/pdg/ - Payday 2 and Payday: The Heist General

Old Men Edition

Previous >Workshop Manual
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>Upcoming Payday 2 Tournaments:
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>Extremely Frankistic Guide on the Mechanics of PAYDAY 2:
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=267214370

>Skill/Weapon Stat Calculator:
pd2weapons.com/

>Breakpoint calculator
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ucnX2Hm4QlkyKiQkSJzdC_PS9Pc8dBJt3cxYyI3Pkgk/

>Old Skilltree Guide:
i.imgur.com/nUXjB3J.png

>Perk Deck Guide (slightly out of date):
i.imgur.com/hFYr1Io.jpg

>Stat Ranking and Breakpoints (extremely fucking out of date we only keep this here for console plebs):
i.imgur.com/TY14uav.png

>Weapon/Armor/Damage/Pickup Spreadsheets (not up to date):
pastebin.com/dSyuTzdt

>Weapon Skin Checklist (totally up to date):
pastebin.com/jivyLi3A

>Big Oil Engine Calculators:
// NOTE: Nobody cares what the pressure gauges say if they're using the calculator
payday2skills.ru/bigoil.html
albertkung.com/bigoil/

>PAYDAY Wiki:
payday.wikia.com/wiki/PAYDAY_2

>Latest Updates Here:
steamcommunity.com/app/218620

>Steam Group full of shitters:
steamcommunity.com/groups/itfeelslikesomethingsintheair

>Mods and Lua:
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>Weapon skin previews
pd2stash.com/

>Daily Dose
fuldans.se/?v=bawawkvbhb
youtube.com/watch?v=2VbhCe21nhc
youtube.com/watch?v=jHEkCM3fTrc

Other urls found in this thread:

dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/22003369/Deckstravaganza_v4.1.zip
dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/22003369/Deckstravaganza_v4.2.zip
dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/22003369/Deckstravaganza_v4.3.zip
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

first for animation tools when

70 dodge

SHOTGUNS OUT-CLASS LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE WEAPON IN THE GAME

Hey pdg. What skills are essential to your builds?

>essential skills
they're called core skills you fucking newfag
>resillence aced
>underdog aced
>run & cover & parkour
>second wind
>9 lives aced
>forced friendship
>transporter
These are all skills that will probably will help with any (loud) builds you try

through i'm enough of a madman to drop most of them for more fun stuff

Are shotguns the meta again?

Have we come full circle?

The meta right now is any weapon type as long as you got the skills for it actually.
Since bows were nerfed and head damage was buffed for od anything functions well.

and china puff secondary.

Old men, running the world

Has the Halloween heist even started yet?
because I have to catch a plane in like 2 hours because my dad decided that he would be having his wedding in fucking Thailand or some shit and I would like to be able to play it at least once before its gone

Hello heisters! Hope you enjoyed your spooky holiday!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- High Times (voff_2)
- I WIll Walk Faceless Among Men (kosugi_4)

And today's Safehouse Daily is:
- Saw Right Through You (daily_gears)
Brought to you by Wolf.

Keep those helmets flying! ;)

It doesn't start until Thursday so you should be fine

Thursday... Or well, Friday if you're in Thailand.

>The fucking saw job again

Do they even have a side job for every fucking heister?

well unless the event stays for two weeks I will miss it.
I live with my grandparents and they decided to make it double as their annual holiday tip to somewhere after the wedding so I am stuck in a shithole Asian country that I didn't even want to go to in the first place

The new heist will be permanent, the only thing you might miss out on is the Safe House Nightmare.

>The new heist will be permanent
When was that confirmed?

>old man
>32

keep in mind op is 10

underdog is useful but not necessary
second wind doesn't work with anarchist but for everything else it's definitely necessary
9 lives is only useful for OD
forced friendship is skippable
everything else is correct

>aced underdog
Kek

>being that autistic about terminology

whats the meta for very hard?

any weapon that deals damage

Bernetti 9 for ammo efficiency

Is there any way to model swap the Raven into the Predator12g? The SPAS is my favorite gun but there's no fucking reason to use it on anything past Overkill.

