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Which Gramps car would be a good base for a sleeper?

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literally any old buick or boxy volvo

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Datsun 810

I like the lacrosse super but it's suffers from gm shittiness.

i would also like the answer to OP's question

>bulletproof inline 5, can be turbo'd without much trouble
>Quattro AWD bolts right on if you got a FWD version
>it's just a midsize Audi

98 buick regal gs. Damn thing is already a good sleeper.

240 hp with the supercharger is already decently quick and the 3800 is good for mods

easy

panther platform

Lexus GS300
Any Saab
SRT-4 Caliber or PT cruiser

This car without the ugly color would be good.

S600.
A tune and you're at 600hp. Bolt ons and you're at 650. New turbos and you're at 780.

I owned a '99.

It had a decent list of mods done: (some by the previous owner)
>1.90 rockers
>3.2 pulley
>CAI
>downpipe and catback
>eBay intercooler
>shift kit

It dynoed at 287whp, and the tranny exploded around 7k miles after I got it.

Mid 90s buock regal

Any Lexus with a 3.3 V6 or bigger.

3.3
3.5
4.3
4.6

Saab dentists car

anything with a buick 3800

Cressida is the only option what the fuck is wrong with you people

95 Ford Taurus SHO
>Yamaha built v6
>Can handle about 25psi of boost

Lincoln towncar with a coyote/5spd transplant and an lsd tossed into the rear. Can probably just swap a bunch of p71 vic parts over for minor brake and suspension improvements

>leaving out 4.0

get the fuck out and never return

shameful display

The answer is Volvo 240

I agree only because the old IS's sure as fuck ain't sleepers
Everybody and their kid knows they have a 2JZ

All those Lexus 1UZ buckets though, goddamn.

Too bad every other inch of the car is trash and will be falling to bits no matter how well kept these days.

98-02 olds intrigue isn't too bad. Decently fast and has 215hp. Also turns like a fucking champ

Buick Park Avenue ultra, swap a 5 speed in it.
>supercharged 3800
>potential oozing off the car

Citroen C5.
One of the most boring cars imaginable, but has a 208hp V6
Can be found for under 1000 euros.

>all that power and money and it's still slower than some hickboy's 350 powered turd gen with nitrous

>engine can handle the boost
>transmission will nope the fuck out of there as soon as you pass 300whp

Its already a sleeper

What is a boring car that is unimaginable?

Aren't North star derived engines a mess though

But it's faster than everything else posted. Hickboy 350's take a lot of work to make 650 crank.

Tfw my best friend is selling me his door $500 tomorrow ('99 Regal LS 90k mi)

I'm buying it out of necessity, but good to know it's not all bad. Going from a convertible Cav z24 to this feels like trading for a boat but at least it's rwd.

Old***

Fug

What about a urs4 or urs6? I5 turbo, Quattro, and a manual transmission, and capable of huge power after building the bottom end. The rods are only good to about 400whp tops, but everything else is good till at least 700. The aftermarket is surprisingly good for them too, although finding some OEM parts is rough sometimes.

They are fwd not rwd

I've never seen a car with such an ugly ass

>but at least it's rwd.
no it isn't. They're FWD.

with a built l28et swapped in with 5 speed?

No they don't. You can do that on a wet nitrous setup EASILY

Auroras are pretty good, too, the shrunken Northstar isn't bad at all (and the Intrigue V6 is the same engine with two cylinders lopped off).

Nah the thing is, a turd gen doesn't weigh 5,000lbs so it doesn't need 650bhp to beat a 600bhp S class. It weighs over a 1,000lbs less so it only needs 500bhp to beat a 600bhp S class, even a 305 can do 500bhp with the right bolt ons: youtube.com/watch?v=AScojLj139A

I own C5. Suspension will not cope with bigger amounts of power