Washington Veeky Forums Meet

first timer here, might show up if trucks are welcome. that lot is pretty busy, how do we tell who is who?

my kik is sedative tick

welcome hommie, bring youre truck

cool, if my friends and I wind up not flying out to the islands for the day, i'll probly be there. trying to enjoy the last few weeks of prime flying weather.

i'll be the fag with the 2 mile long taco

im house sitting and trying to do a head gasket replacement that day so i might not go up cus i made the drive to kavanagh on sunday for family. but i want to get in contact with more people into cars who live around washington

i've been threatening to go the last few times, but something has always come up.
I also pretty much only ever work on airplanes, so i wouldnt exactly make a great conversationalist for the average gear head.

Crap, me and my friends are going go-karting on saturday, so I won't be able to go. I'd love to, but can't. I'll keep an eye out for the next one though.

>but something has always come up.

When they ask, SOMEthing came up and you needed to go to Cabela's for some stuff.... Then you met some people there and went out to do something with them!

>how do we tell who is who?
There will probably be some people out in the lot who didn't walk into the store. I can see it now. You approach them and say "Are you from Veeky Forums?" and they all respond "Yeah!" It turns out they are all Oprah fans about to head out to her habitat for humanity house raising project.

>oprah fans
>at cabelas
and you get a gun, and you get a gun, and you get a gun, everyone gets a gun!

we'll just group up on the left sidde of the store, its pretty easy to spot since its cabelas and most of us arent in trucks

Do I have to have a nice/cool car or can I show up in a manual firebird that I'm still learning since I drove auto for eight years?

Nope, shitboxes welcome as well as noon drivers, as as you can not run into any of us.

I can't find your kik to add you into the chat. Is there a typo?

Well fuck, I work all weekend.

>truck trying to keep up in the twisties on still stock suspension

I get pretty hektik in this thing, but that'd be funny as shit to see.

Do i have to have a feel the bern bumper sticker if i want to sit at the cool kids table?

Bern victims get to give us 60% of all gas they purchase

>I show up in a manual firebird that I'm still learning
Sounds great. Just don't show up on a bicycle!

>Bern victims get to give us 60% of all gas they purchase

Bern was far far more popular in WA than Ms Corruption. But the worry of "wasted votes" sank in and so Ms Corruption won the primary. If anything, Bern victims are real victims of the system.

We're all victims of the system m8
Nothing will change without burning the shit to the ground. But who's gonna bite the hand that feeds them with foodbux and free shit

Go back to /pol/ this is for automotive shitposting

>you mean the lack of shit in the air?
No, in the city, it is less green, so the atmospheric oxygen is diluted with other man-made gases. Thus the percentage of oxygen will be lower. In addition, there are so many things using up oxygen in the city that the percentage oxygen is reduced further. Out in the forest, the trees make some oxygen but they are slow growing, so the amount they make is small. But the fast growing undergrowth sequesters a lot of carbon and releases oxygen, so the percentage oxygen is noticeably higher than in the city.

I remember going out to visit a friend at his home in the wooded peninsula area. There was a walking path thru the undergrowth that we used and which he sort of made with a portable weedeater long ago. I could feel the oxygen boost.

Picture from the Meet that drove around the twisty roads of Mount Rainier National Park.

ill have to take my combustion analyzer out innawoods some time and see if there is a measurable change in O2 or co2 up there
the absence of particulate and byproducts is far more noticeable than anything to me

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>the absence of particulate and byproducts is far more noticeable than anything to me

I live up on one of the tallest hillsides and I can see the smog rolling in from the ocean horizon early in the morning (5AM). It's been that way since the 1990's. That over the horizon smog on the wind flowing eastwards is clearly from China. It's not from Seattle. It forms a dark layer below me almost like I was floating above wispy thin clouds in a 777. Only in this case it is noxious yellowish brown pollution that china saved money by dumping onto the ocean and north america.

By the time it swirls around the ocean, all that chinese smog basically no longer has a waxing and waning period coinciding with china's daytime factory and car pollution schedules. It has become 24/7 in terms of even distribution.

Since the majority of the smog seems to like hanging low to the ground, being up in the mountain areas is going to have "more" oxygen level than down near sea level where the chinese smog dilutes the normal natural WA levels of oxygen.

But I am curious about your oxygen measurement results. Please bring it and test the woods' oxygen level? Or does it need 120 volt power? Do you have an inverter or do I bring an inverter? Hmm, where did I put that inverter? It's been a long while since I used it since my laptop's power supply also has a 12VDC input for convenient car use and less waste of power by converting 12V up to 120VAC only to convert it back down again.

