Im a freshman in college and my parent's are trying to buy me a car cause I can't go anywhere without a ride.
I was pushing for a baseline Hyundai Elantra because that's what Veeky Forums suggested over the shitty Civic
They are afraid to shell out $17g's on a Hyundai car because they claim it's resell is dependent on the country of manufacture so they are really leaning toward Corolla LS
However, now they found a Slightly used 2011 Chevy Malibu with nearly 10,000 miles or so for $12,000-$13,000. The original owner was a millionaire who had nothing really useful to do with it so it just stayed in their garage for several years until deciding to sell it.
Now I'm researching and it says that the specific model and year 2011 of the Chevy Malibu had recalls and transmission fuck ups and I immediately warned my parents, but the dealer said it had 0 recalls or some bullshit obv trying to rid the car fast. So they're saying a Corolla is a good bet otherwise they don't want to buy an Elantra and say they could get something way better if they're paying close to $20,0000 Ultimately I just want a good car with a great sound system and isn't fucking archaic to the point where I'm forced to connect my phone to jack to play music on a shitty sound system. Can Veeky Forums help me out?
Why can't we have such simple interiors in european cars? Just position the shifter on the steering column and voila, it's gonna gently say "I'm a normal car".
Blake Edwards
That's an impala m9
Parker Jackson
Jej my bad, they told me three cars: Toyota Corolla LS, Chevy Impala 2011, and Chevy Malibu
Cameron James
That's an Impala you dipshit. I'm actually driving one as a rental right now and they're surprisingly comfy, also as said the interiors are very well done; simple and clean but not really lacking.
Eli Ward
Oh my fucking god read the post above u
Hudson Cruz
Oh my fucking god you type like a 13 year old girl. That was posted 10 seconds before mine which means it wasn't even visible by the time I hit submit.
Carter Lewis
Just get a dik thats what ur gonna end up riding anyway lol
Dominic Butler
Haha so funny, yes I am a girl. Your sex life must be fun
Ian Anderson
That is not a Chevrolet Malibu. That is a Chevrolet Impala. No. They are not the same. No. They do not share any parts. They look similar and that's it. They even rode on different platforms. The Impala rode on the W-body platform while the Malibu rode on the Epsilon platform.
Aside from that, the Impala is bulletproof.
Also, only morons buy Hyundais with their reliability.
eeny meany miny mo. Can't really go wrong with any of them.
Owen Wood
>Can't really go wrong with any of them
Well the 3.5 is garbage, the 3.9 is far better so besides that small point yes mostly true. Surprisingly large aftermarket for W body drive trains too
Wyatt Thomas
>Well the 3.5 is garbage, the 3.9 is far better so besides that small point yes mostly true. The 3.5 and 3.9 are 90% identical. The 3.9 is just a bigger 3.5L. They're equally reliable.
Colton Cook
My mom has an Elantra, it's pretty shit desu. Your parents are right in getting a Toyota over a Hyundai, their reliability is well known and for that reason their value holds steady (pic related).
My mom's Elantra has all kinds of wiring issues and has had multiple sensor issues that are quite premature. She's only had it for about a year. Also sometimes it makes strange noises while driving that aren't explainable by the dealer.
Thomas Morgan
>Surprisingly large aftermarket for W body drive trains too Not if you have the 3.5 or 3.9L with the variable valve timing like the Impala. Aftermarket support for them is virtually nonexistent.
Please leave with your consumer reports trash. That's PREDICTED reliability based on numbers they pulled from their ass.
JD Powers is far superior as its based on problems that ACTUALLY happened over a 3 year period.
Noah Cruz
Virtually nonexistent eh? I know from experience this is false, but here's so you believe me
>computer tuning capability means there are headers, cams, and other performance parts available No it doesn't. That JUST ECU tuning. Beyond that, there really isn't much.
Eli Wood
Here's a better idea. Buy an XV40 2006-2012 ES350 for the same price with maybe 50-60k miles on it and get a way better car for the same money.
It's nothing but a dressed up Camry so parts will be cheap if you do your research and buy Camry parts where possible. You can get a pretty decent one for anywhere between 13k to 20k. Most of them have hands-free so Bluetooth will let you play music from your phone.
Easton Bell
except it lost comparison tests against a BUICK. Let that sink in for a bit.
Liam Evans
Tbqh that's a good looking Buick
Anthony Lewis
They're all FF shitboxes. I would rather get a Toyota or Honda because GM was utter shit for so long.
Michael Foster
Just ECU tuning? Wanna know how I know you didn't click on anything?
Caleb Young
Literally no one cares here. If you actually want something decent consider a used 3 series, but judging by how Bluetooth is your main feature of interest it could be out of your budget.
It's based on the Camry. XV is the Camry, XX is the Avalon. All of them are on the K platform though so they aren't all that different.
