Honda NSX

NSX was done in the rain Supra in the dry.

Chicken in front of Russian flag asking for evidence

fastestlaps.com/tracks/laguna-seca-post-1988

If you use the link and click on the NSX's time it was supposedly done by Road and Track but i can't confirm beyond that. The "w" means "wet".

Thank

>american drivers

Yeah that was a cool race only thing i didn't think was fair was the hp gap between the cars but they were really close in lap times

Steve Millen is a New Zealander. The Supra driver was Japanese.

if the driver aint jap (or senna) it dont count

depends on the track

the nsx simple its the only one on that list ment to go fast the others have to be modded to

Which are faster tighter/technical tracks? Which are faster on high speed tracks?

check for yourself on fastestlaps.com :^)

stupid.

>another quality fastestlaps.com post

Stock it was probably the NSX or FD. 276HP regulation or not none of the engines exceeded around 330 horsepower stock so lightweight and well-balanced was the name of the game.

With tuning the R34 GT-R was probably the fastest. AWD means you can control the power and the R34's AWD is better than what was in the 3000GT VR4. Nissan's ECU protections are shit-tier so it wasn't hard for tuners to reverse engineer and map for their own mods and the weight distribution was ok at around 55/45. The 3000GT was 58/42, had FWD-biased AWD, and not a lot of tuners for the 6G72.

The only way to make RWD viable with big power is to really get serious about making downforce like a Viper. Otherwise AWD makes more sense.

Rx7 set the fastest lap time of all the Japanese cars at Tsukuba
Not even the highest trim model either..

RX7=GTR>Supra>NSX>S2000>3000GT

>He actually believes this.

>The 3000GT ... had FWD-biased AWD
This is false. The VR4 is 50/50 under normal circumstances and it has a viscous center lsd that can send ~80% of torque to the front or rear. It's not high tech like ATTESA but it's still a performance AWD system.

get yourself another reaction maymay you shit-eating dog.

Or you could defend your choice, instead of attacking the poster.

I'm not the guy you replied to, just getting annoyed by your facebook-tier reaction maymays.

Doesn't make the poster any less retarded for thinking the NSX is even remotely the best out of the group based on bullshit like "it's meant to go fast" which is what all the fucking cars listed were meant to do.

Also fucking sue me, I don't have a whole lot of reaction images to chose from anymore.

>Fastest on a technical track: RX7
>Fastest on a technical track, with shorter straights and need for more constant throttle work: NSX
>Fastest on a track with longer straights, but a lot of mid speed corners: GTR or GTO
>Fastest on a track with long stretches and high speed corners: Supra

Assuming equal drivers and all cars are 100% stock.

These are just my thoughts. Anyone agree? Disagree?

I'm not the guy anyone replied to either. That was my first post this thread.

Also, part of me wants to swap the NSX and RX7.

here have this one user its my fav

Stay mad gm cucks

Really? I thought the FWD variant pretty much implied that it was some kind of Haldex style system.

>5 second difference between the fastest and slowest cars
>a close gap on tsukuba

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In stock form?

Here is a best motoring shootout comparing all the fastest 90's Japanese sports cars in their stock forms, on the street and track:

youtube.com/watch?v=sAoQEBO4Fxs

The Supra is shit in stock form, and would always get last place in the races at Tsukuba, so they rarely used it. Same with the VR-4.

In stock form, value for money was none of those, it was (and still is) the Evo V&VI. Same performance as the GT-R, but for less than half the price.

>no 300ZX
Why does no one ever mention the most fly ass one of them all.

The 300zx is more of a grand tourer than a pure sports car. They were not made to turn or brake as well as an NSX, GT-R, STi, Evo, RX-7, etc...

its ugly and pigfat
so is the Supra but muh FnF

Just a reminder the NSX was overrated as fuck.

>$40k BMW that seats four and has 240hp/3200lbs faster than $90k 290hp/3100lbs MR Sports Car

Why they put a Honda prelude in the mix?

to show off what a car that costs half of the other shit can do

>BMW used to be based
>now they can't do anything right

It makes me sad

Havent you seen initial d, fgt?
86 wins

>le Supra is bad meme

youtu.be/z8xVMQ2iXQs
Suzuki Alto Works/Thread

The Supra is also a GT car, though.

>implying it's good

The Evo is fast stock but with a 2L engine it has very little potential for power upgrades like the GT-R.