>playing DW Election Day bank
>all three other players get downed by the c4

>head damage was buffed for od
again? or just the 1.5x buff from not-crimefest day 3

dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/22003369/Deckstravaganza_v4.1.zip

beta test this shit for me

say at leats what you changed

you already posted it before though

yes

I think it's like 2x now or something.

weapon butt

your butt, user ;)

It's best used for things that are "very hard" if you know what I mean

I use the steakout shotgun on DW

Me too
I like it

>no borderless window
What year is it?

Why does heavier armor give more concealment? That doesn't make any sense. So if I use low blow that means I want more armor?

yes im new

Er I mean lighter armor gives a higher concealment rating. And for low blow it's for ever 3 points under 35. Am I reading this wrong?

Are you really askong why a suit or a vest has more concealment than a giga nigga armor commando suit

4.1 was a bugfix for not being able to reopen the main menu after saving custom deck

4.2 is another fix for the same bug except when trying to exit the custom deck main menu (when you're choosing the card to edit)
dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/22003369/Deckstravaganza_v4.2.zip

How exactly does this work can I just mix and match any cards I want or do I have to take cards 1-9 like if I wanted could I just take card 7 from every deck or would I have to do like for example card 1-3 from grinder card 4 from anarchist card 5-7 from crew chief and card 8-9 from sociopath. Do the cards in each slot have to match the slot from the original deck or can you just place any card anywhere

Nah I'm asking why a giga nigga suit has more concealment.

It's golf rules you jabroni

Like shouldn't low blow require you to wear LESS armor?

Yes

That's exactly how it works

You need to get the detection rating down to 5 (technically 4) to actually utilize it properly

it does you ding dong

detection =/= concealment

what is the most overpowered/useful perk deck/weapon right now, and what the fuck is dodge and how does it work

any 9 cards from any deck in any order barring some prerequisites

Some perk sets are serial elements in a global table and I didn't want to redo how those perks work intrinsically.
One example is the Rogue deck's dodge bonuses. According to their descriptions, Rogue 1 gives "10%" dodge chance, Rogue 5 and 7 each give "an additional 15%" dodge chance.
If you only get the Rogue 1 upgrades (legitimately or not), you get only 10% as expected. However, if you get only the upgrades from Rogue 5 (illegitimately, obv.) you don't get 15%; you actually get 25% as if you had legitimately gotten the Rogue 1 upgrade.

The other type of prerequisite are feature-enhancing perks. The example I used last thread is Maniac. Maniac 3 allows you share the Hysteria (damage reduction) effect with your teammates but that would either do nothing or do something unintended if you don't have Maniac 1 (Hysteria stacks for yourself).
Maniac 7 changes it so you get 1 damage reduction for every 25 Hysteria stacks instead of every 30 Hysteria stacks. You still need to have Maniac 1 to get Maniac 7 but the latter's effect is not directly related to the effects of Maniac 3 so you can get either one independently or both of them as you see fit.

I personally use:
Grinder 1, 2, 3
Muscle 5, 9
Anarchist 3, 5
Armorer 7
Sociopath 3

ICTV Anarchist with Frenzerker M308

dodge is a meme and it works badly

Dodge is a chance to not take damage when attack(s) hit you. The higher your dodge chance, the less likely you are to take damage from attacks in the long run.

The actual damage mitigation is very slightly higher than the listed value because the game operates on small but discrete timesteps. From what I understand, if you successfully dodge the first attack in a polling cycle, you will also dodge all subsequent attacks in that cycle.

You can increase your dodge chance by wearing (generally) lighter armor, equipping a perk deck with dodge bonuses, or selecting and meeting requirements for certain skills in the Ghost's Artful Dodger tree.

But the tooltip says concealment. Sneaky bastard uses detection rate. I'm so confused

Detection rate/Detection risk is displayed in the circular blue and red meter you see in the Inventory and Armor selection screens.
Its value is determined by a function of the sum of your equipments' Concealment values.

