR forums they explain step by step how to make money doing this shit. Its retard easy and the only way to get caught is by acting like an idiot.

Seems fake

what forums? My links are mostly dead

Kek. You know tor was made by the Navy right?

This sounds too good to be true. Any suggestions on card readers/writers for this purpose?

Any links?

Fucking shill

What about fixed football matches/sports, anyone tried that?

You could do it in esports.
>Put together a team of like minded individuals.
>Get okay at the game.
>Pay some hacker to make undetected cheats
>Enter in tournaments and win enough games so that you can bet but not enough so that you are invited to a lan.

Yeah cause banks 100% don't disable the card after a couple of attempts.

That's my thoughts. It CANNOT be that simple.

They steal the pin with a lil camera or a fake pinpad you regards.

You know how you heard to cover when you enter your pin? that's not from the guy behind you.

What?
I was going on about cracking the pin for credit cards, not stealing it.

>They steal the pin with a lil camera or a fake pinpad you regards.
>fake pinpad you regards.
>you regards.
Try harder, pleb.

You can't crack it you dinklebottom

People just steal it.

I know that part. And this is NOT the same as OP's and Vice's article are doing / trying.

I was talking about getting pins from the ones purchased online.

They provide pins dude... jesus christ

That's what I was talking about you moron, read the post I quoted.

Where would I go about getting fake Dutch notes?

No one checks any bills at all here, only burgerking has those machines but they don't use them.

Cover face, go at odd/late hour, park car out of camera view, be at different town than where you live . Don't see how that could go wrong.

On a modified cardreader no, it reads the pin off the card, not from the bank.

And the pin is not stored on the card, I can change my pin online anytime.
It would be a stupid design desicion to store the pin on the reader.
The transaction has to be sent to the bank to be verified, too many attempts and the card gets blocked.

This the guy has given numinous info about himself that could get him caught if authoritys care enough to track him down.

He mentioned that his dad was convicted for fraud which reduces the suspect pool very low in a country of 2 million. This how they caught sabu from lulzsec (mentioned he had a previous conviction over IRC)

He mentioned that he donated to charity and takes regular trips to the sunshine coast on top of running E-commerce stores. This narrows the suspect pool down even more.

kek, that's what i thought

Agreed. That's why VICE I have my doubts it's another one of those neat VICE fabricated stories!

I used to buy Starbucks cards off the deep web. $100 cards for $20-$30, but they cost me nothing. I mined brand new CPU-based altcoins on customer computers (I work in IT) and traded them to bitcoin when the rates were favorable. All total I bought $2400 worth of Starbucks cards, at no cost to me.

I wasted the opportunity, though. Instead of reselling them, (I was worried about getting busted) I spent it all myself in a period of about three months. I drank a LOT of coffee, and occasionally I'd tell the barista "I want to buy coffee for everyone in line behind me." It was fun but I didn't get to profit off it.