Well, I will try to show up.

What'll you be driving?

It's battery powered and senses to the tenth of a percent, not being in a combustion stack might keep it from reading right, but it's worth a try some time.
I'm coming on a bike so I doubt I'll have room since I don't have any luggage on it yet. But if I take it to a meet sometime we can sniff test all the cars for shits

If it doesn't sense outgassing from a foil-coated mylar bag, you could swirl the bag around to capture an air sample upwind from the humans. Then stick the probe into it. That way the sensor won't detect CO2 from our breathing or hydrocarbons from humans wearing perfumes (essential oils, light aromatics) or colognes (alcohols, light aromatics).

Picture found from postings in Veeky Forums. While it claims to be for china, without skyscraper buildings to identify a city, it could be from elsewhere. What's interesting is that without a lot of swirling wind interaction between the lower and upper atmosphere, the smog stays close to the ground as the coriolis force (earth rotation) ground level wind moves it along eastwards.

either an oldsmobile or another oldsmobile

So are we driving on dirt or nah?

I'm going to pass. I don't feel like driving from Olympia to Oso tomorrow, when I have to drive to Corvallis OR and back today.

Trying to decide what wheels to have on? Lol

Don't be a bitch.

What a weeny

Yes haha

We'll have another meet closer to you area next time, we were thinking the Olympic peninsula or maybe ocean shores or something

>15699032
Lol, can't handle some distance dude?

Aww cmon man, don't dip out on us for some bitch reason

You better show up in your Mazda bro

>So are we driving on dirt or nah?

No landslides on those roads. Not like the northern washington mountain roads that do have landslides and need seasonal closings to be repaired.

Not really worried about landslides, i just don't want to get a puncture on my summer tires. They dont have a lot of grip in the dirt either

>next time, we were thinking the Olympic peninsula or maybe ocean shores or something

Hopefully that will include one of the two large car museums.

> Distance
I've done ~15K miles this month, and I'm not a professional driver. Or at least, not a truck driver, I suppose.

> Mazda
No, I own a meme machine. 4th gen SHO derivative.

T minus 11:44:35

>came down with the flu over the last day
noooo, I wanted to do things today
fucking shit I can't even walk straight
have fun for me, guys

have a couple shots of straight whiskey and kick back for the day

Already started with brandy

good man, rest up and catch the next meet

Be sure to post some pictures after you guys get back!

so bummed
maybe next time I'll have a cool car I can be proud of instead of a beat up 90's shitbox with 300k miles on it

totally

>Be sure to post some pictures after you guys get back!
I just got back home at 7:16PM after the initial Meet time at 10:30AM at Cabella's in Marysville. We had a varied adventures which included quite a bit more than just driving. It's 7:17PM now, but one of the Meet members is still on his way back home to Spokane after getting dinner and a little lucky fortune at a restaurant in Granite Falls.

Strangely enough, when we were parked before going in to the restaurant, there was money on the ground. But everyone played it cool. Nah, it's not worth my time to pick it up. Go get it. Nope, too small for me. Finally, to avoid the money lying there abandoned like some loli waif out in the cold, someone decided to take the money in from the cold and give it a good home.

I learned to dislike roundabouts in Seattle, but the multi-junction roundabouts in Snohomish County aren't bad at all. They're not quite a complicate as the roundabout in the picture.

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Woops it put it in wrong, sedativetick one word

I had quite a bit of fun at this Meet. Drove on roads that I normally don't go on. It's good to get out of the comfort zone now and then. Things that happened today:

a. We drove by the Kangaroo and australian animal petting zoo but didn't stop by.

b. We drove by the main road going by the Oso tragedy. Years later and they have not yet recovered.

c. Drove on a macadam-like road. It wasn't a pure gravel road as it used both rock and binder. It was compacted fairly hard, but of course, dust clouds came up. Almost everyone had flaps or guards on both front and back so no problem.

d. Drove through Darrington and stopped to get snacks (no WT Snacks though) and top tier gas at the Shell. The Darrington/Arlington community zone was one of the eight finalists in the "America’s Best Communities competition" as announced in April 2016.

town.darrington.wa.us/

economicalliancesc.org/arlington-and-darrington-are-finalists-in-americas-best-communities-competition/

That community area is full of Americana type enthusiasm. There are bike trails along the highways and they seem to be regularly cleaned and free of glass and debris. I know because I looked hard for glass and trash and the bike paths were clear. Many houses had american flag poles or flags in the windows. There was even an interesting bicycle rider on the highway. He rode a bit on the white lane marker line though since his bike was being pulled hard by his huge sail area. I drove on the noise marker (which I dislike) to make a buzzing noise as I came up and he went back into his bike lane. Making America Better one town at a time.

e. There were lots of motorcycle groups riding the mountain areas too. But only two adventurous bicycle riders going up the mountain areas this time. This was unlike Mount Rainier which had a lot of very fit bicycle riders.

f. I had a nice icey cold shower from a huge ice cave. Had to do it just to say I did it.