(cont.)
Using equipment with high concealment values gives you a lower detection rate.
Low detection rate in turn provides more benefit if you have either the Sneaky Bastard or Low Blow skills

If you didn't already know: high concealment (which means the same thing as low detection rate) also makes it harder for you to get detected by civilians and guards during stealth mode

I'd pay money if someone can mod shurikens/knives into cloakers

extra points if they're stuck in the t-pose

I'd pay money for a female cloacker mod

>Dominatrix Cloakers beating Clover into submission

I'll double that

59th for Sydney being the best thing that happened to this game in months.

headshot multiplier for Mayhem, DW, and OD is still 1.5x

Okay, thank you. Also what does this stat mean? And so low blow (aced) gives you 3% crit for every point of detection under 35?

is that the LBV

the what

Light ballistic vest

I think it was the standard ballistic at the time.

wtf why does sydney look like an anime

>spent half an hour soloing golden grin for the trophy
>didn't get it
Let me fucking guess, melee and/or throwables disqualify it

Daily reminder it's for your own good if the halloween event was delayed this much.

the stat you circled is your currently equipped armor's contribution to your combined concealment.

the red and blue circle shows your current detection rate as a big red 75

you currently get 0% dodge with sneaky bastard and 0% critical damage with low blow (if you have those skills equipped)

whos ready for more spreadsheet autism

Ohh, that makes sense. Thank you, user.

if you put 2 of the same card in the same deck and try to remove one of them the game says they're prerequisites for eachother.
also if they're prerequisites for other cards removing just 1 will remove all of them

add a custom deck reset button

of fucking course it does are you mentally handicapped

what did you expect when it clearly says ONLY silenced pistols?

>be yesterday
>cooking 25 bags of meth on DW with a fucking pug
>on the 20th bag
>lost connection to host
HOLY FUCK CUNT SHIT ASS FUCK GODDAMMIT

>stealthed bank heist
>put it on public
>non infamy joins
>slaughters every civ
why

>going for 25 bags on Cook Off
>not hosting

This is the future you chose.

dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/22003369/Deckstravaganza_v4.3.zip
edited on iPhone VNC Apple App Store App while lying in bed
very possibly broken

A reminder that sydney is the worst, and isn't really Australian

>it's a 'pubs want to stealth FF day 2' episode

Might aswell just wait for a proper edit then

>ff2 stealth
>hard
gold heist tier

>Episode meme
Kill yourself

................meanwhile in Overwatch people are complaining that their event ended too soon.

Who the fuck cares about Halloween anyway? Its a "neat" holiday, but I mean once you stop trick-or-treeting there is no reason to give much of a shit about it. You're seriously acting like they've gravely betrayed you or something.

Get the fuck over yourself, the fact that they're even still working on this game at all is fucking astounding. Most devs move on to a new game after the first few months of a release. Stop being an ungrateful piece of shit.

>removing stunning features is a feature,

Really makes you think, to be honest.

Mr. Sturr, I'm FBI.

Who /finallyFreeFromTheShekeling/ after Halloween here?

I 100%ed the entire fucking game (except for the Robbedacop statue because FUCK getting that), and can't wait to uninstall this shitty game from my PC and turn my back on the heistan lyf.

How many hours you have in the game?

>pic related
>inb4 cheated
Entirely legit, I'm not a shitter and a fast learner.

nth for anime

Fun fact:
With GIT GUD you can use any weapon on any difficulty!

Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- Target Practice: Assault Rifle (assault_rifle_100_kills)
- Target Practice: Shotgun (shotgun_100_kills)

And today's Safehouse Daily is:
- Rattle My Bones (daily_snake)
Brought to you by Sydney.

Keep those helmets flying! ;)

Fuck you this game is rated E for everyone

not after i'm done with it :^)

awoo is not for fugs wtf

...

Why am I not getting my safe for the week

DELETE THIS

If your 1 week timer is really off, try pubsurfing.

The game just might not be calling the item server for some reason because its internal timer is wrong. If some pub gets it while you don't, I don't know what's wrong.

s-sauce?