Do you ever think about the damage your driving is causing to the world?

Please explain how CO2 is dangerous apart from the global warming aspect (that you stated in the OP that you wouldn't invoke).

for every missile launched, for every plane flown, for every farmed cow in a field, for every plant operating, for every boat sailing, for every electrical appliance running, for every fire burning, for every pint of beer being made......

you can be damn sure i'll be driving my car.

Fucking emissions.

Cry at the cars on the road, but let all the farmers and big companies make fucking millions, while all the time we have to drive to work to fund them.

How about the times when fuel was sold as leaded, marketed as anti knock, which resulted in lead pollution on an unbelievable scale, all so the fuel industry could make an even bigger profit, even bribing scientists to denounce the claims that it was causing a problem.

add to that all the normal fags who don't like driving and waste time by even attempting it far out number the people who really have somewhere to be

OP here, the guy you are replying to is not me. I specifically did not want this thread to derail into that debate.

No, because ships pollute way, way, way more than my 1970's two stroke motorcycle ever could.

>Not running your car on alcohol
Killing the world, paying 50% too much for fuel, and not making meaningful power, all at the same time. You should strongly contemplate suicide.

Problem with alcohol is that it's made from food, which puts pressure ona system that's already completely unprepared to feed our entire planet.

The only way we are able to meet the food demands of the modern world is with petrochemical fertilizers.

Let that sink in for a minute. The oil runs out, or gets really expensive, we deplete the land in a couple years and all starve.

Some times. Then I get distracted by how shiny my car is and go for a drive.

OP here, I do the same.

Fuck you dude, I am still thinking about this today. It is like when my friend told me I was the winning sperm and I spent a week thinking about all the implications of that.

i used care but to then i stopped

Factories are 10000x worse than every car on the planet put together. Now fuck off.

Clean petrol engine, modern exhaust, low capacity, fairly economical driving.
Honestly, the most damage I do to the environment is running over dumbass pigeons in the wee hours of the morning who don't get out the way in time.
And it's all paid off by my job keeping cars off the road by delivering shit to people with efficient diesel vans.

I'm far from the worst thing to ever happen to this planet.

Methanol can be made very easily from wood.

Not really, even thought I'm running a header back straight pipe

Sometimes I think about it for a little while but then I just rev the shit out of my straight piped v8

>things Hillary Clinton tells herself before going to sleep at night

No not really

We only need to keep the environment around long enough to catalogue the chemical composition of every living thing for the purposes of medicine, weapons, and manufacturing.

Then we're free to wipe it all out and turn the planet into a giant farm

>but muh biodiversity, it's so essential
Oh yeah all those hundred year old farms are dead set on becoming infertile wastelands. Humans can manage a functioning system just fine. Having that system benefit more than just humans and the few generalist species lucky enough to share our requirements is a massive waste of resources. And with GMO tech, we'll be able to maintain decent outputs even if the earth gets hotter before we can get off our asses and start recapturing greenhouse gases or putting mirrors in orbit.

And climate aside, the future is multi-story indoor hydroponic farming. Quadruple your output per acre.

kek

No, becuase I won't be here long and I don't have any progeny that will suffer becuase of it.

And in that fact I'm probably polluting less than the billions of people that are having kids.

On that note, you know what would be the best way of insuring that earth stays clean, natural and unmolested? Population reduction, in realistic terms there should only be at most a billion on this planet for things to be left pristine, but as it sits were facing 10times that in a decade.

Why does everyone worry about "our entire planet" when the vast majority of the population does absolutely nothing but exist in tiny self-serving systems that haven't made progress towards expansion and prosperity in centuries, including some groups of europeans?

You can talk about all of humanity when all of humanity is being useful to the rest of humanity. Help or starve is the motto of every civilization, now, why not meta-civilization?

Then reduce the population, quit giving tax bonuses to people who can't keep their legs closed.

most of the population problems are coming from places like china and india, not rednecks in america

Then let them starve, point still stands here in the states we give people money to HAVE children when they grossly out consume those who don't.

they out-consume, but they also contribute more in terms of raw labor and potential innovation

we're actually not doing enough to encourage people who stand a higher chance of genuine contribution to reproduce, or enough to encourage that reproduction to bear more than mere handiwork

and we can't because someone, somewhere, would call it racist when asians and jews got most of the benefits, followed by whites and everyone else and everyone else would call it hitler shit on principle

I remember having this book read to my class in school.

>>but they also contribute more in terms of raw labor and potential innovation

Hardly those raising children have to call in more often and are overall less productive at their respective jobs. I've seen it first hand.

That same reason is why women are "paid less" overall than men.

Smart people typically don't have time for children, nor do they see the opportunity to have them as a boon, that's why they're not having kids.