If I wasn't out of town on vacation, I could've went. Sounds like it was a blast

Pic of the ice caves

I don't think my car has ever been this dirty....

Hold on guys, I have the best picture by far.

kek

bike guy

awesome, thanks for finding that.

Besides that small cave, there was a huge ice cave on the main path straight ahead at the fork intersection after the bridge that was all aluminum except for the steel bolts. One of the midspan bolts had been subjected to indentation hardness tests.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indentation_hardness

The cave with the giant opening had a waterfall inside. That was amazing. The inside of the cavern was constantly raining down icey cold drops like a good rain.

I went in somewhere between 50 feet to 100 feet before I realized my stupidity. There was so much water falling it was only a matter of time before the many tons of ice forming the huge roof arch will fall down. I was afraid of a chunk of ice falling down onto me too. I ran out so fast I almost twisted my ankle once I realized the danger of the main giant ice cave.

How wide is the giant ice cave arch? The base of the arch can fit four lanes of I-5. That is how massive tall ice arch is. It's pretty impressive when you are right there and it is raining on you.

I really did want to get close to the waterfall, but didn't dare go that far in. It's August and sort of impressive the ice cave still exist at so low an elevation.

At various places along the trail, there were bubbling springs shooting water out of the ground at a good rate. The water was very clear so you really could see the clean water coming out of the ground if you manage to peer thru all the plant growth. At watery places like that, the trail is on top of thick sturdy cedar beams just like a small boardwalk.

I paid the $5 mandatory fee for parking and using the ice cave trail head. There was no WA parks permit required at this location though. That means the fee was not covered by the permit. Some other trail heads required the WA permit to even be able to park your vehicle. There were lots of campers with tents and that requires the permit of course.

parks.state.wa.us/167/Discover-Pass-Fees

>forgot about it for a week and missed it
fug
at least I have this road trip planned

>12.5 hours

it's over 4 days
it'd be pretty retarded to drive around the olympics non stop

Fuck, you guys went through granite? You probably drove right past me while I was unconscious in bed.

>you guys went through granite?

We even ate dinner in a Granite Falls restaurant before splitting up at the end of the day.

I think that wok gave me the shits.

That's one of the Ice Cave trail signs is probably needed. There were quite a few people that brought their dogs along on the trail hike to the ice cave. A few people went pretty far into the cave since they had been there before and were wearing raincoats and had umbrellas.

That angle of your picture shows you took the low road (shorter) to the cave. I took the long road above the ice field which is now rocks in your picture due to melt. That long way faced head on into the main cave opening. So I would have come from the far right background of your picture along the plane of the ice wall.

I guess I was the only one that took the longer vigorous huffing and puffing trail. I wanted to go to the backside with the falls but feared "crevasse". Walking on top of the ice meant I could suddenly fall through the ice ceiling down down down down down. I decided not to compete for a Darwin Award.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_Awards

>I don't think my car has ever been this dirty....

Despite the dust from following others on the macadam, there was surprisingly little dust inside my Malibu. It has that big wide intake grill area that lets air into a chamber in front of a wall that has two fans that blow air thru the radiator. Because the whole bottom of the chamber is open and there is grill and sturdy (flexible) air dam under the front fascia (in front of the chamber's open bottom), as the car moves forward, it creates a huge suction that pulls the air downwards VERY strongly. Thus all the air entering the front chamber is strongly drawn downwards. That flings most of the dirt and water downwards.

Objects with mass such as water and dirt are pulled down strongly while clean air remains higher up. It is similar to the Dyson (and other brands) vacuum cleaner that uses inertia to separate most of the air and dirt to eliminate the need for a bag. I'm glad GM put into play their version of "dyson" to separate out most of the dirt and water to keep it from entering the engine compartment.

Opened the hood in my garage and an hour later the engine was cool enough to clean. A light vacuuming with a brush attachment on my shopvac removed most of the dust. What's good about a vac is that it also sucks dust out of braid and looms. I opened up the air filter box and sucked dirt off the air filter and from the insides of the box. I then quickly wiped up the rest of the dust with a damp paper towel. Fast and easy is what I like.

>No landslides on those roads. Not like the northern washington mountain roads that do have landslides and need seasonal closings to be repaired.