Connor Reyes
Could i get a decent car or pickup with manual transmission, RWD, and at least 30 MPG with 5-6k? I have a 87 4runner, and with 14 MPG it doesn't handle my 30 mile highway commute to work very well.
Mason Ramirez
Either an E36 or E46 3 series with manual. It's reasonably practical but I wouldn't expect to rip hektik skidz with one because you'll probably have less than 300 horsepower.
Grayson Baker
HP isn't a big deal. It'll be my first vehicle I'll buy. My Dad got the 4runner before I started driving it, and didn't like it so I got it. It's an autotragic.
Nathaniel Hall
E46 3 series will be fine. E46 330i should be in your price range. Just be ready for maintenance costs because used cars inevitably need work that the previous owner didn't give a shit about.
Andrew Fisher
That's what I was about to ask about. Do they have the special tool bullshit that makes it a pain to work on? Do I have to go to a stealership for simple repairs?
Justin Ortiz
The E46 is fairly simple, nothing complicated. But you still need BMW parts which means it's going to be more expensive.
Jace Jenkins
>vanos
Adam Evans
Internet searches are only bringing up automatics around me. I'll keep an eye out though for some not listed online. Thanks for the suggestion!
Hudson Bailey
>great sound system >Bluetooth
>aux Jack >shitty
Oh my lord I am just fucking dying over here. Thanks op, that was a good laugh. But nah. Your ideas about car audio are completely ass backwards.
Ignoring the fact that stock audio in cars is always shit, connecting to the stereo via aux cable is better than connecting via Bluetooth. With Bluetooth streaming audio your audio files are reencoded to a lossy format and compressed, resulting in worse sound quality. With a wired connection, there is none of this reencoding and compression. Beyond Bluetooth vs aux there's still aux vs USB, but at that point it pretty much depends on your devices DACs.
But I imagine none of this matters to you anyways cause you just want to play your Spotify without those pesky wires getting in the way, right?
Landon Powell
>just manifold spacers, throttle bodies, E85 retrofit kit, MAF's and thermostats wow. big selection
Isaac Garcia
>no. They do not share any parts. >I know nothing about gm >the post
Joseph Sanchez
>being offered a free, highly based corolla and not immediately accepting
you will regret buying GM trash every day.
Adam Miller
stay away from that piece of shit
dont fall in love with such a worthless pile of shit
god, buy a used focus instead
David Sanders
I wouldn't recommend that for a first car for a college student to be honest. Buy a cheaper, generic Corolla that is mechanically sound. Your car will get the shit beaten out of it in college parking lots. Just stick to A-B reliability, and something that will depreciate minimally and then can be sold to the next college student in line when you're done with it.
Impala or Malibu sound like decent choices, but will take a big shit in depreciation if you care about that at all.
Nathaniel Butler
I'm not going to college. I'm an electrician.
Michael Cox
>Im a freshman in college and my parent's are trying to buy me a car cause I can't go anywhere without a ride.
Go to local CL Pick something about 1k without salvage title. save $10k
Kevin James
My B, thought you were OP.
If you were to drop the RWD requirement that'd really open up your options. Are you a handy DIY person when it comes to cars? I wouldn't recommend any used Euro car to anyone who isn't going to be willing to dig around forums and track down godo parts sources, etc.
Luis Green
Then get a slightly older ES and enjoy more luxury than a random Camry. If you can't afford that then a random manual Focus ST or Fiesta ST works too because they depreciate aggressively.
If you're mechanically inclined and you do your homework there is literally nothing wrong with getting an E46 3 series.
Isaiah Smith
Get a Ford ranger.
Nolan Robinson
I can dig around forums, but haven't done many repairs. My Dad is handy though. That's likely what I'll get. I'm just exploring all my options. Do Rangers have timing chains or belts?
Daniel Adams
OP here, also was honestly thinking of an E46 or cheap bimmer but the insane mileage (prefer ≤40,000 miles) on them and the risk factor of buying through eBay motors/auction sites is enough to stirr my parents away from considering them in the first place
Is there any other way I can get a cheap as fuck BMW with an aux and decent sound system for ≤$19,000?
Asher Carter
>elantra over civic You're retarded beyond comprehension. In what world is elantra ever good?? Even the new ones drive like garbage, even reliability is an issue
Andrew Martin
No. I know you're a girl and all and the badge is tempting, but DO NOT buy a used BMW if you're on a student budget, have no time and no place to work on it.
Find a used Lexus IS250/350 or ES350 if you must have the badge.
Jordan Reed
back to
William Lee
Who the fuck cares, BMW is not all that prestigious.
If you don't have a job outside of school learn to wrench on your car. It's not glamorous and it's certainly not all that enjoyable but it's an important skill that everybody should learn.
If your school is halfway decent it will have a Formula SAE chapter. Join it and borrow their tools/workspace and contribute in some way to make up for it, whether it's putting in work to help them or paying them for their tools and time.