>implying it's bad

>implying GT has ever actually meant anything

Even assuming that it does, then everyone else should be more ashamed that such "inferior" "GT" cars are competing so well with, and even beating, these "pure" "sports" cars.

>Evo has very little potential
You must be the dumbest motherfucker on Veeky Forums.

>My power band starts at 5000 RPM

Are we really going to debate whether you want 500 horsepower with a 2L I4 or a 3L I6? The engine displacement alone limits what is feasible for the Evo. There's a big aftermarket and a lot you can do but realistically you can't exceed about 350 horsepower before you give up driveability. For a 2JZ-GTE 550 horsepower is no big deal. For an RB26 500 horsepower is fine with stock displacement.

In 1.6 (or even 2.0) class.

Shit on rotor all you want, it made the FD possible.
>implying any euro sportcar isn't even more costly to maintain

NSX is my least favorite of the big 4, but that is some bullshit. 10 seconds? nah nigga.

youtube.com/watch?v=L2HAeZM8ZG0

this is pretty great. NSX is missing in action, but the Sky, Sup and RX7 are there, along with an S15. also it shows that siblings hate each other.

>turbo rotary
>saying euro cars are unreliable

we might have plastic cooling systems but you have to pull the engine every 50k if your car doesn't decide to spontaneously combust

Nope. Nothing like Haldex existed back in '92. This old site goes into detail about the VR4's AWD system: stealth316.com/2-awd.htm

anyone know what wheels?

You should take a look at the fastest Time Attack cars in the world

>Time Attack for track use only == street use
ok

The 3000GT was pretty much a fucking monster. Specially the MR variant. Americlaps cant say it's true because they got the comfy version and not the performance version.

Still the racing variant mighty spec v couldnt handle against it.

But then again... 90% of the board is full of cucks that think the 3000GT is a DSM and FWD biased because that's how much they care to know about cars.

I drive a 300ZX BTW so roast me faggots.

>Americlaps cant say it's true because they got the comfy version and not the performance version.
The cushy USDM VR4 is still an incredible platform for mods, though. And you don't have to pay the Supra tax.

I want one to convert to RWD

>FWD based because of the FWD variant

Ayyy lmao check my FWD bias

BTW little secret moit, the FWD was only made for the americunt market.

>transverse mounted engine
>not fwd biased

>you
>not retarded

See the link in

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One of the few cases where I think fixed lights version looks better.

Looks like the Enki Tarmac.

>tfw

GT-R would be right there with the Supra on long straights and high speed corners as well

For the most part, yes. I'm not sure how the ATTESA works, but with most AWD, they lose on rolling power runs because they have to put all of their power to 4 wheels instead of just 2.

Or is this not how things work?

>Day 43, I have gained the nips trust
>They still do know realize I am a krout

The Skyline GT-R's ATTESA uses a transfer case and a wet multiplate clutch to engage the driveshaft headed to the front wheels. Maximum lock of the transfer case means that the torque is sent equally to both front and rear wheels.

The default mode for the clutch is completely unlocked. The GT-R will be completely RWD minus some slight slip from the inability to completely disengage the clutchpacks. The torque split is approximately 5/95 or 2/98.

The system determines how much torque to send to the front wheels as a function of the lateral g and speed differential between the rear and front wheels. High lateral g will keep the FWD engagement from kicking in with around 30/70 max split at full lateral g load regardless of the speed differential.

On the flip side, if you have no lateral g and the speed differential is high, the FWD rapidly locks up to pull you out. With the Skyline GT-R you're supposed to go hard on the throttle once you're at the apex. You don't want to have severe oversteer but you definitely want the back tires to get a bit loose so the AWD will kick in and pull you out of the corner. If you lose the back tires completely though you HAVE to stay on the throttle so the transfercase can work and send power to the front wheels to pull you out of the slide. If you let off the throttle you're back to RWD in essence as no torque goes to the front wheels.

Notice how this entire post details the system when there is a front-rear speed differential, which means that the system won't engage if you're doing highway pulls that aren't breaking the rear tires loose. The GT-R is functionally RWD unless you lose traction.

Well that explains quite a lot. The ATTESA system sure does sound quite impressive, I must admit.

So I guess you're right, the Supra and the GTR would be right there with each other.

>> My power band starts at 5000rpm
Fukin lol