>or doing enough to encourage that reproduction to bear more than mere handiwork

If you're statistically likely to produce good children, the state should help you with more than a tiny fucking tax break. Something along the lines of longer and more valuable hours at school while all the kids from impoverished, historically underachieving bloodlines go home early.

Yes, I do think (and feel bad) about it, OP.

Although that hasn't stopped me from running catless since 2005 (only on 3x 2.0L's and a 1.8L though, I still have a cat on my 3.6L [for now]).

Consider, for a moment, all of the airplanes (turbines lol) and boats (1,800L PER cylinder is not considered massive) which likely have little-to-no emissions-controlling-equipment.......Now consider my EFI 1.8L again.

>multistory hydroponic
Quintuple your cost per acre!

But the OP is a debatable subject.

we also need to consider how flat out inessential most domestic flights are when rail would be more efficient

why the fuck do you need to get from portland to seattle in a couple hours if you're just sightseeing fuck off and take a train

it pays for itself once you have the infrastructure for reclaiming human sewage as fertilizer and generally insuring that very few resources leave the supply chain and end up part of the planet again

Do you ever think about the damage your breathing is causing to the world?

I'm not talking about global warming, I am talking about carbon dioxide from your lungs and chemicals your body uses that inevitably contaminate the environment.

This guys gets it. Most of the population of Africa could disappear, and the world would only improve, because they contribute next to nothing.

There is a train that goes from seattle to portland.

Along with the money, you need technical expertise from people who know how to farm that way. You cant really have farm hands and Mexicans poking around in your hyper-sensitive, human shit laden tomato farm can you? It doesn't make sense from a labor and money standpoint. The time it would take to pay for itself wouldnt be worth the initial cost.

humans are the most destructive thing on this planet, way more than any force of nature.
the "every human life is valuable" meme has to stop, there's 7 billion of us, that's plenty.
just because we have a slightly higher level of conciousness than an ape doesn't mean squat in the grand scheme of things.

Just get a Ford Ecoboost/v8

And who the fuck takes it instead of the plane?

fucking hipsters that's who

>all life is valuable meme

Humans only say this because of their fucked up overly general appreciation for aesthetics and vague sense of empathy

>it's pretty don't get rid of it! hurrrrr
>it has two forward facing eyes i feel it should not be destroyed! hurrrr

self serving life is the most prosperous life. do you think bacteria care about you? you are a fucking slave to bacteria.

that hippie shit book wanted to make me write a fun ending. Is there a market for anti-kids joke books?

>The next day, a giant fucking truck carrying coal and toxic waste tipped over and fell into the Wumps' only lake, the retards actually drank that shit
>"wump target practice, only 99 cents", the sign read, as someone soon had them all on a locked farm tourist attraction
>the last wump could no longer walk as the toxic waste had mutated its legs off, it saw the red dot focusing on its body, and it slowly closed its eyes
>the sniper missed, gave up, and went home
>the owner thought there were no more wumps as he closed up shop forever
>the last wump unable to move away cried and then said "op is a faggot"

do you think we'd knowingly sacrifice a human life to save some endangered rhino or something?
anyway fuck bacteria, most of them are cunts. the good ones can stay though.

I'm pretty sure it means everything, user. Sadly, Hitler took Eugenics too far and spoiled it for everyone. If somebody had just popped him in '39 or so maybe by now we would be rid of all the niggers, muslims and gypsies but instead the people who are choosing not to reproduce are exactly the people who should be. Everything's ass backwards and all the resources are going to get consumed before we're able to get off this rock so we're going to have to transition into AI by having kids with our waifus instead which is so fucking lame compared to how it SHOULD be.

There are endangered animals that get armed escort lol

I think people who complain about overpopulation would

Population utilization, not reduction, is the right way to go about things. There are people on this planet doing literally nothing because the white west views the world like a collection of little zoos.

>oh these animals are so cute
>let's let them have their natural habitat it's so precious wow
>but we'll intervene if they fight that would be ugly
>it would be horrible if someone "domesticated" all these neat little apes
>UNLESS THEY BIT US FUCK THEM

>We should judiciously thin the herds
Sounds fine

The herds represent expended resources that are a pain to get back because they grew up in an open system. At least apply a little forced labor.

Imagine a world where you get two skylines for $5 each because manufacturing and mining are in overdrive thanks to the wonders of mass slavery. Also, you're probably a slave yourself, but if you have a job you're already used to it.

It's too late for that they'd just snapchat about their plight and boom freedom. Like that little dune coon in the ambulance. I guess we could put them in petting zoos until they stop being cute?

Google "catalytic converter" and fuck off, so sick of enviro normies who know piss all about cars

Also
>ethanol

b-b-b-but muh CO2
cars are EVIL and SCARY

I recall a recent event in which the endangered animal had the potential to hurt a niglet.

They shot that animal.

So there you have it, the life of a niglet (one of a large litter) is worth more than an endangered animal.