Ethan James
someone had to say it. thanks br/o/. wish more people on this forum knew enough about car audio and general electronics to not let shit like that slide
Gabriel Cooper
Wtf do u mean badge
Logan Nguyen
Yeah I don't think OP is going to do a single one of those things.
Adam Walker
Don't buy a boring car I regret buying something that I don't really like driving
Ryan Davis
I can understand not fixing your car on your own time if you have so much money that you don't give a flying fuck about paying for someone else to do it, but doing your own maintenance and repairs will pay off in the long run.
I can only assume that if OP in on Veeky Forums they're at least somewhat interested in cars.
Camden Mitchell
By the sound of it OP is a female that wants a 'cool' car and is otherwise quite oblivious to automobiles in general, and I wouldn't hold out much hope for her progressing to some kind of Veeky Forums enlightenment where she ends up spending weekends digging through her Bimmer's inevitable trouble codes.
I could be wrong, of course.
Grayson Williams
Lol, okay. That literally still shows that Toyota is far more reliable than Hyundai. So thanks for further proving my point, I guess.
Andrew Adams
But mine pointed out Hyundai and Kia's perceived reliability is a lie and that the Chevy's OP is looking at are also vastly more reliable.
Angel Fisher
>Freshman >Hyundai over Civic >Calls it a "jack" >Muh car needs good audio that's all I want
Holy shit user, don't worry about it. Whatever autotragic slushbox you get I'm sure you'll have it destroyed within the year.
Christian Reed
That's fair.
At that point a Lexus ES is probably the best option because it's least likely to be troublesome and at the end of the day it's literally just a Camry.
Jayden Peterson
>I can understand not fixing your car on your own time if you have so much money that you don't give a flying fuck about paying for someone else to do it,
If I hit the lottery I'd just buy a better shop. Fuck, I'd live in the right sort of shop. F1 shops are cleaner than my living room.
Juan Green
> whore is aware that she's only worth her hole
Show us your tits cunt
Dominic Murphy
But what if you made a few million dollars a year but in return your work week was at minimum 60 hours long with overtime up to 80 hours?
This is a reality for some rich people. They work ridiculous amounts and are paid well for it, but they have next to no life outside of work.
Nathan Torres
Gonna hijack this thread instead of making my own, Im a poorfag going into uni as well. I have $1500 for a used pile of shit, Whats the best gas mileage and reliability I can get my hands on? I was thinking of going with a 96-98 corolla aiming for around the 200,000 km mark. Is that my best option?
Landon Moore
>Is that my best option? No. The sticky is right here. Cars to look for: Geo/Chevrolet Metro Geo/Chevrolet Prizm Dodge/Plymouth Neon Chevrolet Cavalier Pontiac Sunfire Toyota Tercel and everything else mentioned in passing: Civic, Accord, CRV, Corolla, Camry, Rav4, Volvos, Vrown Vic, Grand Marquis, Sentra, CRX, Focus, and Taurus
Jaxson Rivera
You named a spread of two generations of Corolla, but yes you nailed it.
93-97 Corolla and Prizm are great, watch for oil use.
98-02 are also equally solid but start to feel a bit cost cut (irrelevant from the perspective of someone who just needs a damn car). Also susceptible to oil burning but otherwise just tanks.
Charles Wright
Sorry Im crossboarding, didnt even check the sticky like a fukin newfag. Thanks
Yea I have heard of corollas getting to almost 600k miles fine so I thought that would be a good place to start. How expensive would it be to fix the oil burning problem? I fully expect that a car for $1500 is going to have problems in the near future but I would like to know what kind of cost im getting into.
Justin Hall
A replacement of rings, ie probably more money than would be logical to put into it. Best bet is to buy one where the issue isn't too bad and to keep an eye on oil level.
Jack Cruz
Would it be worth it if I did the labor myself or with one of my home "mechanic" buddies? Also is there an easy way to check for the oil problem when I go to buy from someone?
Nicholas Hernandez
Piston rings are expensive to replace. The pistons rings themselves aren't expensive. It's all the labor to get to them. If you replace the piston rings, you may as well rebuild the entire engine since the pistons themselves have to be removed to replace it
Daniel Howard
I see, so not an easy fix for sure then. Is there a way to check if they are fucked/dying before a buy?
Eli Green
Ask the owner about oil consumption for starters, check for a very sooty exhaust and even soot above the exhaust tip on the rear bumper. If there's a big (5qt) oil jug in the trunk, that might tip you off as well. Just watching for blue smoke when you follow behind the car when it accelerates would also tip off to serious consumption.
My brother actually redid the rings and valve seals on his friend's 240k '96 Prizm with a 4AFE, the guy just really wanted it done I guess. Cut consumption to almost nothing, owner is happily motoring along in it now. I forget what the total bill was, I do know that he cut him an incredible discount and/or in exchange for website-design work.