/wowsg/ - World of Warships Admiral

What's the verdict on the Belfast? Is it just a better Atlanta?

Their current incarnation feels as fragile as DDs when they still had citadels. Spamming HE all game is boring as fuck, and you can't really afford to get into AP duels with other cruisers because it raises your risk of getting deleted from "lucky citadel" to "shell connects with your ship".

Once battleships get speedy at higher tiers I feel there's little reward to playing cruisers.

>tfw a friendly DD smokes you after the moves in on the point you just helped cap

>Once battleships get speedy at higher tiers I feel there's little reward to playing cruisers.

This, basically. Don't play cruisers past about tier 5. You're exactly as fragile as a destroyer (ie stray shots hurt, connecting volley deletes), but without the concealment and speed. Until WG does something to make BBs not instantly delete cruisers, you're really better off playing a battleship of some flavour.

I like tier 5 because the classes still kinda work. DDs do their thing in a variety of flavors, carriers are still around (although tier 3 and 4 AA is probably too weak on most ships), and many cruisers can still kite battleships or at least avoid ridiculous damage as long as they don't show their sides.

Ships are still different enough to have distinct roles. Konig shits on Kongo, Kongo bullies cruisers, and cruisers burn down Konig.

what's so good about flat arcs

closer to the heart

easier to hit with

Easier to hit with. On the USN destroyers and late-tier cruisers especially, you need to zoom out your gunsight to actually get any use out of your target markers.

>Try to grind Mogami
>WG gave every player 250 premium repairs

Th-thanks...

BALANS

Tiger when.

If Atago is my shipfu will I like the Myoko

Well, these should last me a while.

yes they're pretty similar
just without heal and better MM, and worse turning turrets
very comfy bote

>if I like a fat tittied whore, will I like a hungry wolf

gee

YOU TAKE THAT BACK CUNT

Thank you famalama

This only really applies to cruisers from tier 7-9, and then not exclusively since the Atago and Kutuzov are both conveniently amazing.

Tier 10 is just a massive escalation in the strength of cruisers. Zao, DM, Moskva are all wickedly strong compared to their tier 9 counterparts. This isn't to say don't get deleted if you misplay them, but they are definitely on par with the best battleships and destroyers at T10.

If you're going to play cruisers, go all the way.

TITTY MONSTER

mfw #10 aggregate and #5 solo, top for QTest, Zao, Commerce raider twins, and Atlanta.

I have 3 skills on my VMF DD captain right now, should I get AFT next or get EM? I heard traverse time can be an issue on the Gnevny which i just got, what about the ones further on?

no

No. Myoko is like Atago's ugly, retarded little sister. The firing arcs you're used to on Atago are cut by tens of degrees on Myoko, and her turret traverse is fucking GLACIAL. She also doesn't have the forward facing torp tubes so they're only half as useful.

>Tier 10 cruisers are great
>but getting to them is suffering
no thanks

Where did she get the milk?

who's her supplier?

oy vey

How is everyone coming on their Takao mission?

This desu, I can understand people calling the Ibuki or Baltimore or Hipper underwhelming, and the CAs there are kind of meh, but T10 is a whole different story.
It's what I've never really understood about people calling high tier CAs useless, like sure they're garbage if you're awful at cruisers but if you have any idea of what you're doing (and you should by that point) T10 CAs can be stupidly good, and probably the most fun I've found so far in T10.

With the force of a thousand suns

A strong ship that can do great things with its consumables. It does have counters though: any CA or a quick BB rushing its smoke.

Pretty much everyone does better in Belfast than in their other T7 cruisers. That should tell you something.

Without CE you simply can't play Myoko's concealment in the same way as you can with Atago's. The poor turret traverse is very frustrating too.

The fixed amounts of doubloons are all better value, on EU at least.

Soviet and Japanese grinds aren't even that bad, neither is the British one despite what people will tell you.

Just don't do the things that you see cruisers do when you delete them.