Driving back down, there was several very short sections of road that weren't paved. I guess those parts wash away every year and get repaired.

it hoses off in like 2 minutes. i spent about 5 min washing and drying the bike off and its back to showroom shine

That's what my car looks like an hour after washing it.

I live on a dirt/gravel road.

I use a soap dispenser sprayer attached to the water hose and a tufted microfiber pad on a pole to reach the middle of the room.

I spray a generic cleaner on wheels to loosen grime. I then rinse off most of the dirt with gentle water spray. Then use a stronger partial jet to drive off more clingy dirt on the car and wheels. Now I soap the car all over to help soften tree sap. Now I use microfiber pole to gently remove the sap and dirt (never touching the wheels). The constant flow of fresh soapy water removes the grit and grime without redepositing or scratching. I let only the weight of the pole be the downward force of the microfiber on the roof.

Stubborn tree sap that had not been washed off in a long time is stubborn. So it takes two passes. 2 oz of car shampoo in the dispenser lasts for 3.5 passes since I like to hold down the trigger a lot.

I do it this way because it is fast and easy and I don't need to keep coming back to buckets. I just clean as I walk around without ever stooping for a bucket. It really is much less annoying. And the grit is aways washed away by fresh spray. No soapy dirty gritty water is re-used.

I find the two bucket (or even 3 bucket) system to be incredibly annoying. Not only the stooping, but the need to waste time walking back to the bucket to get rid of grit on the mitt sucks.

I have no need of a power washer.

>I live on a dirt/gravel road.
After it is washed, use a static duster like I used at the Meet on everyone's dust covered car windows and side mirrors. It's fast and easy and cheap. Did I mention it is fast and easy? If not, I will say it again. It is fast and easy. After you leave your dirt road on the way somewhere, just stop, brush off quickly, and be back on road driving to wherever without the dust coat. The one I have was purchased in like 1994 and is still lasting and fluffy.

Search for static dust brush at both wal-mart and amazon. You'll find a big fluffy blue one. You can have most wal-mart.com items sent to the store to be picked up with no shipping charge.

To clean, roll the stuck between the palms of two hands. The brush will twirl and the static causes the dust to fly off since both the dust and brush have at that moment the same electrostatic charge polarity. Like repels like and the dust flies off. I twirl inside a hefty lined trash can so the dust stays in there instead of getting on my clothes.

Don't push hard on the car surface with the static dust brush. Pretty much only the very ends of the brush need to touch the car as you swish back and forth over the surface. The touch is thus feathery light and lighter than from an ostrich feather brush (which by the way is not anywhere as effective).

Don't use the static dust brush on wheels or greasy things. Good thing it washes clean easily. I have not washed mine in over 10 years after the first time I greased it up and had to wash it with soap. Why 10 years? Well, as the static brush collects dust and dirt, any grease or grime on the brush prefers to stick to that dust/dirt instead. Thus, the dirt/dust CLEANS my brush of oils for me. That is nice. And don't use it on hot surfaces or it will melt fast like cotton candy.

I do that every morning and night, but each time a car drives by it leaves another layer. of dust.
Thanks for the advice, but I got it handled.

I did the same exact thing but I did end up taking this route yesterday instead. I was out there for about 10 hours total I think. It was pretty shitty up until around Lake Crescent and then it was fine the rest of the way. If you've never been to Ruby Beach I recommend a quick stop there. The road from where you get off of 101 to 12 is one of the funnest stretches I've done around here. Hopefully I can make the next meet.

Looks like no one wanted to miss the beach stop. That's quite a giant loop though. A south end Meet would have the following considerations so far?

-=@=- Ruby Beach (western coast)
is named for the ruby like crystals in the beach sand. There are passes and fees for this national park.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Beach
nps.gov/olym/planyourvisit/visiting-kalaloch-and-ruby-beach.htm
nps.gov/olym/planyourvisit/fees.htm

-=@=- Hurricane Ridge (Port Angeles)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Ridge

-=@=- Lemay Car Museum (Tacoma Dome area)
Approx 350 cars of significance to car culture.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America's_Car_Museum

-=@=- Lemay Family Car Collection (Spanaway)
Has about 500 cars on display. Probably the best time to visit is during the annual Lemay Car Festival on the last saturday of August (ha ha ha)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America's_Car_Museum
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LeMay_Car_Show

I didn't see any ruby crystals out there but it was a very picturesque beach. Lots of fallen trees, outcrops, cliffs, and dense brush. I have the Discover Pass and at no point was it indicated that I needed one or that there was a need for a day pass to access the beach. If you take dogs keep in mind that the entrance to the beach is blocked by fairly large logs (pic related), my corgi couldn't clear them so I had to carry her over them. It's very rocky and the sand is hard packed. It reminds me a lot of Korea's southern or Japan's western coastline. The ever present mist, low clouds, and rough waves really made the place feel extra comfy for me. Keep in mind that there are no amenities after Forks, so plan accordingly.