>The two torpedoes that would have killed him hit the terrain he was moving over

this game is a fucking joke

>tfw you don't get to compete to be the best /wowsg/ at your favorite botes because you're a dirty reroll

desu i stopped at cleveland, but i've got an atlanta and it's quite fun to shit all over the rare skycancer who's stupid enough to fly near me

gimme a point by point senpai, how do you get the most out of your non sealclubbing cruisers? i've been keeping my atlanta close to straggler battleships and trying to hug terrain/islands to sneeki breeki.

>le deeprunning torpedo
IS HISTORICAL AND ACCURATES
"Torpedo is fine, no problems with exploders or erratic runs, also captain error" t. us bureau of ordinance

>top for QTest
I hate you so much.
One day I'll claim this title myself!

One can only wonder...

>not pictured: 500 lb bombs

WAIT I didn't even see the THIRD torpedo to the right that PASSED the ship close to the fucking terrain

WHAT THE FUCK DID THOSE TWO TORPEDOES HIT

Truly, a mystery for the ages.

>THIRD

RIP [THIRD]

>gimme a point by point senpai, how do you get the most out of your non sealclubbing cruisers?

>DM

>find a rock near a cap
>hug it far enough back that DD's can't rush you with torps
>ideally close enough to radar the whole cap
>bow on so that you present a small target to BBs
>make sure you can't get shot from across the map
>slow push the cap
>execute DDs with radar
>get triple fire rolling on any BB that you can get a shot on
>load AP for any retarded nigger that shows broadside and roll in citadels

>Moskva

>harass with HE at max range
>if you're going to force a fight, stay bow on
>use your mobility to push radar and hydro into DDs and contest cap zones
>HE for angled ships
>AP for broadside

No experience with the Zao or Hipper, but Moskva and DM are similar in the sense that they both really emphasize bow-on play. DM has much higher damage output, Moskva has railguns. In both cases, if people push into you, you need to reverse out and play for RNG. Be hyper aware of being broadside to people- neither ship needs the rear turret to get great damage numbers.

>Over Pen more than I Pen in Bismarck
What am I doing wrong?

aim at waterline

;_;7

Mostly about abusing the spotting mechanics, your ability to present a small profile, and decent maneuverability. Atlanta is kind of a weird one because of her lack of range, both actual and effective range.
You can usually pick your battles decently well so long as you're not charging forward and getting spotted first, you can hopefully use your other teammates as fodder. Pubbies will usually shoot at the first target that pops up, so don't be that obviously, but also at the target that's going to give them the most citpens, so always keeping your ship angled and moving(the armor might not always bounce stuff but it makes you a lot harder to hit, hopefully harder to hit than someone else around you), and making sure to be watching out for the most dangerous targets and keeping track of when they're firing. If you're keeping decent range you do have time to try to evade a surprising amount of fire (which is also why I've never been big on the US cruisers, I'm too crap at hitting with their shells at range and their range feels kind of limiting to me in general). The thing about cruisers is that you'll generally have the tools to deal with most situations, it's just about knowing how to make the best use of what you have, against DDs and other cruisers your armor can be really useful, against BBs you can dodge a lot of their fire, you can use your stealth to pop up in positions that are the best for you, sometimes you just have to run away and try not to get hit/spotted. Survival seems to be the thing most people have trouble with when it comes to cruisers, and if you get that down they can be a pretty fun class.

Not if I get it first. :^)

Someone on the forums doesn't understand why our Heroic Battle Adviser has his own mission. Which Under Siege ship should I reply with to show him the light?

Well, we don't have the Missouri, so Iowa would be next on the list.

Thanks senpai

Is it good?

eu.wargaming.net/shop/wows/specials/3978/

>ship
I meant 'clip'

For lazy people its the König Albert

is it basically a Imp but a bit shitter?

>It had to be base xp
I hate this.

You can try the knife fight scene.