Port Angeles seems alright but I didn't spend much time there. I was really rushing to get to Lake Crescent so I probably spent all of ten minutes in that town.

>Tacoma Dome for any reason
>ever
Just don't fucking bother. Traffic is never not backed up to 132 and the area around it is hobo/hood rat central. The museum is nice and there's a good restaurant near by, Stanley and Seafort's, but it's very expensive. If you're willing to make the trip short trip to Federal Way there's a place called Takaya Ramen. I would very highly recommend them. It's cheap and the food is spot on.

Spanaway isn't terrible from what I've seen but I haven't spent much time out there.

>Pic of the ice caves
Do you have a picture facing right into the opening of the biggest ice cave?

I meant eastern coast

>I have the Discover Pass and at no point was it indicated that I needed one or that there was a need for a day pass to access the beach.

As one of the strangeneses of the Ice Cave trailhead, there was a very small sign and a tiny deposit box. It said the $5 payment was required for use of the trailhead and described the purposes of the fee. Apparantly there are at least two rangers that keep moving from location to location to inspect and clean the place. One ranger spent some time annoyingly trying to retrieve trash someone had tossed HIGH UP into a ledge area because they were too lazy to go the 45 feet to the trashcan.

Did anyone else pay? I took the time to pay and went back to the car to hang up the thing on my mirror. The lot was almost always complete full of cars and mine was the only one with the "paid" stub other than one other car.

As a result of paying, I fell behind the Meet group who went ahead. They must have taken the shortcut since I never ran into them again as I took the normal route to the Ice Cave. Was I punished for paying?

No and it struck me as very strange too considering almost everywhere else in Washington seems to require a pass or payment. When I was coming up on the beach the only thing they had out on the road was a sign indicating where the beach was. Parking is a little wonky and depending on what you drive a little tight. There isn't a visitors center or anything else, just a pisser on the right as you come in on the entrance of the trail down to the beach. Other than that there's not much else man-made out there.

>it struck me as very strange too considering almost everywhere else in Washington seems to require a pass or payment
Probably not strange for Ruby Beach because it's not much more than a scenic view type of spot.

The frequent rough weather throwing huge logs 100 feet or more up the beach would shatter any piers or boardwalks on or close to the beach. It's not a swimming beach due to rocks under the waves cutting you up or bashing your body in the surf. No one would want to live out there when the storms come rolling in. That place would become "Terror Beach".

including you, i think only 2 of us paid. we didn't even notice the tiny little pay area until we had already finished the hike. smallest bills i had on me were 20's so i would have had trouble anyway.

oh well, i pay my taxes. the state gets their money's worth out of me.

ooh, ruby beach.

not part of this group, but i drove my MK3 supra up there after an engine replacment and got some pretty great pictures

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MFW i listened to rush the entire time here.

god i love that car (After i tightened the torque bolts to 75)

This one kinda

ITT: Faggots.

>I do that every morning and night, but each time a car drives by it leaves another layer. of dust.

Windbreak hedge to be an air filter against the roadway. Unlike a wall that has dust roll over it due to air surge effect, a hedge lets air flow thru it so the dust often doesn't roll over it because air pressure never builds up to cause the air to roll over the hedge. So the dust is filtered out by the hedge as the air flows thru it.

Basically, both ends of the ice cave were open. At the far end if you walk thru the cave is a waterfall. While the opening of the cave may seem small at only 3 stories high, the arch is actually pretty wide horizontally. The ice doesn't touch the ground for a pretty wide area. So that means the actual arch in some areas is as wide is 8 lanes of I-5 and as small as 3 lanes of I-5 in some areas. It's those small areas that are under great compression stress because they are what seems to be holding the whole archway up in the opening entrance area.

It groans and makes noise occasionally. Some people were so scared they never went closer than several hundred feet. Really. I saw some people go only halfway over on the field of rocks before they turned back. I guess they were scared of any avalanche of "ice boulders" that comes rolling out if the whole thing collapses.

If someone had a radio-controlled drone camera, they could have flown it thru the cave to the waterfall as line of sight exists.

It looks like a whole new area with the sun out. When I went it looked really dark and gloomy.

Going to have to check out that ice cave, looks pretty interesting.