>eu.wargaming.net/shop/wows/specials/3978/
save the shekels and just get a nassau senpai, they're real comfy

Just remember, deletions happen sometimes, but you can do an awful lot to avoid them becoming a regular occurrence which is what it's all about. I've never found them to be as common as the thread seems to make them out to be.
Also a disclaimer, I've mostly played the Japs and Krauts with a little bit of the Russians, so that's what I'm going off, stuff like the Brits and a few individual ships could be a bit different.

its a Nassau but tier 3 you retard

fair enough

>Looking at New Orleans stats on warships.today
>Set time frame to past 2 weeks
>Min battles 100
>There's one player
>Managed 115 battles
>Average 9,999 dmg

I wish more people reported actual fucking bots.

Did you mean Kaiser? Nassau's tier 3, Satsuma style turret layout with the double wing turrets. Kaiser's tier 4 with the cross-firing meme turrets which are kinda shit just like historical

Yeah, that doesn't help. I'm beginning to fucking hate this shit. Every shot just over pens when it should pen or even get citadel. Getting tilted as fuck and want to throw my computer through a wall.

>Yeah, that doesn't help.

Either you aren't doing it, or you're shooting AP at DDs. Overpenetrations are almost always shells that go through superstructure or the front or rear of the ship- you are aiming too high, or leading too much or too little.

Shoot LITERALLY at the waterline so your shells land beneath the funnel. At close range you can even shoot below the waterline.

Do it. See if you overpen that too.

Speaking of overpenetration, what's that metal-squealing noise I sometimes hear when I hit? And what's the *whing* noise I sometimes hear when I get hit?

but not the Hindenburg?

Ricochets or spalling I'd guess.

look at armor models and learn the citadel locations for ships you will be facing.

savage

...

Not him but it seems like the Hind isn't outright bad, but it does kind of lack anything particularly amazing that makes it stand out from the other T10s.
It's not as tanky as the Moskva, or even the DM, it doesn't have the same kind of short range damage that the DM does, it doesn't have the amazing HE or stealth of the Zao, it's decent with AP but so is the Moskva and even then that's only situational, it doesn't get radar, it doesn't have vastly better AA or anything.
Also the Roon is actually a pretty good ship so it's not even like an amazing upgrade. Maybe another user can correct me because I only have limited experience with it, but it just seems like there's not much reason to pick it over something else.

>It's not as tanky as the Moskva, or even the DM
What a load of bullshit. DM doesnt have a shred of "tankiness" to it. Hinden does.

I can't do shit in the free ARP cruisers. I do better in the bloody Pensacola. Should I just take it as a sign that the INJ CA line isn't for me?

Yes

Except when it's bow-on, and is then far tougher than the Hind.

"no"

Probably

>when you free XP the entire Bong CL tech line because the Queen wills it and you're not a poorfag peasant

How do I play Bong CLs lads

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Smokeshit. Just smokeshit, all day.

Baltimore and DM have 27mm bow armor which is autobounce for the 38cm guns of Bismarck, Tirpitz and Gneisnau

>ship spinning in port waiting for a battle finish because I changed my mind and I did want to play my Farragut again
>You were complimented 3 times

I didn't even really do anything. Not sure how 3 people thought I did great.
>Team decides to blob up in the east then head south
>I spawned on the west so I figured I'd scout
>spotted by aircraft early and under invisifire so I retreat/chase a CV snipe and use DF
>sail towards the center, bother a Warspite & Yorck from smoke
>DF again with planes above my smoke
>sail along an island to meet the Yorck and Warspite on the other side
>sink Yorck, torps out against the Warspite, 3 hits, die to the Warspite as I'm dodging Leander torps trying to force him out of smoke

>you will never marry a qt fleet-type submarine and start a family

why even live senpai?

>Tiger when.
Don't have enough Kongo clones from the ARP events?

>Be top tier RN CL
>Shoot at bottom tier BB
>Literally cannot damage him unless he is completely broadside to me
man, bb sure have a hard life

>RN CL
>you get to spam guns
>but 6" AP only
yeah you're literally helpless against a BB unless you can shotgun. just fuck up other cruisers and zip zop zoobitybop away from anything bige

Fuck you, a Bismarck hit my cit when I had my bow pointed at it

Has the thread been scuttled or sunk?

Lisping to port.

just like the game desu

That artist and his dumb self insert clogging those sites makes me runreasonably annoyed